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So - was he Muslim?

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    Mike Gaskey
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    A family friend, who didn't want to be identified, told us Talovic's upbringing may have played a role. He was a Muslim-Bosnian, born in war-torn Bosnia. Talovic has lived in Utah for the past several years. He dropped out of high school in 2004.[^]

    Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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      A family friend, who didn't want to be identified, told us Talovic's upbringing may have played a role. He was a Muslim-Bosnian, born in war-torn Bosnia. Talovic has lived in Utah for the past several years. He dropped out of high school in 2004.[^]

      Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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      So if a Muslim commits a crime for which Fox news doesnt state a motive, it must be Jihad related and its because of those bloody lefties in the media that they wont publish the motive? Talk about damned if you do damned if you dont. And your solution is to carry a gun? Its no wonder people laugh at the paranoia in the US

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        So if a Muslim commits a crime for which Fox news doesnt state a motive, it must be Jihad related and its because of those bloody lefties in the media that they wont publish the motive? Talk about damned if you do damned if you dont. And your solution is to carry a gun? Its no wonder people laugh at the paranoia in the US

        System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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        Lost User
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        So if Josh Gray opens one of its mouths does that mean that people are going to listen to any of them ramble? Perhaps it types with its 13 fingers and types non-sense and then I vote 1 on its message.

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          So if a Muslim commits a crime for which Fox news doesnt state a motive, it must be Jihad related and its because of those bloody lefties in the media that they wont publish the motive? Talk about damned if you do damned if you dont. And your solution is to carry a gun? Its no wonder people laugh at the paranoia in the US

          System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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          Mike Gaskey
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          Josh Gray wrote:

          And your solution is to carry a gun?

          which happens to be the only reason why there were not more deaths in the mall terrorism incident. So, yes.

          Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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            Josh Gray wrote:

            And your solution is to carry a gun?

            which happens to be the only reason why there were not more deaths in the mall terrorism incident. So, yes.

            Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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            Mike Gaskey wrote:

            which happens to be the only reason why there were not more deaths in the mall terrorism incident.

            terrorism? Geez i could fart terrorism by your definition :) I thought a cop shot him not a private citizen?

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              Mike Gaskey wrote:

              which happens to be the only reason why there were not more deaths in the mall terrorism incident.

              terrorism? Geez i could fart terrorism by your definition :) I thought a cop shot him not a private citizen?

              System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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              Rob Graham
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              Josh Gray wrote:

              I thought a cop shot him not a private citizen?

              An off duty Cop who happened to be carrying his weapon...

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                Mike Gaskey wrote:

                which happens to be the only reason why there were not more deaths in the mall terrorism incident.

                terrorism? Geez i could fart terrorism by your definition :) I thought a cop shot him not a private citizen?

                System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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                Mike Gaskey
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                Josh Gray wrote:

                Geez i could fart terrorism by your definition

                as long as your stink kills 5, yep.

                Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                  Josh Gray wrote:

                  I thought a cop shot him not a private citizen?

                  An off duty Cop who happened to be carrying his weapon...

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                  Rob Graham wrote:

                  An off duty Cop who happened to be carrying his weapon...

                  So where did the shooter get his gun?

                  System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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                    So if Josh Gray opens one of its mouths does that mean that people are going to listen to any of them ramble? Perhaps it types with its 13 fingers and types non-sense and then I vote 1 on its message.

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                    David Wulff
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                    Ok, put the alcohol down and have another try at making a cohesive sentance.


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                      So if Josh Gray opens one of its mouths does that mean that people are going to listen to any of them ramble? Perhaps it types with its 13 fingers and types non-sense and then I vote 1 on its message.

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                      leckey 0
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                      That doesn't make sense.

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                        Rob Graham wrote:

                        An off duty Cop who happened to be carrying his weapon...

                        So where did the shooter get his gun?

                        System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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                        Rob Graham
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                        Which gun? Reports are he carried 3 or 4 weapons (including a shotgun) , all of which he purchased legally (since he was 18 and a legal resident with no criminal record).

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                          Ok, put the alcohol down and have another try at making a cohesive sentance.


                          Ðavid Wulff What kind of music should programmers listen to?
                          Join the Code Project Last.fm group | dwulff
                          I'm so gangsta I eat cereal without the milk

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                          David Wulff wrote:

                          Ok, put the alcohol down and have another try at making a cohesive sentance.

                          Giblula another sentace? Why? If abot is he then why is she?

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                            Josh Gray wrote:

                            Geez i could fart terrorism by your definition

                            as long as your stink kills 5, yep.

                            Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                            Mike Gaskey wrote:

                            as long as your stink kills 5, yep.

                            So if you kill five or more your a terrorist? To me the word terrorism means that someone is causing terror in order to advance their own cause.

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                              Which gun? Reports are he carried 3 or 4 weapons (including a shotgun) , all of which he purchased legally (since he was 18 and a legal resident with no criminal record).

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                              Rob Graham wrote:

                              all of which he purchased legally

                              Amazing

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                                Mike Gaskey wrote:

                                as long as your stink kills 5, yep.

                                So if you kill five or more your a terrorist? To me the word terrorism means that someone is causing terror in order to advance their own cause.

                                System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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                                Josh Gray wrote:

                                o me the word terrorism means that someone is causing terror in order to advance their own cause.

                                I think it sufficient that they cause terror. Randomly gunning down strangers in a public shopping center may not be as dramatic as blowing oneself to bits in the same setting, but it just as effectively terrified everyone there. And I have yet to see how any example of terrorism to date has advanced the terrorist's cause (that may be motive, but it is rarely if ever the result that the cause is advanced).

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                                  Rob Graham wrote:

                                  all of which he purchased legally

                                  Amazing

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                                  Rob Graham
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                                  Josh Gray wrote:

                                  Amazing

                                  Why so? Can't you purchase firearms legally in Australia? Even for sporting purposes (which were likely the reasons he gave when he signed for the weapons)?

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                                    Which gun? Reports are he carried 3 or 4 weapons (including a shotgun) , all of which he purchased legally (since he was 18 and a legal resident with no criminal record).

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                                    Rob Graham wrote:

                                    all of which he purchased legally

                                    If he had any pistols then he did not purchase them legally. You have to be 21 years or older to purchase a pistol.

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                                      Rob Graham wrote:

                                      all of which he purchased legally

                                      If he had any pistols then he did not purchase them legally. You have to be 21 years or older to purchase a pistol.

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                                      Rob Graham
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                                      You are correct. He had a .38 pistol and the ATF is investigating how he obtained that.

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                                        Josh Gray wrote:

                                        Amazing

                                        Why so? Can't you purchase firearms legally in Australia? Even for sporting purposes (which were likely the reasons he gave when he signed for the weapons)?

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                                        Rob Graham wrote:

                                        Why so?

                                        Well we dont grow up with the idea of firearms being common in our community and I find the general US attitude towrads guns very foreign.

                                        Rob Graham wrote:

                                        Can't you purchase firearms legally in Australia? Even for sporting purposes

                                        Yes and no. As far as I know you can have a shotgun (but not one that re-loads itself automatically) but there are very strict rules about where you can keep it etc. If you live in a city you have to be a member of a gun club and usually the guns are stored there. Gun owneship is not seen as a basic right here.

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                                          Josh Gray wrote:

                                          o me the word terrorism means that someone is causing terror in order to advance their own cause.

                                          I think it sufficient that they cause terror. Randomly gunning down strangers in a public shopping center may not be as dramatic as blowing oneself to bits in the same setting, but it just as effectively terrified everyone there. And I have yet to see how any example of terrorism to date has advanced the terrorist's cause (that may be motive, but it is rarely if ever the result that the cause is advanced).

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                                          This is a common definition of terrorism The calculated use of violence or the threat of violence to inculcate fear; intended to coerce or to intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political, religious, or ideological. [^] You may find a definition of terrorist that doesn't include motive but there is clearly a difference between the terrorism of this shooter or the Columbine shooters and the terrorism of Timothy McVeigh or Hamas.

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