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if Vista's Explorer (NOT IE) was a living person, well, it wouldnt be living anymore...

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  • A Anton Afanasyev

    You know that whole Views->Details/List/LargeIcons/etc? Exactly how many times do I have to set it to Details to actually get it to Vista's internals that I want D E T A I L S view. Not Large icons whereI have pictures. Not some weird mixed mode in the My Computer (or, just Computer, now) folder... I keep selecting Details, then apply to all folders in the Tools/View Dialog box, yet, it randomly changes the columns,the way it looks. I want to kill someone. Or something. I noticed this back in one of the betas, but thought it was a bug so didnt give it much attention, but now.... :mad::mad::mad: anyone?


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    Dario Solera
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    I have the same issue! It's driving me CRAZY! :mad:

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    • A Anton Afanasyev

      Michael Dunn wrote:

      The usability of Explorer as a whole sure took a nosedive in Vista

      Thats what happens when they try to make the system more "new user"-friendly. They put in a bunch of features that are good, but once you start customizing(or, rather, _trying_ to customize), you see it doesnt work, and even worse, cant turn things off. I wouldnt object ifthis was on Vista HOme or something, but Ultimate, come ON, Ultimate is MADE for advanced users, why leave all these things there that most of us wont need..and they know we WONT need them. Seriously, it cant be THAT hard to switch a few libraries in thedifferent releases and have diffeent functionality. I rememebr same thing(well, to an extent) was with XP installation -> when you install it, it asks you to enter a few users' names to create. You ABSOLUTELY MUST enter at least one. Well, it creates them all admins. I'd understand for Home users(ease of use, depsite security problems) and all, but for XP Pro...thats just DUMB. As always, experience-based IMHO.


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      Lost User
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      I don't understand the big deal in making this work right. If they just used default display settings on install, and kept all user changes (maybe with a button in settings to revert back to the defaults) in the user specific "Application Data" folder, it would have been so much easier for users. You could even copy the hidden file that stores your settings to another machine or user account and get all your favourite settings. It seems to me that Microsoft insists on complicating things beyond what it should be. I have yet not understood why they wanted users to write application specific settings in the registry. Writing in files would have been simpler. Creating admin users for "ease of use" is also dumb. Many applications local to a user can be installed into user accessible space without any administrative privileges. If you want to install a shared application, then the user must be prompted to provide the username/password just for the installer. I can use my Linux box and Mac OS X box without administrative rights without any problem. In Ubuntu Linux, it asks for the administrator password when bringing up the package manager. Once in the package manager, any number of installs and uninstalls can be done. OS X just prompts for a password when it needs administrative rights. Why can't Windows do it, if all other OSs can do it. Thomas

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      • M Michael Dunn

        Wish I could help you. I keep setting the columns to be reasonable (size/type/date/attributes), yet some folders keep reverting back to something whacky and useless like author/title/rating. My Saved Games folder (never used) right now shows Name-Artists-Album-#-Genre-Rating :wtf: The usability of Explorer as a whole sure took a nosedive in Vista. :|

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        Vikram A Punathambekar
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        Michael Dunn wrote:

        The usability of Explorer as a whole sure took a nosedive in Vista.

        Really? I haven't used Vista, but I heard that Explorer was one of the few things that was *improved* in Vista. Your post is making me think again - if what you described is one of the better things, I'd hate to see the worse stuff. :~

        Cheers, Vikram.


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        • A Anton Afanasyev

          You know that whole Views->Details/List/LargeIcons/etc? Exactly how many times do I have to set it to Details to actually get it to Vista's internals that I want D E T A I L S view. Not Large icons whereI have pictures. Not some weird mixed mode in the My Computer (or, just Computer, now) folder... I keep selecting Details, then apply to all folders in the Tools/View Dialog box, yet, it randomly changes the columns,the way it looks. I want to kill someone. Or something. I noticed this back in one of the betas, but thought it was a bug so didnt give it much attention, but now.... :mad::mad::mad: anyone?


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          Bert Otherside82 Derijckere
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          I believe I once read (on Raymond Chen's blog, here: http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2004/05/27/143042.aspx#143493[^]) that explorer only remembers the last couple of hundred folder custumizations. So if you have customized a lot of folders, the oldest custumizations will be lost. The solution I'm using consists of turning of per folder customization and setting all folders view to details. Go to Tools menu > Folder Options > View TabPage > "Apply to all folders" button Also uncheck the option "Remember each folder's view settings" in the list on that same TabPage Hope this helps [Edited to add a link and some extra info]

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          • A Anton Afanasyev

            You know that whole Views->Details/List/LargeIcons/etc? Exactly how many times do I have to set it to Details to actually get it to Vista's internals that I want D E T A I L S view. Not Large icons whereI have pictures. Not some weird mixed mode in the My Computer (or, just Computer, now) folder... I keep selecting Details, then apply to all folders in the Tools/View Dialog box, yet, it randomly changes the columns,the way it looks. I want to kill someone. Or something. I noticed this back in one of the betas, but thought it was a bug so didnt give it much attention, but now.... :mad::mad::mad: anyone?


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            Rage
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            Anton Afanasyev wrote:

            set it to Details

            Oh how I understand you ! Why did they invent other views than Details? Who on earth is using one of these dumb Large Icons views, or even List view ? Plus why on earth is the worst of the views always chosen by default after install ? Never understood that. :~ X|

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            • A Anton Afanasyev

              You know that whole Views->Details/List/LargeIcons/etc? Exactly how many times do I have to set it to Details to actually get it to Vista's internals that I want D E T A I L S view. Not Large icons whereI have pictures. Not some weird mixed mode in the My Computer (or, just Computer, now) folder... I keep selecting Details, then apply to all folders in the Tools/View Dialog box, yet, it randomly changes the columns,the way it looks. I want to kill someone. Or something. I noticed this back in one of the betas, but thought it was a bug so didnt give it much attention, but now.... :mad::mad::mad: anyone?


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              Obliterator
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              I see you're getting the full WOW feeling! :)

              -- The Obliterator

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              • B Bert Otherside82 Derijckere

                I believe I once read (on Raymond Chen's blog, here: http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2004/05/27/143042.aspx#143493[^]) that explorer only remembers the last couple of hundred folder custumizations. So if you have customized a lot of folders, the oldest custumizations will be lost. The solution I'm using consists of turning of per folder customization and setting all folders view to details. Go to Tools menu > Folder Options > View TabPage > "Apply to all folders" button Also uncheck the option "Remember each folder's view settings" in the list on that same TabPage Hope this helps [Edited to add a link and some extra info]

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                Gary Wheeler
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                My standard procedure since at least Win2K. My personal favorite is the "don't show me file extentions for files you know about". Absolutely brain-dead :rolleyes:.


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                • M Michael Dunn

                  Wish I could help you. I keep setting the columns to be reasonable (size/type/date/attributes), yet some folders keep reverting back to something whacky and useless like author/title/rating. My Saved Games folder (never used) right now shows Name-Artists-Album-#-Genre-Rating :wtf: The usability of Explorer as a whole sure took a nosedive in Vista. :|

                  --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ Ford, what's this fish doing in my ear?

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                  Dan Neely
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                  That's an XP feature, not a vista one. Mommy MS knows better than you what columns you really want in your details view. Noone should ever care about the date stamp on a music file. :doh:

                  -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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                  • A Anton Afanasyev

                    You know that whole Views->Details/List/LargeIcons/etc? Exactly how many times do I have to set it to Details to actually get it to Vista's internals that I want D E T A I L S view. Not Large icons whereI have pictures. Not some weird mixed mode in the My Computer (or, just Computer, now) folder... I keep selecting Details, then apply to all folders in the Tools/View Dialog box, yet, it randomly changes the columns,the way it looks. I want to kill someone. Or something. I noticed this back in one of the betas, but thought it was a bug so didnt give it much attention, but now.... :mad::mad::mad: anyone?


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                    Douglas Troy
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                    Dear God man ... you need to be saved from this madness ... go get Total Commander[^] and be done with Explorer already. yes ... I know TC isn't all pretty like Vista's explorer, but when it comes to my tools, I'll take functionality over looks any day.


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                    • A Anton Afanasyev

                      You know that whole Views->Details/List/LargeIcons/etc? Exactly how many times do I have to set it to Details to actually get it to Vista's internals that I want D E T A I L S view. Not Large icons whereI have pictures. Not some weird mixed mode in the My Computer (or, just Computer, now) folder... I keep selecting Details, then apply to all folders in the Tools/View Dialog box, yet, it randomly changes the columns,the way it looks. I want to kill someone. Or something. I noticed this back in one of the betas, but thought it was a bug so didnt give it much attention, but now.... :mad::mad::mad: anyone?


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                      David Wulff
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                      Even better... put an MP3 in a folder containing 100's of documents and it will display the lot as if they were music files. :rolleyes:


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                      • B Bert Otherside82 Derijckere

                        I believe I once read (on Raymond Chen's blog, here: http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2004/05/27/143042.aspx#143493[^]) that explorer only remembers the last couple of hundred folder custumizations. So if you have customized a lot of folders, the oldest custumizations will be lost. The solution I'm using consists of turning of per folder customization and setting all folders view to details. Go to Tools menu > Folder Options > View TabPage > "Apply to all folders" button Also uncheck the option "Remember each folder's view settings" in the list on that same TabPage Hope this helps [Edited to add a link and some extra info]

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                        Anton Afanasyev
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                        Since Win2k, thats what I always do. Doesnt help in Vista though. worked for a while and then BAAAAAM I see a bunch of shitty looking folders.....other ideas?


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                          Even better... put an MP3 in a folder containing 100's of documents and it will display the lot as if they were music files. :rolleyes:


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                          Anton Afanasyev
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                          Yeah I know...geez, Im sure all those files have MP3 tags and no date saved/modified...sheesh


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                          • A Anton Afanasyev

                            You know that whole Views->Details/List/LargeIcons/etc? Exactly how many times do I have to set it to Details to actually get it to Vista's internals that I want D E T A I L S view. Not Large icons whereI have pictures. Not some weird mixed mode in the My Computer (or, just Computer, now) folder... I keep selecting Details, then apply to all folders in the Tools/View Dialog box, yet, it randomly changes the columns,the way it looks. I want to kill someone. Or something. I noticed this back in one of the betas, but thought it was a bug so didnt give it much attention, but now.... :mad::mad::mad: anyone?


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                            PIEBALDconsult
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                            I just want an updated Windows 3

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                              I see you're getting the full WOW feeling! :)

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                              Michael Dunn
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                              WOW as in "WOW this sucks!" ;)

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                              • D Douglas Troy

                                Dear God man ... you need to be saved from this madness ... go get Total Commander[^] and be done with Explorer already. yes ... I know TC isn't all pretty like Vista's explorer, but when it comes to my tools, I'll take functionality over looks any day.


                                :..::. Douglas H. Troy ::..
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                                Anton Afanasyev
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                                well I may as well use FAR manager if were talking _alternative_ things. Id like Explorer to do things properly though.


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                                • A Anton Afanasyev

                                  Since Win2k, thats what I always do. Doesnt help in Vista though. worked for a while and then BAAAAAM I see a bunch of shitty looking folders.....other ideas?


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                                  Bert Otherside82 Derijckere
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                                  I haven't used Vista yet and since my solution works on XP, I don't really have any other ideas. Maybe you can try on some of the blogs of people who have worked on Vista?

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