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  • J Jim Crafton

    I just came across this, which I suppose is old news at this point: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5304086.stm[^] What struck me was the comment about Lockheed hoping to get a replacement for the shuttle by no later than 2014 - when the shuttle itself is supposed to be retired by 2010!! Well what happens if Lockheed's schedule slips (I know, that's unheard of...)? Also why oh why, in the 21st century, is it going to take us *14* years to get back to the Moon (the article mentions a timetable of around 2020 for getting back to the Moon)! When we were able to get there in 9 (1960 , or thereabouts when President Kennedy made it a national goal to get to the Moon, 1969 when we landed). That just makes me indescribably sad that we've let this go for so long.

    ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Techno Silliness

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    Josh Smith
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    Jim Crafton wrote:

    Also why oh why, in the 21st century, is it going to take us *14* years to get back to the Moon (the article mentions a timetable of around 2020 for getting back to the Moon)!

    Back to the moon? Everyone knows that we never made it to the moon. It was all an elaborate hoax. I think "the moon" man walked on was actually some guy's garage in Arizona. Duh. :rolleyes:

    :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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      I wouldn't be surprised if private industry get's tourists in orbit sooner than NASA can hope to get anyone on the moon.

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      Steve McLenithan
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      No kidding. When private industry can make a orbital craft for a few million bucks (as opposed to NASA's billions), I wouldn't be surprised if the first moon base belonged to a private company. Hello Total Recall?

      Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.

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      • J Josh Smith

        Jim Crafton wrote:

        Also why oh why, in the 21st century, is it going to take us *14* years to get back to the Moon (the article mentions a timetable of around 2020 for getting back to the Moon)!

        Back to the moon? Everyone knows that we never made it to the moon. It was all an elaborate hoax. I think "the moon" man walked on was actually some guy's garage in Arizona. Duh. :rolleyes:

        :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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        Jim Crafton
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        Heh, you could use Blender to fake it now! :) And then post the "evidence" up on You-Tube!

        ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Techno Silliness

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        • J Jim Crafton

          I just came across this, which I suppose is old news at this point: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5304086.stm[^] What struck me was the comment about Lockheed hoping to get a replacement for the shuttle by no later than 2014 - when the shuttle itself is supposed to be retired by 2010!! Well what happens if Lockheed's schedule slips (I know, that's unheard of...)? Also why oh why, in the 21st century, is it going to take us *14* years to get back to the Moon (the article mentions a timetable of around 2020 for getting back to the Moon)! When we were able to get there in 9 (1960 , or thereabouts when President Kennedy made it a national goal to get to the Moon, 1969 when we landed). That just makes me indescribably sad that we've let this go for so long.

          ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Techno Silliness

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          stephen hazel
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          Well, I'm no expert on any of that. But, the other day I was watching somethin on the local public network tv channel about the mars robots n such. VERY cool pics n such. I'd rather have the money goin to mars exploration, myself. I mean, well, the moon is just a moon and we can see it pretty well, eh? Mars is a big ole planet that could use plenty of exploration. They found water, maybe if they zero in better next time they'll find fossils or somethin? who knows?

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          • J Jim Crafton

            I just came across this, which I suppose is old news at this point: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5304086.stm[^] What struck me was the comment about Lockheed hoping to get a replacement for the shuttle by no later than 2014 - when the shuttle itself is supposed to be retired by 2010!! Well what happens if Lockheed's schedule slips (I know, that's unheard of...)? Also why oh why, in the 21st century, is it going to take us *14* years to get back to the Moon (the article mentions a timetable of around 2020 for getting back to the Moon)! When we were able to get there in 9 (1960 , or thereabouts when President Kennedy made it a national goal to get to the Moon, 1969 when we landed). That just makes me indescribably sad that we've let this go for so long.

            ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Techno Silliness

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            Lost User
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            Because it's simply Apollo II? Money could be better spent focussing on the shuttle replacement.

            The tigress is here :-D

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            • J Jim Crafton

              Heh, you could use Blender to fake it now! :) And then post the "evidence" up on You-Tube!

              ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Techno Silliness

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              Robert Surtees
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              always funny[^]

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                always funny[^]

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                Dan Neely
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                no youtube at work. IS that the frog blender?

                -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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                • J Jim Crafton

                  I just came across this, which I suppose is old news at this point: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5304086.stm[^] What struck me was the comment about Lockheed hoping to get a replacement for the shuttle by no later than 2014 - when the shuttle itself is supposed to be retired by 2010!! Well what happens if Lockheed's schedule slips (I know, that's unheard of...)? Also why oh why, in the 21st century, is it going to take us *14* years to get back to the Moon (the article mentions a timetable of around 2020 for getting back to the Moon)! When we were able to get there in 9 (1960 , or thereabouts when President Kennedy made it a national goal to get to the Moon, 1969 when we landed). That just makes me indescribably sad that we've let this go for so long.

                  ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Techno Silliness

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                  Rob Graham
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                  :-D

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                    no youtube at work. IS that the frog blender?

                    -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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                    Nope. It's a vid of Armstrong stepping off the lander with a bit of an unexpected twist.

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                    • J Jim Crafton

                      I just came across this, which I suppose is old news at this point: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5304086.stm[^] What struck me was the comment about Lockheed hoping to get a replacement for the shuttle by no later than 2014 - when the shuttle itself is supposed to be retired by 2010!! Well what happens if Lockheed's schedule slips (I know, that's unheard of...)? Also why oh why, in the 21st century, is it going to take us *14* years to get back to the Moon (the article mentions a timetable of around 2020 for getting back to the Moon)! When we were able to get there in 9 (1960 , or thereabouts when President Kennedy made it a national goal to get to the Moon, 1969 when we landed). That just makes me indescribably sad that we've let this go for so long.

                      ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Techno Silliness

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                      starcraft4ever
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                      >> is it going to take us *14* years to get back to the Moon hmmm... When was the first time? :doh:

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                      • J Josh Smith

                        Jim Crafton wrote:

                        Also why oh why, in the 21st century, is it going to take us *14* years to get back to the Moon (the article mentions a timetable of around 2020 for getting back to the Moon)!

                        Back to the moon? Everyone knows that we never made it to the moon. It was all an elaborate hoax. I think "the moon" man walked on was actually some guy's garage in Arizona. Duh. :rolleyes:

                        :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                        El Corazon
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                        Josh Smith wrote:

                        was actually some guy's garage in Arizona

                        you flat earther you... ;P

                        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                        • J Jim Crafton

                          I just came across this, which I suppose is old news at this point: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5304086.stm[^] What struck me was the comment about Lockheed hoping to get a replacement for the shuttle by no later than 2014 - when the shuttle itself is supposed to be retired by 2010!! Well what happens if Lockheed's schedule slips (I know, that's unheard of...)? Also why oh why, in the 21st century, is it going to take us *14* years to get back to the Moon (the article mentions a timetable of around 2020 for getting back to the Moon)! When we were able to get there in 9 (1960 , or thereabouts when President Kennedy made it a national goal to get to the Moon, 1969 when we landed). That just makes me indescribably sad that we've let this go for so long.

                          ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Techno Silliness

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                          El Corazon
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                          Jim Crafton wrote:

                          Also why oh why, in the 21st century, is it going to take us *14* years to get back to the Moon

                          To make a long story short, reuse. How many shuttles were launched? how many pieces recovered to be reused? a lot. Apollo, everything went into museums or were lost forever because nothing was reusable. Dumping Apollo pieces into the ocean and replacing them with factory builds is expensive, and at today's prices massively expensive. That's a lot of raw ore to throw away at every launch. Which means, we are starting over again, throwing away all of the Apollo program and coming at it from different views. There will still be stuff left on the moon, though it is hoped that design work could mean those pieces could later be reused in building a mining or research base. Any design with these ideas in mind get better attention. In the end it is a matter of focus. We are only going to the moon as proof to go to Mars. The moon is closer, and safer for testing the idea of going to Mars. Now that we have found water on Mars, or at least strong enough evidence, we have a strong enough reason to go. Water means oxygen, water means a base could go there, water means who ever gets their first could be staying.... If that is not us, there are a few people who REALLY don't like that idea.

                          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                            Josh Smith wrote:

                            was actually some guy's garage in Arizona

                            you flat earther you... ;P

                            _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                            Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                            you flat earther you...

                            Outer space is for aliens. ;P

                            :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                              Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                              you flat earther you...

                              Outer space is for aliens. ;P

                              :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                              El Corazon
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                              Josh Smith wrote:

                              Outer space is for aliens.

                              Inner space is for bacteria.... I prefer Virtual space anyhow. ;P

                              _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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