64 bits -- When?
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What ever happened to 64-bit computing? - A while back there was talk of Intel and HP releasing a new 64-bit chip with a new architecture. Did it happen? - Microsoft has mentioned its 64-bit version of Windows on numerous occasions. When is that gonna reach the masses? - Do we really need 64-bit computing? I mean, is 32 bits enough for the majority of end-user apps (Word, Excel, Outlook, etc.). Would 64-bit apps running on 64-bit OSs be any better than their 32-bit counterparts on 32-bit OSs? Regards, Alvaro Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein
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What ever happened to 64-bit computing? - A while back there was talk of Intel and HP releasing a new 64-bit chip with a new architecture. Did it happen? - Microsoft has mentioned its 64-bit version of Windows on numerous occasions. When is that gonna reach the masses? - Do we really need 64-bit computing? I mean, is 32 bits enough for the majority of end-user apps (Word, Excel, Outlook, etc.). Would 64-bit apps running on 64-bit OSs be any better than their 32-bit counterparts on 32-bit OSs? Regards, Alvaro Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein
Alvaro Mendez wrote: - Microsoft has mentioned its 64-bit version of Windows on numerous occasions. When is that gonna reach the masses? Nicknamed Blackcomb, it's promised deadlines have had more slippage than Liz Taylor's face. At this point, I doubt that anyone knows for sure when it will be done. Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# A total abstainer is one who abstains from everything but abstention, and especially from inactivity in the affairs of others.
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What ever happened to 64-bit computing? - A while back there was talk of Intel and HP releasing a new 64-bit chip with a new architecture. Did it happen? - Microsoft has mentioned its 64-bit version of Windows on numerous occasions. When is that gonna reach the masses? - Do we really need 64-bit computing? I mean, is 32 bits enough for the majority of end-user apps (Word, Excel, Outlook, etc.). Would 64-bit apps running on 64-bit OSs be any better than their 32-bit counterparts on 32-bit OSs? Regards, Alvaro Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein
I received a email which attached a picture (screen shot) of 64 bit Windows OS. The driver disckette for some of my card... it contains a folder for Intel IA64! Intel IA64, Intel IA64, Intel IA64, Intel IA64, Intel IA64, Intel IA64, Intel IA64, Intel IA64, Intel IA64, Intel IA64, Intel IA64..... Maxwell Chen No code is good code.
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What ever happened to 64-bit computing? - A while back there was talk of Intel and HP releasing a new 64-bit chip with a new architecture. Did it happen? - Microsoft has mentioned its 64-bit version of Windows on numerous occasions. When is that gonna reach the masses? - Do we really need 64-bit computing? I mean, is 32 bits enough for the majority of end-user apps (Word, Excel, Outlook, etc.). Would 64-bit apps running on 64-bit OSs be any better than their 32-bit counterparts on 32-bit OSs? Regards, Alvaro Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein
Alvaro Mendez wrote: What ever happened to 64-bit computing? Intel 64bit Microsoft 64bit
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What ever happened to 64-bit computing? - A while back there was talk of Intel and HP releasing a new 64-bit chip with a new architecture. Did it happen? - Microsoft has mentioned its 64-bit version of Windows on numerous occasions. When is that gonna reach the masses? - Do we really need 64-bit computing? I mean, is 32 bits enough for the majority of end-user apps (Word, Excel, Outlook, etc.). Would 64-bit apps running on 64-bit OSs be any better than their 32-bit counterparts on 32-bit OSs? Regards, Alvaro Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein
Well, considering 64 bit processors have been around for 10 years now, it is about time for Intel to catch up with the rest of the world. :rolleyes: Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?
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What ever happened to 64-bit computing? - A while back there was talk of Intel and HP releasing a new 64-bit chip with a new architecture. Did it happen? - Microsoft has mentioned its 64-bit version of Windows on numerous occasions. When is that gonna reach the masses? - Do we really need 64-bit computing? I mean, is 32 bits enough for the majority of end-user apps (Word, Excel, Outlook, etc.). Would 64-bit apps running on 64-bit OSs be any better than their 32-bit counterparts on 32-bit OSs? Regards, Alvaro Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein
Alvaro Mendez wrote: - A while back there was talk of Intel and HP releasing a new 64-bit chip with a new architecture. Did it happen? Yes. But the chip is priced so that it is only for the high end servers > $3000US for the chip alone. It is also only 800Mhz and it does not run 32 bit apps as fast as the current AMD and Intel desktop processors. Next year when AMD releases their 64 bit platform to the desktop environment we should see more interest in 64 bit computing. Their approach is to just extend the 32bit instruction set to 64bits and allow full backward compatibility so there is no compromise in speed. Also their chips are running at 2+ GHZ now. Different versions of the chip are targeted at the notebook, desktop and server segments. MS has been working on a 64bit version of windows XP that supports AMD's new chips.
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What ever happened to 64-bit computing? - A while back there was talk of Intel and HP releasing a new 64-bit chip with a new architecture. Did it happen? - Microsoft has mentioned its 64-bit version of Windows on numerous occasions. When is that gonna reach the masses? - Do we really need 64-bit computing? I mean, is 32 bits enough for the majority of end-user apps (Word, Excel, Outlook, etc.). Would 64-bit apps running on 64-bit OSs be any better than their 32-bit counterparts on 32-bit OSs? Regards, Alvaro Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein
Alvaro Mendez wrote: - Do we really need 64-bit computing? I mean, is 32 bits enough for the majority of end-user apps (Word, Excel, Outlook, etc.). Would 64-bit apps running on 64-bit OSs be any better than their 32-bit counterparts on 32-bit OSs?
Well, as someone who worked on 64-bit systems for most of the past decade, yes. At least some of the server world does. Look for information on Alpha (from Digital via Compaq).
Now, OTOH, do I need 64 bits to run MS Office? I don't know. I mean, Word is kinda big, but really... Jim.
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What ever happened to 64-bit computing? - A while back there was talk of Intel and HP releasing a new 64-bit chip with a new architecture. Did it happen? - Microsoft has mentioned its 64-bit version of Windows on numerous occasions. When is that gonna reach the masses? - Do we really need 64-bit computing? I mean, is 32 bits enough for the majority of end-user apps (Word, Excel, Outlook, etc.). Would 64-bit apps running on 64-bit OSs be any better than their 32-bit counterparts on 32-bit OSs? Regards, Alvaro Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein
"- Do we really need 64-bit computing? I mean, is 32 bits enough for the majority of end-user apps (Word, Excel, Outlook, etc.). Would 64-bit apps running on 64-bit OSs be any better than their 32-bit counterparts on 32-bit OSs?" Sure do. They ( 64 bit chips ) will really open the door to real voice recognition, speech to text,text to speech, language translation, faster graphics , true multitasking, and a whole genre of things that are just not really feasible with 32 bit design. Of course this may all go down the black hole of backwards compatibility but I hope not. Richard If a packet hits a pocket on a socket on a port, and the bus is interrupted at a very last resort, and the access of the memory makes your floppy disk abort, then the socket packet pocket has an error to report. If your cursor finds a menu item followed by a dash, and the double-clicking icon puts your window in the trash, and your data is corrupted 'cause the index doesn't hash, then your situation's hopeless and your system's gonna crash!!!
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Alvaro Mendez wrote: - Do we really need 64-bit computing? I mean, is 32 bits enough for the majority of end-user apps (Word, Excel, Outlook, etc.). Would 64-bit apps running on 64-bit OSs be any better than their 32-bit counterparts on 32-bit OSs?
Well, as someone who worked on 64-bit systems for most of the past decade, yes. At least some of the server world does. Look for information on Alpha (from Digital via Compaq).
Now, OTOH, do I need 64 bits to run MS Office? I don't know. I mean, Word is kinda big, but really... Jim.
I do. Actually I need to be able to easily access more than 2 GB of memory in my applications. I know about AWE and the 3GB switch but both have their limited value and licensing problems.. You need to have atleast advance server to use the 3GB switch. You are going to ask why do I need > 2GB of memory, I develop research systems for breast cancer where the images are between 33MB to 65MB each uncompressed and not cropped. Each patient has alteast 4 films per exam (some have 8). We would like to be able to switch between patients as quickly as possible so we would like to preload as many cases as we can.
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What ever happened to 64-bit computing? - A while back there was talk of Intel and HP releasing a new 64-bit chip with a new architecture. Did it happen? - Microsoft has mentioned its 64-bit version of Windows on numerous occasions. When is that gonna reach the masses? - Do we really need 64-bit computing? I mean, is 32 bits enough for the majority of end-user apps (Word, Excel, Outlook, etc.). Would 64-bit apps running on 64-bit OSs be any better than their 32-bit counterparts on 32-bit OSs? Regards, Alvaro Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein
Alvaro Mendez wrote: What ever happened to 64-bit computing? Could someone explain to me and others what would change from 32 bit computing to 64? Why would current software not run on those processors(please no answers saying "Because they were made for 32 it processors"), what is really going on that requires a change? Please enlighten me. Nick Parker
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What ever happened to 64-bit computing? - A while back there was talk of Intel and HP releasing a new 64-bit chip with a new architecture. Did it happen? - Microsoft has mentioned its 64-bit version of Windows on numerous occasions. When is that gonna reach the masses? - Do we really need 64-bit computing? I mean, is 32 bits enough for the majority of end-user apps (Word, Excel, Outlook, etc.). Would 64-bit apps running on 64-bit OSs be any better than their 32-bit counterparts on 32-bit OSs? Regards, Alvaro Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein
Alvaro Mendez wrote: - A while back there was talk of Intel and HP releasing a new 64-bit chip with a new architecture. Did it happen? Intel have gt two 64bit plans running in conjunction, a link was posted about it here in the lounge a while back. Alvaro Mendez wrote: - Do we really need 64-bit computing? I mean, is 32 bits enough for the majority of end-user apps (Word, Excel, Outlook, etc.). Would 64-bit apps running on 64-bit OSs be any better than their 32-bit counterparts on 32-bit OSs? The say questions were asked several years ago when we had 16 bits, and I guess before that when we had 8 and 12 bit systems. As strange as it seems we apperar to always find uses for more power. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Alvaro Mendez wrote: - A while back there was talk of Intel and HP releasing a new 64-bit chip with a new architecture. Did it happen? Intel have gt two 64bit plans running in conjunction, a link was posted about it here in the lounge a while back. Alvaro Mendez wrote: - Do we really need 64-bit computing? I mean, is 32 bits enough for the majority of end-user apps (Word, Excel, Outlook, etc.). Would 64-bit apps running on 64-bit OSs be any better than their 32-bit counterparts on 32-bit OSs? The say questions were asked several years ago when we had 16 bits, and I guess before that when we had 8 and 12 bit systems. As strange as it seems we apperar to always find uses for more power. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
More about me :-)
****Colin Davies wrote: when we had 8 The need for more was obvious when we had 4-bit systems (SN74181 ALU + SN74194 Register + DIP Switch), and 8-bit toys really cramped one's style. With 16 some interesting things became practical, and 32 more than doubled our range. In most of these transitions the majority of the herd questioned the need for the next step. While it may be tough to conceive of any benefits arising from the 64-bit transition, the value will probably become obvious after the switch. I'm still hoping we'll go back to analog computing... I miss that extra bit of accuracy:-D