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  • I Igor Vigdorchik

    Christian Graus wrote:

    As I said, every Delphi program I have seen, was a disaster.

    What does it have to do with the language being a disaster? BTW do you know what is the language that Delphi is based on?

    Christian Graus wrote:

    I mean my list

    Care to share with us how did you come up with your list?

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    Christian Graus
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    Igor Vigdorchik wrote:

    BTW do you know what is the language that Delphi is based on?

    Pascal ?

    Igor Vigdorchik wrote:

    Care to share with us how did you come up with your list?

    Common sense

    Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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      How people feel about anything on this site should in no way affect your enjoyment of that thing. ;) The only Borland product I ever used was Turbo C++ back in the day and I loved it because of the radical new invention of coloured syntax highlighting. :)

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      Lost User
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      John Cardinal wrote:

      The only Borland product I ever used was Turbo C++

      The one with the dos text mode ide? I think i still have the floppy disks from the educational version that came with my text book

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      • S Stigmurder

        After learning how people feel about VB, I was wondering how people feel about Delphi? I have a copy of Borland Turbo Delphi and so far I find it easy and fun.

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        Lost User
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        I've done some Delphi and I dont mind it. := )


        Java IS a platform so it is not platform independence, remember that. Your program runs on a platform regardless of what you think or what people say. With Java you are not running on different platforms, you are running on a platform that sits on top of other platforms, and remember the .NET platform sits on top of platforms other than Windows. - CSS on JAVA

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        • C Christian Graus

          Delphi seems to me to be a disaster. At least, any software that I've known was written in Delphi, has been an obvious disaster. I have no idea what it looks like, tho. Are you on a quest to use the most popular language ? If you want to do windows, C# and VB.NET are the only logical choices, IMO, unless you have a reason to use C++. Delphi doesn't even make the list.

          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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          Fernando A Gomez F
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          If I'd had to choose between Delphi and VB6, I'd choose Delphi in less than a picosecond. Although, I admit, Delphi is known for having many bugs in its standard controls. Still, it's best than VB6 IMO. Also, AFAIK, Delphi 7 follows the CLS and you can use it to build .NET apps.

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            John Cardinal wrote:

            The only Borland product I ever used was Turbo C++

            The one with the dos text mode ide? I think i still have the floppy disks from the educational version that came with my text book

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            Yeah that's it, I still remember that cool feeling you get when you see some new truly cool technology come along. I bought it with my first computer I ever bought brand new. Also around that time was the "Origami" editor which was the first editor I ever used to write code that supported collapsible regions. I used Turbo c++ to write a very convoluted and big BBS door game which sadly I gave up on 3/4 of the way through when real life required more attention. Oh well all that coding helped out in the big picture one way or another.

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            • I Igor Vigdorchik

              Christian Graus wrote:

              Delphi seems to me to be a disaster

              Christian Graus wrote:

              I have no idea what it looks like

              How can you judge something that you have no idea about?

              Christian Graus wrote:

              Delphi doesn't even make the list

              Are you sure about that?[^]

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              Member 96
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              Transact sql below cobol seems a little suspect doesn't it?

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              • F Fernando A Gomez F

                If I'd had to choose between Delphi and VB6, I'd choose Delphi in less than a picosecond. Although, I admit, Delphi is known for having many bugs in its standard controls. Still, it's best than VB6 IMO. Also, AFAIK, Delphi 7 follows the CLS and you can use it to build .NET apps.

                A polar bear is a bear whose coordinates has been changed in terms of sine and cosine. Personal Site

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                Christian Graus
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                I'd choose PE over VB6.

                Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                  Yeah that's it, I still remember that cool feeling you get when you see some new truly cool technology come along. I bought it with my first computer I ever bought brand new. Also around that time was the "Origami" editor which was the first editor I ever used to write code that supported collapsible regions. I used Turbo c++ to write a very convoluted and big BBS door game which sadly I gave up on 3/4 of the way through when real life required more attention. Oh well all that coding helped out in the big picture one way or another.

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                  Lost User
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                  John Cardinal wrote:

                  Yeah that's it, I still remember that cool feeling you get when you see some new truly cool technology come along. I bought it with my first computer I ever bought brand new.

                  It was my first programming experiance after cobol so I thought it was fantastic. I dont miss the 16bit segment/offset pointer stuff though

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    Delphi seems to me to be a disaster. At least, any software that I've known was written in Delphi, has been an obvious disaster. I have no idea what it looks like, tho. Are you on a quest to use the most popular language ? If you want to do windows, C# and VB.NET are the only logical choices, IMO, unless you have a reason to use C++. Delphi doesn't even make the list.

                    Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                    Stigmurder
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                    no, Im not on any kind of quest just curious to others opinions.

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                    • S Stigmurder

                      After learning how people feel about VB, I was wondering how people feel about Delphi? I have a copy of Borland Turbo Delphi and so far I find it easy and fun.

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                      The author of C# is also the author of Delphi. http://www.windowsdevcenter.com/pub/a/oreilly/windows/news/hejlsberg_0800.html[^] "Anders Hejlsberg is also known for having designed Turbo Pascal, one of the first languages available for PCs. Anders licensed Turbo Pascal to Borland and later led the team that created Delphi, a highly successful visual design tool for building client server applications."

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                      • S Stigmurder

                        After learning how people feel about VB, I was wondering how people feel about Delphi? I have a copy of Borland Turbo Delphi and so far I find it easy and fun.

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                        NormDroid
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                        Delphi rips over VB, Delphi at the time was even better than MFC.

                        .net is a box of never ending treasures, every day I get find another gem.

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                        • C Christian Graus

                          Delphi seems to me to be a disaster. At least, any software that I've known was written in Delphi, has been an obvious disaster. I have no idea what it looks like, tho. Are you on a quest to use the most popular language ? If you want to do windows, C# and VB.NET are the only logical choices, IMO, unless you have a reason to use C++. Delphi doesn't even make the list.

                          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                          Henrik Husted
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                          I did a bit of work in Delphi 2.0, it was waaay better than any other offering at that time. Anyway, Total Commander[^] is one Delphi application that I cannot live without :-)

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                          • S Stigmurder

                            After learning how people feel about VB, I was wondering how people feel about Delphi? I have a copy of Borland Turbo Delphi and so far I find it easy and fun.

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                            Virtual Coder
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                            Stigmurder wrote:

                            After learning how people feel about VB, I was wondering how people feel about Delphi? I have a copy of Borland Turbo Delphi and so far I find it easy and fun.

                            I guess, 80% of all freeware and nagware (a.k.a. shareware) programs are written in Delphi.

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                            • S Stigmurder

                              After learning how people feel about VB, I was wondering how people feel about Delphi? I have a copy of Borland Turbo Delphi and so far I find it easy and fun.

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                              ednrgc
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                              Delphi is the best Windows programming platform, period. I have been a C# programmer since the beta was released. I tried Winforms, but found it ridiculous. Delphi compiles into a true EXE, no runtimes. It's a great product.

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                              • C Christian Graus

                                Delphi seems to me to be a disaster. At least, any software that I've known was written in Delphi, has been an obvious disaster. I have no idea what it looks like, tho. Are you on a quest to use the most popular language ? If you want to do windows, C# and VB.NET are the only logical choices, IMO, unless you have a reason to use C++. Delphi doesn't even make the list.

                                Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                                ednrgc
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                                I couldn't disagree more. When you look at Winforms, it's obvious that it was built for Web, and Winforms was an afterthought. Delphi needs NO RUNTIMES (something that is very foreign to Microsoft developers).

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                                • C Christian Graus

                                  Igor Vigdorchik wrote:

                                  How can you judge something that you have no idea about?

                                  As I said, every Delphi program I have seen, was a disaster.

                                  Igor Vigdorchik wrote:

                                  Are you sure about that?[^]

                                  I mean my list of well supported languages for Windows. I can't speak for other lists.

                                  Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                                  ednrgc
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                                  Using that analogy: Formula One cars a disaster because they have the highest crash ratio per hour driven. Don't blame the product based on bad programmers.

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                                  • F Fernando A Gomez F

                                    If I'd had to choose between Delphi and VB6, I'd choose Delphi in less than a picosecond. Although, I admit, Delphi is known for having many bugs in its standard controls. Still, it's best than VB6 IMO. Also, AFAIK, Delphi 7 follows the CLS and you can use it to build .NET apps.

                                    A polar bear is a bear whose coordinates has been changed in terms of sine and cosine. Personal Site

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                                    ednrgc
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                                    Id choose DOS batch files over VB6.

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                                    • E econner

                                      The author of C# is also the author of Delphi. http://www.windowsdevcenter.com/pub/a/oreilly/windows/news/hejlsberg_0800.html[^] "Anders Hejlsberg is also known for having designed Turbo Pascal, one of the first languages available for PCs. Anders licensed Turbo Pascal to Borland and later led the team that created Delphi, a highly successful visual design tool for building client server applications."

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                                      ednrgc
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                                      For me, C# was the natural progression from Delphi. When I first programmed the 1st beta, I was amazed that it was a perfect mix of C++ meets Delphi. Having a Delphi background helped me tremendously during the transition.

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                                        Delphi rips over VB, Delphi at the time was even better than MFC.

                                        .net is a box of never ending treasures, every day I get find another gem.

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                                        ednrgc
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                                        OWL blew away MFC. But, it simply never caught on.

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                                          Stigmurder wrote:

                                          After learning how people feel about VB, I was wondering how people feel about Delphi? I have a copy of Borland Turbo Delphi and so far I find it easy and fun.

                                          I guess, 80% of all freeware and nagware (a.k.a. shareware) programs are written in Delphi.

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                                          ednrgc
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                                          That's because it was/is a great platform for Windows development. If your app doesn't run because the client is missing some VB runtimes, it's just an embarrassment. Delphi: No runtimes needed. Truly object oriented. Not that nonsense "object-based" programming.

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