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    jason_lakewhitney wrote:

    Is time travel possible?

    ...Why, since you posted this, i've travelled over four hours through time! :rolleyes:

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    Rajesh R Subramanian
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    I posted this last sunday :|

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      That is a *great* movie, the time travel is kind of incidental, I know it's a central part of the plot but it doesn't explore all the great time travel themes that come up in books. Brad Pitt's best performance. The whole mood of that movie is fantastic and I can never hear "Sleepwalk" by B.J. Cole without getting a "Blue Velvet" kind of vibe from it since.


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      Absolutely.!

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      Sleepwalk" by B.J. Cole

      That happens to me for "Wonderful World". Driving through those ugly subburbs (I think) "It's so.. beautiful!" oooaaah! :shivers:

      John Cardinal wrote:

      "Blue Velvet"

      That movie was made of shivers. And the time travel appears accidental, but seems "fully functional (some of the 'we analyze that' creeps have claimed it is as of yet the most accurate depiciton in a major movie). And it transports the creepieness of that whole time travel business.


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      • B Bruce Chapman DNN

        Well Terminator 2 is pretty good, but when it came out I got into arguments with people because I said it contained a paradox. The thing is, in Terminator 2, we meet the guy who designed the self-learning computer chip that eventually becomes skynet and the basis for the robot army (of which the Terminator is one). This guy (was his name Miles?) admits that all of his work was based on the smashed up remains of the first Terminator (out of the first movie). So here we have a chicken-and-egg problem. If Miles designed the chip that would become the basis for Terminator designs from the Terminator, how could he have designed the Terminator in the first place? In order for the original Terminator robot to be sent back in time and get smashed in an industrial press, someone had to design the chip that ran the Terminator's CPU. But lo! the chip was designed by someone who found the original and copied it. It didn't make sense to me then, it doesn't make sense to me now. But I've learned to live with the paradox, and I can even watch the movie without bringing it up (though this is difficult) I had a massive argument with my fellow class-cutting computer science undergrads all the way back from the theatre, and they all failed to grasp the paradox. Which makes me think they all were not cut out to be programmers. I actually skipped Computer Science 101 to go see T2 the day it came out - took me ages to figure recursion in Pascal from the textbook because I missed the lecture on it - oh the irony!

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        szukuro
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        The best time travel paradox I saw was in one Futurama episode (Roswell that ends well), where Fry (the main character) became his own grandfather :D

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          Back to the Future 3. The whole sequence on the train is awesome.

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          Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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          Beth has the Trilogy. It's one of her favourites. :cool:

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            Beth has the Trilogy. It's one of her favourites. :cool:

            Anna :rose: Linting the day away :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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            Pete OHanlon
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            The 19th Century ZZ Top were sooo funny.

            Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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            • R Rajesh R Subramanian

              I posted this last sunday :|

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              lost in transition
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              Sorry, I didn't know.


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              • B Bruce Chapman DNN

                Well Terminator 2 is pretty good, but when it came out I got into arguments with people because I said it contained a paradox. The thing is, in Terminator 2, we meet the guy who designed the self-learning computer chip that eventually becomes skynet and the basis for the robot army (of which the Terminator is one). This guy (was his name Miles?) admits that all of his work was based on the smashed up remains of the first Terminator (out of the first movie). So here we have a chicken-and-egg problem. If Miles designed the chip that would become the basis for Terminator designs from the Terminator, how could he have designed the Terminator in the first place? In order for the original Terminator robot to be sent back in time and get smashed in an industrial press, someone had to design the chip that ran the Terminator's CPU. But lo! the chip was designed by someone who found the original and copied it. It didn't make sense to me then, it doesn't make sense to me now. But I've learned to live with the paradox, and I can even watch the movie without bringing it up (though this is difficult) I had a massive argument with my fellow class-cutting computer science undergrads all the way back from the theatre, and they all failed to grasp the paradox. Which makes me think they all were not cut out to be programmers. I actually skipped Computer Science 101 to go see T2 the day it came out - took me ages to figure recursion in Pascal from the textbook because I missed the lecture on it - oh the irony!

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                brucerchapman wrote:

                I actually skipped Computer Science 101 to go see T2 the day it came out

                A true geek:laugh:.


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                • H Hans Dietrich

                  The Final Countdown

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                  gisTimmy
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                  Everything happens only once.

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                  • H Hans Dietrich

                    The Final Countdown

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                    Flynn Arrowstarr Regular Schmoe
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                    Love that movie. Must have watched it a couple dozen times when it was first on HBO in the early 80s. :) Flynn

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                      The 19th Century ZZ Top were sooo funny.

                      Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                      Blake Miller
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                      Clint Eastwood - what kind of a sissy name is that !? Makes me laugh every time.

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                      • L lost in transition

                        Is time travel possible? and If so can we you go back and stop Michel Jackson from turning white? Yall remember that movie [I think] 'The Philadelphia Project' were the ship dis-appears and then re-appears and the crew is somehow part of the ship. Here is the SOTD: What is your favorite time travel movie from around the world? Mine: Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure[^]. Well that is just one of the many.


                        God Bless, Jason
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                        Well, time travel to he future presents no paradoxes and can actually happen with speeds close to light. Travelling back in time is of course paradoxical - though I think even this is theoretically possible inside black holes. There's no paradox because you can't interfere, you can only observe. At least that's what I read in a popularisation of black holes many years ago.

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                        • K Kevin McFarlane

                          Well, time travel to he future presents no paradoxes and can actually happen with speeds close to light. Travelling back in time is of course paradoxical - though I think even this is theoretically possible inside black holes. There's no paradox because you can't interfere, you can only observe. At least that's what I read in a popularisation of black holes many years ago.

                          Kevin

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                          Expand for me about how black holes allow time travel. I can understand how space-time relate and after seeing the picture at wikipedia[^].


                          God Bless, Jason

                          DavidCrow wrote:

                          It would not affect me or my family one iota. My wife and I are in charge of when the tv is on, and what it displays. I do not need any external input for that.

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                            Expand for me about how black holes allow time travel. I can understand how space-time relate and after seeing the picture at wikipedia[^].


                            God Bless, Jason

                            DavidCrow wrote:

                            It would not affect me or my family one iota. My wife and I are in charge of when the tv is on, and what it displays. I do not need any external input for that.

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                            Kevin McFarlane
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                            jason_lakewhitney wrote:

                            Expand for me about how black holes allow time travel.

                            In a book I read many years ago they described how as you approached the event horizon of a black hole time would slow asymptotically to zero from the point of view of a distant observer, i.e., you would take forever to enter the black hole. But from the point of view of the traveller you would enter in a finite time and then fall backwards in time, i.e., you would observe time running backwards outside the event horizon. IIRC these effects depended on the type of black hole. I think they had to be rotating. However, I don't know whether the current theories still support this. For example, much of this speculation really needs to be informed by a long sought for theory of quantum gravity, which may have rather different effects.

                            Kevin

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                              Well Terminator 2 is pretty good, but when it came out I got into arguments with people because I said it contained a paradox. The thing is, in Terminator 2, we meet the guy who designed the self-learning computer chip that eventually becomes skynet and the basis for the robot army (of which the Terminator is one). This guy (was his name Miles?) admits that all of his work was based on the smashed up remains of the first Terminator (out of the first movie). So here we have a chicken-and-egg problem. If Miles designed the chip that would become the basis for Terminator designs from the Terminator, how could he have designed the Terminator in the first place? In order for the original Terminator robot to be sent back in time and get smashed in an industrial press, someone had to design the chip that ran the Terminator's CPU. But lo! the chip was designed by someone who found the original and copied it. It didn't make sense to me then, it doesn't make sense to me now. But I've learned to live with the paradox, and I can even watch the movie without bringing it up (though this is difficult) I had a massive argument with my fellow class-cutting computer science undergrads all the way back from the theatre, and they all failed to grasp the paradox. Which makes me think they all were not cut out to be programmers. I actually skipped Computer Science 101 to go see T2 the day it came out - took me ages to figure recursion in Pascal from the textbook because I missed the lecture on it - oh the irony!

                              Bruce Chapman iFinity.com.au - Websites and Software Development Plithy remark available in Beta 2

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                              Kevin McFarlane
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                              You analyse too much. T2 was just great popcorn entertainment. :)

                              Kevin

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