.NET 3.0
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Hi all, I am currently downloading the "Microsoft® Windows® Software Development Kit for Windows Vista™ and .NET Framework 3.0 Runtime Components". It's a huge 1.15GB download. What I want to know is: can I still use Visual Studio 2005 to work with .NET 3.0 or do I have to install a special module? I have Windows XP Professional with SP2. I suppose that everything needed to work with .NET 3.0 is included somewhere in those 1.15GB :) Any special stuff I need to be aware of to jump from 2.0 to 3.0? Any insight is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Talal
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." --Rich Cook
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Hi all, I am currently downloading the "Microsoft® Windows® Software Development Kit for Windows Vista™ and .NET Framework 3.0 Runtime Components". It's a huge 1.15GB download. What I want to know is: can I still use Visual Studio 2005 to work with .NET 3.0 or do I have to install a special module? I have Windows XP Professional with SP2. I suppose that everything needed to work with .NET 3.0 is included somewhere in those 1.15GB :) Any special stuff I need to be aware of to jump from 2.0 to 3.0? Any insight is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Talal
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." --Rich Cook
Talal Sultan wrote:
Microsoft® Windows® Software Development Kit for Windows Vista™ and .NET Framework 3.0 Runtime Components
As the name suggests, the Windows SDK is meant for Vista. You can install .NET 3.0 on XP though. Note however that runtime components are not for development, for that you need to install additional components (like WF extensions for VS etc.).
Talal Sultan wrote:
Any special stuff I need to be aware of to jump from 2.0 to 3.0?
A somewhat common misunderstanding. You don't jump from 2.0 to 3.0. The name is misleading - 3.0 is basically still 2.0, but with some enhancements (WF, WCF, WPF, Cardspace). So learning these technologies will get you teh knowledge of .NET 3.0.
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Talal Sultan wrote:
Microsoft® Windows® Software Development Kit for Windows Vista™ and .NET Framework 3.0 Runtime Components
As the name suggests, the Windows SDK is meant for Vista. You can install .NET 3.0 on XP though. Note however that runtime components are not for development, for that you need to install additional components (like WF extensions for VS etc.).
Talal Sultan wrote:
Any special stuff I need to be aware of to jump from 2.0 to 3.0?
A somewhat common misunderstanding. You don't jump from 2.0 to 3.0. The name is misleading - 3.0 is basically still 2.0, but with some enhancements (WF, WCF, WPF, Cardspace). So learning these technologies will get you teh knowledge of .NET 3.0.
Thanks for the clarifications. True, I have heard that 3.0 is not really a new framework but just the 2.0 plus some new things in it. As I have read, it was called WinFX but was renamed to 3.0, which, personally, I think is not a good idea :doh: So if I got it right, these enhancements need the equivalent modules in VS 2005 so that I be able to program with them, right? You said that there are WF extensions for VS which are, of course, for the WF enhancement you mentionned later; so I am assuming that there are also WCF extensions for VS and WPF and Cardspace. Is is a right assumption? I'll check the download I got and see if those extensions are already available in it. Thanks again :) Cheers, Talal
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." --Rich Cook
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Thanks for the clarifications. True, I have heard that 3.0 is not really a new framework but just the 2.0 plus some new things in it. As I have read, it was called WinFX but was renamed to 3.0, which, personally, I think is not a good idea :doh: So if I got it right, these enhancements need the equivalent modules in VS 2005 so that I be able to program with them, right? You said that there are WF extensions for VS which are, of course, for the WF enhancement you mentionned later; so I am assuming that there are also WCF extensions for VS and WPF and Cardspace. Is is a right assumption? I'll check the download I got and see if those extensions are already available in it. Thanks again :) Cheers, Talal
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." --Rich Cook
Talal Sultan wrote:
So if I got it right, these enhancements need the equivalent modules in VS 2005 so that I be able to program with them, right? You said that there are WF extensions for VS which are, of course, for the WF enhancement you mentionned later; so I am assuming that there are also WCF extensions for VS and WPF and Cardspace. Is is a right assumption?
Yes. I think basically you need these two: Visual Studio 2005 extensions for .NET Framework 3.0 (WCF & WPF), November 2006 CTP[^] Visual Studio 2005 extensions for .NET Framework 3.0 (Windows Workflow Foundation)[^]
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Talal Sultan wrote:
Microsoft® Windows® Software Development Kit for Windows Vista™ and .NET Framework 3.0 Runtime Components
As the name suggests, the Windows SDK is meant for Vista. You can install .NET 3.0 on XP though. Note however that runtime components are not for development, for that you need to install additional components (like WF extensions for VS etc.).
Talal Sultan wrote:
Any special stuff I need to be aware of to jump from 2.0 to 3.0?
A somewhat common misunderstanding. You don't jump from 2.0 to 3.0. The name is misleading - 3.0 is basically still 2.0, but with some enhancements (WF, WCF, WPF, Cardspace). So learning these technologies will get you teh knowledge of .NET 3.0.
szukuro wrote:
The name is misleading - 3.0 is basically still 2.0, but with some enhancements
...and to think that WinFX was renamed to .NET 3.0 in order to "reduce confusion" :)
Kevin
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Hi all, I am currently downloading the "Microsoft® Windows® Software Development Kit for Windows Vista™ and .NET Framework 3.0 Runtime Components". It's a huge 1.15GB download. What I want to know is: can I still use Visual Studio 2005 to work with .NET 3.0 or do I have to install a special module? I have Windows XP Professional with SP2. I suppose that everything needed to work with .NET 3.0 is included somewhere in those 1.15GB :) Any special stuff I need to be aware of to jump from 2.0 to 3.0? Any insight is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Talal
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." --Rich Cook
All you really needed to download was this: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=10CC340B-F857-4A14-83F5-25634C3BF043&displaylang=en[^] which then pulls down and installs the other bits it needs - just tens of MB. Then, as described below, download and install the additional extensions. WCF and WPF are still in CTP. However, you can probably still do useful work without them, at least for WCF.
Kevin