Cut/Copy without selection
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How do I turn this feature off? I use the clipboard religiously, but sometimes I forget to make a selection and end up either copying the entire line (without realising) or cut a line and don't notice - this is getting really annoying! Arrrgggggh. ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
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How do I turn this feature off? I use the clipboard religiously, but sometimes I forget to make a selection and end up either copying the entire line (without realising) or cut a line and don't notice - this is getting really annoying! Arrrgggggh. ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
Dave I never noticed this feature! You mean to say, if you copy/cut without making a selection, you still copy/cut something??? Nish
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Dave I never noticed this feature! You mean to say, if you copy/cut without making a selection, you still copy/cut something??? Nish
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: You mean to say, if you copy/cut without making a selection, you still copy/cut something??? Yes, the entire line. It is incredibly annoying and in my eyes totally uninuative and counterproducitve, but hey, it's there all right. :(( ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
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Dave I never noticed this feature! You mean to say, if you copy/cut without making a selection, you still copy/cut something??? Nish
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: I never noticed this feature! You mean to say, if you copy/cut without making a selection, you still copy/cut something??? I never noticed it either. Strange.
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: You mean to say, if you copy/cut without making a selection, you still copy/cut something??? Yes, the entire line. It is incredibly annoying and in my eyes totally uninuative and counterproducitve, but hey, it's there all right. :(( ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
David Wulff wrote: Yes, the entire line. It is incredibly annoying and in my eyes totally uninuative and counterproducitve, but hey, it's there all right. Ditto. This "feature" used to be available in VC6 too, but you could turn it off. Can't do that anymore in VC7. They should fix it.
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David Wulff wrote: Yes, the entire line. It is incredibly annoying and in my eyes totally uninuative and counterproducitve, but hey, it's there all right. Ditto. This "feature" used to be available in VC6 too, but you could turn it off. Can't do that anymore in VC7. They should fix it.
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: You mean to say, if you copy/cut without making a selection, you still copy/cut something??? Yes, the entire line. It is incredibly annoying and in my eyes totally uninuative and counterproducitve, but hey, it's there all right. :(( ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
I actually think it's an excellent feature but there would be no harm in being able to disable it though. However, how do you ever accidentally copy/cut a line when you don't mean to? If you only want to copy a selection this seems to me something that you can't accidentally mix up with a whole line copy. Kevin
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I actually think it's an excellent feature but there would be no harm in being able to disable it though. However, how do you ever accidentally copy/cut a line when you don't mean to? If you only want to copy a selection this seems to me something that you can't accidentally mix up with a whole line copy. Kevin
Kevin McFarlane wrote: If you only want to copy a selection this seems to me something that you can't accidentally mix up with a whole line copy. It is all too easy I'm afraid. I use the clipboard religiously when I use any application, and CTRL+C and CTRL+V are second nature to me. However, it is also all too easy to press CTRL+C instead of CTRL+V, and if you don't have a selection, instead of doing nothing (and reminding you that once again you have strayed off of your home keys), it replaces the data on the clipboard with new data that I don't want. If I want to copy something, I will select it - copy without selection makes no sense whatsoever. ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
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Kevin McFarlane wrote: If you only want to copy a selection this seems to me something that you can't accidentally mix up with a whole line copy. It is all too easy I'm afraid. I use the clipboard religiously when I use any application, and CTRL+C and CTRL+V are second nature to me. However, it is also all too easy to press CTRL+C instead of CTRL+V, and if you don't have a selection, instead of doing nothing (and reminding you that once again you have strayed off of your home keys), it replaces the data on the clipboard with new data that I don't want. If I want to copy something, I will select it - copy without selection makes no sense whatsoever. ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
David, I see what you mean now. However, my editing style is such that this generally doesn't happen to me. I use drag and drop editing quite a lot. Nonetheless I've found the shortcut copy functionality more of a plus than a minus. I very frequently copy and paste single lines and it's very convenient to be able to copy and paste with the cursor anywhere on the line. But I agree you should be able to turn this functionality off. To ameliorate your problem, have you tried the multiple clipboard functionality - Ctrl+Shift+V, which cycles through the stuff on the clipboard? Kevin
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David, I see what you mean now. However, my editing style is such that this generally doesn't happen to me. I use drag and drop editing quite a lot. Nonetheless I've found the shortcut copy functionality more of a plus than a minus. I very frequently copy and paste single lines and it's very convenient to be able to copy and paste with the cursor anywhere on the line. But I agree you should be able to turn this functionality off. To ameliorate your problem, have you tried the multiple clipboard functionality - Ctrl+Shift+V, which cycles through the stuff on the clipboard? Kevin
Unfortunately, the fact that the clipboard is second nature to me means I have extreme difficulty using it any other way than I normally do. With Dreamweaver 3, the default CTRL+C and CTRL+V commands copied and pasted the HTML behind your selection rather than the selection itself, with the SHIFT modifier used to toggle normal clipboard operations. They were forced to switch these over in future editions because they founs out the hard way that you cannot change a person's daily habbits so easily. Can you imagine having to hold down SHIFT to execute CTRL+S? They intorduced multiple clipboards with Office XP, and I have to tell you, that is the only feature comon to Office XP that I honestly detest. It is, for me, totally illogical and leads to a complete productivity stop as I sort through the lists for the one I want. I want a clipboard to be like a sticky note in real life - I copy a piece oif useful information to it and stick it on the top of my monitor where I can easily retrieve it - I do not want to have to sort through a notebook. However, thanks for the suggestions! :) ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
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Unfortunately, the fact that the clipboard is second nature to me means I have extreme difficulty using it any other way than I normally do. With Dreamweaver 3, the default CTRL+C and CTRL+V commands copied and pasted the HTML behind your selection rather than the selection itself, with the SHIFT modifier used to toggle normal clipboard operations. They were forced to switch these over in future editions because they founs out the hard way that you cannot change a person's daily habbits so easily. Can you imagine having to hold down SHIFT to execute CTRL+S? They intorduced multiple clipboards with Office XP, and I have to tell you, that is the only feature comon to Office XP that I honestly detest. It is, for me, totally illogical and leads to a complete productivity stop as I sort through the lists for the one I want. I want a clipboard to be like a sticky note in real life - I copy a piece oif useful information to it and stick it on the top of my monitor where I can easily retrieve it - I do not want to have to sort through a notebook. However, thanks for the suggestions! :) ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
The multiple clipboard feature works in a much more usable way in VS than it does in Office 2000/XP. I think this feature (in VS, at least) is very useful. Presumably lots of others do or they wouldn't have introduced it. It's not intrusive in the sense that you don't notice it if you don't use it, so it doesn't interfere with your normal copy and paste. However, different users have different preferences and that's why MS products are so bloated. Supposedly most of us only use 5% of the functionality of MS Office but we all use a different 5% according to MS. Whenever I was in a team of developers using VC6 I generally found that no two developers were using the IDE in quite the same way. That's why you need lots of flexibility and it should be customisable. No doubt there's probably some undocumented way of disabling the "copy without selection" feature. (You're the only person I've come across who's complained about it, BTW.) Kevin