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  • M Mike Gaskey

    Ed Gadziemski wrote:

    Let's see if I can find any posts where you describe "leftists" who said what Ron Paul did as merely expressing a difference of opinion.

    I doubt I said anything on Ron Paul. Actualy, except for his stance on intervention I agree with an awful lot of his views.

    Ed Gadziemski wrote:

    The post title was a wordplay on the "they hate us because"

    AN I was pulling your chain, mostly. I really wanted to highlight the difference in approaches of FNC v. MSNBC.

    Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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    Mike Gaskey wrote:

    I doubt I said anything on Ron Paul

    Not on Ron himself, but on a lib who used similar words. What was your opinion when Bill Maher or Michael Moore said our interventionism in foreign lands contributed to the 9/11 attack? Was it just a differing opinion when Bill and Mike said it?

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      This seems to be the full exchange...[^]

      Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video) Surah Al-An'aam (Ayah 74-110)

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      I have no sound capability on my computer.

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      • E Ed Gadziemski

        Mike Gaskey wrote:

        I doubt I said anything on Ron Paul

        Not on Ron himself, but on a lib who used similar words. What was your opinion when Bill Maher or Michael Moore said our interventionism in foreign lands contributed to the 9/11 attack? Was it just a differing opinion when Bill and Mike said it?

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        Mike Gaskey
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        Ed Gadziemski wrote:

        What was your opinion when Bill Maher or Michael Moore said our interventionism in foreign lands contributed to the 9/11 attack?

        I don't agree and probably don't disagree. My opinion is it isn't material. As a world power you are obligated to to do some level of intervention as protection for allies and as premption. I don't for a minute believe 9-11 is a response to any intevention, but rather a function of an Islamic desire to cow a world power with (their view) a degenerate society.

        Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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        • M Mike Gaskey

          Ed Gadziemski wrote:

          What was your opinion when Bill Maher or Michael Moore said our interventionism in foreign lands contributed to the 9/11 attack?

          I don't agree and probably don't disagree. My opinion is it isn't material. As a world power you are obligated to to do some level of intervention as protection for allies and as premption. I don't for a minute believe 9-11 is a response to any intevention, but rather a function of an Islamic desire to cow a world power with (their view) a degenerate society.

          Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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          Alvaro Mendez
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          Mike Gaskey wrote:

          I don't for a minute believe 9-11 is a response to any intevention

          What about our intervention in Saudi Arabia? Wasn't Osama pissed about that?


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            Mike Gaskey wrote:

            I don't for a minute believe 9-11 is a response to any intevention

            What about our intervention in Saudi Arabia? Wasn't Osama pissed about that?


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            Alvaro Mendez wrote:

            What about our intervention in Saudi Arabia?

            We built a base but haven't intervened in Saudi affairs.

            Alvaro Mendez wrote:

            Wasn't Osama pissed about that?

            possibly. if what I read is corect, he's pissed about non-Muslims in Muslim land. I suspect that extends to Shiites as well.

            Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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            • R Red Stateler

              Rudy will be our next president.

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              The reality is that it probably will happen (IMHO). The following may be sexist and racist, but this is how I see it: People are now wanting to vote for any viable Democratic Party candidate, but if the democrats don't come up with a viable ticket, they will lose decisively. At the beginning of the year, we had a Super Bowl with 2 African-American coaches. It was made up as a historical event. How do we go from having 2 coaches of color to the first African-American President. I don't think the country is ready for it. Secondly, history repeats itself. Remember Geraldine Ferraro? Remember that ticket? The final tally was a 49 states to 1 blowout. Stop with the gimmick ticket, and come up with a viable Presidential Candidate, or lose an election that is almost being handed to them.

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