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    MatrixCoder
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    After buying a new CD from Wal-Mart I went and downloaded some free bonus songs that came with it. But after downloading it locked up MediaMonkey and WMP trying to play them because of some stupid DRM protection. I tried a few converters but all they did was crash too. So basically I can't even play the free songs I got. I hate this Digital Rights Management crud! X| Does anyone have any suggestions?


    Trinity: Neo... nobody has ever done this before. Neo: That's why it's going to work.

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      After buying a new CD from Wal-Mart I went and downloaded some free bonus songs that came with it. But after downloading it locked up MediaMonkey and WMP trying to play them because of some stupid DRM protection. I tried a few converters but all they did was crash too. So basically I can't even play the free songs I got. I hate this Digital Rights Management crud! X| Does anyone have any suggestions?


      Trinity: Neo... nobody has ever done this before. Neo: That's why it's going to work.

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      Christian Graus
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      One has to presume that this is not what happens for most people. I agree tho. It's plain as day that I can download all the CDs I want, and they can never stop it, I mean, I am listening to a CD right now, if I plug into the headphone jack and capture the audio on a PC, what can be done to prevent that ? So, the 15 odd CDs I expect to get in the mail this week, were all bought because I WANT to support artists. Why fight me when I'm trying to do the right thing ?

      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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        After buying a new CD from Wal-Mart I went and downloaded some free bonus songs that came with it. But after downloading it locked up MediaMonkey and WMP trying to play them because of some stupid DRM protection. I tried a few converters but all they did was crash too. So basically I can't even play the free songs I got. I hate this Digital Rights Management crud! X| Does anyone have any suggestions?


        Trinity: Neo... nobody has ever done this before. Neo: That's why it's going to work.

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        Lost User
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        Quote: Does anyone have any suggestions? www.demonoid.com

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          After buying a new CD from Wal-Mart I went and downloaded some free bonus songs that came with it. But after downloading it locked up MediaMonkey and WMP trying to play them because of some stupid DRM protection. I tried a few converters but all they did was crash too. So basically I can't even play the free songs I got. I hate this Digital Rights Management crud! X| Does anyone have any suggestions?


          Trinity: Neo... nobody has ever done this before. Neo: That's why it's going to work.

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          MatrixCoder
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          Well I found this in Maximum PC: FairUse4WM. But since I have WMP11 installed, I'll have to see if my friend can decrypt the files since he's running WMP10. Wow, an entire hour spent trying to play my free music, that's the last time I go through Wal-Mart for music.


          Trinity: Neo... nobody has ever done this before. Neo: That's why it's going to work.

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            One has to presume that this is not what happens for most people. I agree tho. It's plain as day that I can download all the CDs I want, and they can never stop it, I mean, I am listening to a CD right now, if I plug into the headphone jack and capture the audio on a PC, what can be done to prevent that ? So, the 15 odd CDs I expect to get in the mail this week, were all bought because I WANT to support artists. Why fight me when I'm trying to do the right thing ?

            Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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            Christian Graus wrote:

            I am listening to a CD right now, if I plug into the headphone jack and capture the audio on a PC, what can be done to prevent that ?

            What could prevent you from playing your music on your computer is the requirement of special hardware and software that requires encrypted connections among all your media devices and the software to support it, kind of like with HD-DVD and BluRay.

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              Quote: Does anyone have any suggestions? www.demonoid.com

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              Well, I have to register to do anything on that site so I cant see what it has to offer. However it didn't completely waste my time because they have some nice pics.

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                Well, I have to register to do anything on that site so I cant see what it has to offer. However it didn't completely waste my time because they have some nice pics.

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                They have tons of music torrents you can download. I can give you and invite code if you would like.

                The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams

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                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  I am listening to a CD right now, if I plug into the headphone jack and capture the audio on a PC, what can be done to prevent that ?

                  What could prevent you from playing your music on your computer is the requirement of special hardware and software that requires encrypted connections among all your media devices and the software to support it, kind of like with HD-DVD and BluRay.

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                  No. What Christian is talking about is the "analog hole" - analog recordings of reproductions are explicitly protected by the courts. It is the one thing that can never (currently) be DRM'd. Plus, the special hardware requirements are bleeding-edge new, DRM encumbered hardware is just beginning to come out. And the vast majority of studios have said they won't implement it yet (obviously, so that people will all have DRM-encumbered hardware when they finally decide to turn it on - if they turned it on now, people would get so angry immediately that it would never take hold).


                  Cheers,

                  Patrick

                  I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

                  Stephen F Roberts

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                    Well I found this in Maximum PC: FairUse4WM. But since I have WMP11 installed, I'll have to see if my friend can decrypt the files since he's running WMP10. Wow, an entire hour spent trying to play my free music, that's the last time I go through Wal-Mart for music.


                    Trinity: Neo... nobody has ever done this before. Neo: That's why it's going to work.

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                    Patrick Etc
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                    Recently an RIAA executive suggested renaming DRM to "Consumer Content Enablement" because he thinks they're simply losing the PR naming battle. So do you feel "enabled" yet?! Stupid crocks got their head so far up their bleeps.. What an age we live in, when we're treated like a criminal for legally buying things in stores like any common thief. Oh, wait..


                    Cheers,

                    Patrick

                    I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

                    Stephen F Roberts

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                      No. What Christian is talking about is the "analog hole" - analog recordings of reproductions are explicitly protected by the courts. It is the one thing that can never (currently) be DRM'd. Plus, the special hardware requirements are bleeding-edge new, DRM encumbered hardware is just beginning to come out. And the vast majority of studios have said they won't implement it yet (obviously, so that people will all have DRM-encumbered hardware when they finally decide to turn it on - if they turned it on now, people would get so angry immediately that it would never take hold).


                      Cheers,

                      Patrick

                      I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

                      Stephen F Roberts

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                      Patrick Sears wrote:

                      Plus, the special hardware requirements are bleeding-edge new, DRM encumbered hardware is just beginning to come out. And the vast majority of studios have said they won't implement it yet (obviously, so that people will all have DRM-encumbered hardware when they finally decide to turn it on - if they turned it on now, people would get so angry immediately that it would never take hold).

                      So you are saying you don't currently need a monitor that supports the encrypted signal or a graphics card that has the HDMI output?

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                        They have tons of music torrents you can download. I can give you and invite code if you would like.

                        The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams

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                        Really? I remember you bursting out some comment in the lounge. In my thread about Intel motherboards vs other motherboards, you asked this question "What is the matter, you cant find one to download illegally?" You meant it as an insult, however now you are promoting a file sharing site and its use for downloading music. Thats interesting. I would like an invite code though.

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                          Recently an RIAA executive suggested renaming DRM to "Consumer Content Enablement" because he thinks they're simply losing the PR naming battle. So do you feel "enabled" yet?! Stupid crocks got their head so far up their bleeps.. What an age we live in, when we're treated like a criminal for legally buying things in stores like any common thief. Oh, wait..


                          Cheers,

                          Patrick

                          I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

                          Stephen F Roberts

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                          Patrick Sears wrote:

                          Oh, wait..

                          :confused: What are we waiting on?

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                            Patrick Sears wrote:

                            Plus, the special hardware requirements are bleeding-edge new, DRM encumbered hardware is just beginning to come out. And the vast majority of studios have said they won't implement it yet (obviously, so that people will all have DRM-encumbered hardware when they finally decide to turn it on - if they turned it on now, people would get so angry immediately that it would never take hold).

                            So you are saying you don't currently need a monitor that supports the encrypted signal or a graphics card that has the HDMI output?

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                            Patrick Etc
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                            Captain See Sharp wrote:

                            So you are saying you don't currently need a monitor that supports the encrypted signal or a graphics card that has the HDMI output?

                            No, actually, I don't. You do if you run Vista [snicker] but I'm very happy with XP Pro, but that's beside the point. Also, Vista does this regardless of whether or not your media actually has any DRM! Bloody retarded.. At any rate, it still won't plug the analog hole.


                            Cheers,

                            Patrick

                            I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

                            Stephen F Roberts

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                              Patrick Sears wrote:

                              Oh, wait..

                              :confused: What are we waiting on?

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                              Patrick Etc
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                              Captain See Sharp wrote:

                              What are we waiting on?

                              This whole DRM thing to go away so we can return to the realm of quasi-sanity..


                              Cheers,

                              Patrick

                              I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

                              Stephen F Roberts

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                                After buying a new CD from Wal-Mart I went and downloaded some free bonus songs that came with it. But after downloading it locked up MediaMonkey and WMP trying to play them because of some stupid DRM protection. I tried a few converters but all they did was crash too. So basically I can't even play the free songs I got. I hate this Digital Rights Management crud! X| Does anyone have any suggestions?


                                Trinity: Neo... nobody has ever done this before. Neo: That's why it's going to work.

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                                Kevin McFarlane
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                                Let's see how this DRM-free EMI/Apple thing works. http://www.emigroup.com/Press/2007/press18.htm[^]

                                Kevin

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                                  After buying a new CD from Wal-Mart I went and downloaded some free bonus songs that came with it. But after downloading it locked up MediaMonkey and WMP trying to play them because of some stupid DRM protection. I tried a few converters but all they did was crash too. So basically I can't even play the free songs I got. I hate this Digital Rights Management crud! X| Does anyone have any suggestions?


                                  Trinity: Neo... nobody has ever done this before. Neo: That's why it's going to work.

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                                  Indivara
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                                  MatrixCoder wrote:

                                  crud

                                  No, its crap[^]


                                  CP members on Frappr[^]

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                                  • M MatrixCoder

                                    After buying a new CD from Wal-Mart I went and downloaded some free bonus songs that came with it. But after downloading it locked up MediaMonkey and WMP trying to play them because of some stupid DRM protection. I tried a few converters but all they did was crash too. So basically I can't even play the free songs I got. I hate this Digital Rights Management crud! X| Does anyone have any suggestions?


                                    Trinity: Neo... nobody has ever done this before. Neo: That's why it's going to work.

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                                    ednrgc
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                                    Bring it back to the store. Tell them you can't play because of the DRM protection on the CD.

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                                      After buying a new CD from Wal-Mart I went and downloaded some free bonus songs that came with it. But after downloading it locked up MediaMonkey and WMP trying to play them because of some stupid DRM protection. I tried a few converters but all they did was crash too. So basically I can't even play the free songs I got. I hate this Digital Rights Management crud! X| Does anyone have any suggestions?


                                      Trinity: Neo... nobody has ever done this before. Neo: That's why it's going to work.

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                                      JimmyRopes
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                                      MatrixCoder wrote:

                                      Does anyone have any suggestions?

                                      Linux! MAC! :doh:

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                                        Captain See Sharp wrote:

                                        So you are saying you don't currently need a monitor that supports the encrypted signal or a graphics card that has the HDMI output?

                                        No, actually, I don't. You do if you run Vista [snicker] but I'm very happy with XP Pro, but that's beside the point. Also, Vista does this regardless of whether or not your media actually has any DRM! Bloody retarded.. At any rate, it still won't plug the analog hole.


                                        Cheers,

                                        Patrick

                                        I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

                                        Stephen F Roberts

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                                        Mike Dimmick
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                                        Patrick Sears wrote:

                                        Also, Vista does this regardless of whether or not your media actually has any DRM!

                                        Nope. Only applies if the media has the appropriate form of DRM and has the 'downgrade outputs' flag enabled. Which basically means HD digital cable, HD-DVD or Blu-Ray. It does not apply to legacy (e.g. DVD) playback. Microsoft are not completely retarded. The condition the movie studios put on permitting software playback of HD-DVD and Blu-Ray was that this 'secure' path was included in the OS. If the flag is set (not currently used, apparently), non-HDCP digital connections are disabled outright, and analogue connections are downscaled to some rubbish resolution - 800x600 or something like that, I forget.

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                                          Really? I remember you bursting out some comment in the lounge. In my thread about Intel motherboards vs other motherboards, you asked this question "What is the matter, you cant find one to download illegally?" You meant it as an insult, however now you are promoting a file sharing site and its use for downloading music. Thats interesting. I would like an invite code though.

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                                          Here is the code: k4o6a7jdm37

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