Hiring the wrong people
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So you think making people wait a few minutes to load a Flash intro is solid UI Design? This is what you were trained for? And, ok, you can make the blades of grass move about. And your links move. But really what I think you are getting at is Graphic Design similar to what you'd get with a magazine. For UI in a desktop app hiring a designer is overkill. For governing the overall graphic design and layout of a website is different and more akin to magazine layout. In that regard I would agree a specialist would be beneficial but only if your site warrants it. It doesn't sound like Ed's project is what you are talking about. For a standard GUI the lead engineer is more than apt at design.
This statement was never false.
ACTUALLY, I didnt do our internal site. I had a small hand in it (mainly in our client support side which you wouldnt have access to as well as a fair amount of actionscript) The reason for the long load time is because the intro is actually a movie produced in after effects. Anyways I understand hes most likely talking about programming so ill explain that in the post below. Lastly id like to see you do any of that with flash using actionscript to animate lol
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Ah, well now if you are talking about art design that's a different thing. I was talking about programming design. I would of coarse hire an artist for graphic art stuff.
Ya I figured that, at least your not getting all offended over my comment, I wasn't trying to blast you or anything. Anyways, I just wanted you to know that we're developing a medical imaging system application and for the first time, it's UI was headed by the design team in conjunction with the programmers and thier experience in application UI. Suprisingly what we have so far is similar to what you saw in graphical difference between office 2000 and office 2007. The new office looks like it had a stong designer presence during the development. This is what I meant by why you would need us. I mean you could do it yourself, we just find that people are tired of the same old ugly gray applications. Bringing a designer into the mix essentially gives you access to new innovative UI like you found in the new Office apps. And as you can see by our company name, innovation is key to our success. But thats just us, the same old works well for others. Another example is is the new MSN, do you think the developers came up with that look on thier own bases soley on application development experience? I personally highly doubit it. Get what I mean now? Even in application development theres more use for us than just building your splash screen images lol. -- modified at 11:33 Thursday 7th June, 2007
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This is something I got to get off my chest. Supposing you want to put together a small development team, who would you hire? The company that I work for hires the following: A project manager, a designer, and some programmers. Each one having a higher pay level and seniority. The programmers in this hierarchy are on the bottom rung and have no say in anything. This is the most ridiculous crudgy inefficient hierarchy you could possibly devise. There is no justified reason for it. It's just done that way becuase "that's always the way they do it" How would I do it? Just examine what you need for the project, then hire based on the needs. Base the team on maybe one, or two senior developers. They would be good and be able to do all technical aspects, analysis, design, program and manage both themselves and the project and also specify the tools that they need for the job. Then, maybe a few inexperienced programmers. They would be supervised by the senior programmers and would learn from them. One of the senior guys would do the project management part time (maybe even rotating the task). Good experienced developers are able to management themselves mostly and having a dedicated project manager is redundant at best. At worst, they get in the way. This team would be half the size and twice as efficient as the one mentioned above. Don't forget the bottom line: money. The revenue from the successful project has to pay the salery of everyone
I'm in a small team of 4 programmers, working with a project of about 2500 Java classes, enjoying life. I think we've got it about right - 2 junior devs, 1 senior dev, and the team leader... ...who's a very strong personality, and he stops crap from other departments getting us stressed with absurd deadlines or red-tape. What I really like is that all four of us can communicate clearly. The bigger a team gets, the more chance of getting a tosser who causes bad feeling by avoiding certain tasks or lying..... I reckon it's hard to pick 7 people at random without getting a tosser. So keep the team small, and avoid religion in the office.
'All there really is, is: virtue and vice' ...Black Crowes
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Don’t forget the project manager must be PMP certified, you can’t start a project with out a PMP certified project manager. You also forgot the zampolit (aka security analyst), the documentation specialist, the configuration management toad, oh and the IT services department representative. This is all very necessary even if project is less than 2k lines of code. Yes this is how it is in government.
MrPlankton
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MrPlankton wrote:
you can’t start a project with out a PMP certified project manager
Pardonthe seemingly stupid question. :-O "What is a PMP?" :doh: :confused:
http://www.pmi.org/info/default.asp
MrPlankton