VB as a tool
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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: Maybe I should have said: "I really fail to understand why there is no decent RAD environment for C++." Point well taken.:)
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David Stone wrote: Of course, I use VB.Net, so I am just as effective as any of you are. As effective as any C# programmers you mean ? Or any other CLR language except C++. Managed C++ is in fact faster than VB/C#, it is optimised. And native C++ canes them all. But as I often say to Paul Watson ( who uses VB ), just because you've made a poor choice in terms of programming language does not mean we think any less of you, so don't fret about it :-) Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002
Argghhh...this didn't reply to my post. It replied to the post under it. This happened to me earlier. Wonder why. Oh well. I forgot that Paul does VB too. David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
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Is the general concensus on CP that VB is an inferior language. or Does anybody look at it as a tool that can be used effectively under the right circumstances?
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Light a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life!I think both your points are correct. VB is an inferior language, but as a quick and dirty testing tool for COM components written in C++ it's damn good. It's lack of unsigned integers or longs is a complete pain in the ass for a lot of work i've ever done with it.
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Is the general concensus on CP that VB is an inferior language. or Does anybody look at it as a tool that can be used effectively under the right circumstances?
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Light a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life!I've dissed VB in the past - sometimes fairly, sometimes unfairly. My view is that VB is like a nice big meaty sledgehammer. You can get a ton of stuff done really quickly but it's sometimes tricky to get the fiddly bits right. In that respect it's a wonderful tool. As a language I think it's time it was retired. It's too hobbled and compromised by legacy issues. Why have VB when C# is available? cheers, Chris Maunder
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I've dissed VB in the past - sometimes fairly, sometimes unfairly. My view is that VB is like a nice big meaty sledgehammer. You can get a ton of stuff done really quickly but it's sometimes tricky to get the fiddly bits right. In that respect it's a wonderful tool. As a language I think it's time it was retired. It's too hobbled and compromised by legacy issues. Why have VB when C# is available? cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: I've dissed VB in the past - sometimes fairly, sometimes unfairly. I agree fully. Coopers, Cascade, Boags etc. are much better IMNSHO. :-D Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "In Summer, I like to dance naked on the roof to celebrate the event of the temperature finally falling below 40C (usually about midnight). But the neighbors have lately taken up the habit of staying up late. And looking up, at times, from their dreary, pointless lives..." - Roger Wright 15/05/2002
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Chris Maunder wrote: I've dissed VB in the past - sometimes fairly, sometimes unfairly. I agree fully. Coopers, Cascade, Boags etc. are much better IMNSHO. :-D Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "In Summer, I like to dance naked on the roof to celebrate the event of the temperature finally falling below 40C (usually about midnight). But the neighbors have lately taken up the habit of staying up late. And looking up, at times, from their dreary, pointless lives..." - Roger Wright 15/05/2002
I had a cascade (actually a few of 'em) for the first time in ages on Saturday. Not as good as I remember them to be. James Squire and Bavaria is probably my pick at the moment. cheers, Chris Maunder
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I had a cascade (actually a few of 'em) for the first time in ages on Saturday. Not as good as I remember them to be. James Squire and Bavaria is probably my pick at the moment. cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: I had a cascade (actually a few of 'em) for the first time in ages on Saturday. Not as good as I remember them to be. James Squire and Bavaria is probably my pick at the moment. James Squire is good especially the Porter but it is a bit on the expensive side and you can't buy it by the case for a decent price that I have found. If you like Bavaria have you tried Hollandia the other cheap imported beer from the Netherlands. I have been drinking Raffles (from Singapoer) of late as I can get 2 x 12 pack for $20.00 and it is a pleasant tasting beer. Still if I could only drink one beer forever more I would have to be Coopers Extra Stout if bottled was chosen or the Old Admiral from the Lord Nelson if tap beer was up. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "In Summer, I like to dance naked on the roof to celebrate the event of the temperature finally falling below 40C (usually about midnight). But the neighbors have lately taken up the habit of staying up late. And looking up, at times, from their dreary, pointless lives..." - Roger Wright 15/05/2002
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Is the general concensus on CP that VB is an inferior language. or Does anybody look at it as a tool that can be used effectively under the right circumstances?
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Light a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life!I consider it an inferior language, but it can still be used effectively under the right circumstances. Bruce Duncan CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
Hi everyone. My name's Bruce. And I suffer from VB. -
VB as a language is inferior, but as a RAD tool can be very useful sometimes. I really fail to understand why there is no real RAD environment for C++. :confused: I vote pro drink :beer:
Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: I really fail to understand why there is no real RAD environment for C++. I think a lot of it has to do with the mindset of a C++ programmer, or at least those of us who have been using C++ in the days before windows. I find the RAD tools get in my way more than they help, but thats because old habits die hard. Michael :-)
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Is the general concensus on CP that VB is an inferior language. or Does anybody look at it as a tool that can be used effectively under the right circumstances?
Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for a day
Light a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life!