Sick People Should Stay At Home
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[more ranting] Indeed they should. But employers often make you feel guilty about taking time off, and sick time is nowadays combined with vacation time. But why do you think we have an huge industry on "feel better" pills? It's so we can shove ourselves and our kids off to work or school. My gf sees it all the time--3 and 4 year olds being dropped off at 7 AM with their symptoms masked by being pumped up on children's Tylenol, and by noon they're spiking fevers and having tantrums. Call the parents, and they show up three hours later. [/more ranting] Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
3 and 4 year olds being dropped off at 7 AM with their symptoms masked by being pumped up on children's Tylenol
Some companies do allow you to take sick leave for sickness in the family, not mine. Fortunately my wife's company does and she doesn't have to tell her manager if she is taking an hour or two for doctor's appointment.
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[more ranting] Indeed they should. But employers often make you feel guilty about taking time off, and sick time is nowadays combined with vacation time. But why do you think we have an huge industry on "feel better" pills? It's so we can shove ourselves and our kids off to work or school. My gf sees it all the time--3 and 4 year olds being dropped off at 7 AM with their symptoms masked by being pumped up on children's Tylenol, and by noon they're spiking fevers and having tantrums. Call the parents, and they show up three hours later. [/more ranting] Marc
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Malcolm Smart wrote:
Two weeks ago, a colleague sat opposite me, next to me in meetings etc, and basically sneezed, coughed and snotted his way through the week
You can do the same and still earn your contract rate, can't you? Maybe your colleague has the same complaint that someone else passed the sickness to him? At my company there is a unpopular policy of discouraging people using sick leaves: if you take a sick leave without notifying the management 48 hours in advance, it will be counted against you in dependency rating at annual review. It is outrageous, I know. Who, except Chuck Norris of course, would know that he is going to be sick 48 hours in advance?
Xiangyang Liu wrote:
if you take a sick leave without notifying the management 48 hours in advance, it will be counted against you
In most places notifying them in advance would be heavily used against you. How can you know you are going to be sick? That's like saying, "Boss, I'm going to be sick on Monday."
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Xiangyang Liu wrote:
if you take a sick leave without notifying the management 48 hours in advance, it will be counted against you
In most places notifying them in advance would be heavily used against you. How can you know you are going to be sick? That's like saying, "Boss, I'm going to be sick on Monday."
We have to make a doctors appointment at least 2 days in advance to have any chance of seeing them. Tempted to book a few in in advance, just in case.
"More functions should disregard input values and just return 12. It would make life easier." - comment posted on WTF
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Xiangyang Liu wrote:
if you take a sick leave without notifying the management 48 hours in advance, it will be counted against you
In most places notifying them in advance would be heavily used against you. How can you know you are going to be sick? That's like saying, "Boss, I'm going to be sick on Monday."
Brady Kelly wrote:
How can you know you are going to be sick?
Actually, it is meant for scheduled appointment, etc. You can still take sick leave if you are sick, just that it will be counted against you in dependency rating calculation. If your dependency rating drops to a point, you can forget about any raise. If an employee says "I am going to be sick tomorrow" in my company, then dependency rating is the least he should be worrying about.
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I've caught my first cold in nearly 3 years. Two weeks ago, a colleague sat opposite me, next to me in meetings etc, and basically sneezed, coughed and snotted his way through the week. Nice one. Now, me being a contractor on a day rate, hypocrisy might kick in as I can't afford the time off at the moment!
"More functions should disregard input values and just return 12. It would make life easier." - comment posted on WTF
Agreed! I hate sick people at work. Even if I don't catch what they have, I feel sick just listening to the bodily functions. That said, I'm at home with the flu right now.
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Agreed! I hate sick people at work. Even if I don't catch what they have, I feel sick just listening to the bodily functions. That said, I'm at home with the flu right now.
"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen."
- Edward V. BerardYes, but you're at home. I agree about the bodily function noises, it's disgusting.
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I've caught my first cold in nearly 3 years. Two weeks ago, a colleague sat opposite me, next to me in meetings etc, and basically sneezed, coughed and snotted his way through the week. Nice one. Now, me being a contractor on a day rate, hypocrisy might kick in as I can't afford the time off at the moment!
"More functions should disregard input values and just return 12. It would make life easier." - comment posted on WTF
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I've caught my first cold in nearly 3 years. Two weeks ago, a colleague sat opposite me, next to me in meetings etc, and basically sneezed, coughed and snotted his way through the week. Nice one. Now, me being a contractor on a day rate, hypocrisy might kick in as I can't afford the time off at the moment!
"More functions should disregard input values and just return 12. It would make life easier." - comment posted on WTF
In situations like this, it is not always appropriate to blame the sick person. Some companies limit**
(!)** your sick time, forcing you to lose vacation or other PTO time if you just happen to have a bad year (and kids in school, bringing home all kinds of ills can do that to you). So your choices are: lose vacation time, or come in sick. On top of limiting sick time, some companies, despite living inThe Internet Age, do not allow remote access and/or telecommuting**(!)**. Combine arbitrary milestones/deadlines and the inability to work from home, and again your only choice is to come in sick. Some other more enlightened companies realize that in today's cube-ridden (or XP's open-spaced) world, colds spread quickly and easily and it is better to keep someone home than to have them come in and get other people sick. Peace!-=- James
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Malcolm Smart wrote:
Two weeks ago, a colleague sat opposite me, next to me in meetings etc, and basically sneezed, coughed and snotted his way through the week
You can do the same and still earn your contract rate, can't you? Maybe your colleague has the same complaint that someone else passed the sickness to him? At my company there is a unpopular policy of discouraging people using sick leaves: if you take a sick leave without notifying the management 48 hours in advance, it will be counted against you in dependency rating at annual review. It is outrageous, I know. Who, except Chuck Norris of course, would know that he is going to be sick 48 hours in advance?
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I've caught my first cold in nearly 3 years. Two weeks ago, a colleague sat opposite me, next to me in meetings etc, and basically sneezed, coughed and snotted his way through the week. Nice one. Now, me being a contractor on a day rate, hypocrisy might kick in as I can't afford the time off at the moment!
"More functions should disregard input values and just return 12. It would make life easier." - comment posted on WTF
I got really sick not long after I started my current job. Not wanting to look bad right away I kept trying to come in, but my boss sent me home. I think he only made me take 2 sick days for the entire week. I agree with previous comments about using VPN access more. Most people who really want to work can get probably 90% of their job done via VPN access and a telephone.
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Malcolm Smart wrote:
Two weeks ago, a colleague sat opposite me, next to me in meetings etc, and basically sneezed, coughed and snotted his way through the week
You can do the same and still earn your contract rate, can't you? Maybe your colleague has the same complaint that someone else passed the sickness to him? At my company there is a unpopular policy of discouraging people using sick leaves: if you take a sick leave without notifying the management 48 hours in advance, it will be counted against you in dependency rating at annual review. It is outrageous, I know. Who, except Chuck Norris of course, would know that he is going to be sick 48 hours in advance?
Xiangyang Liu wrote:
At my company there is a unpopular policy of discouraging people using sick leaves
The company I work for is exactly the opposite. If you are sick and have the sick time they expect you to use it, thats why, they say, they give you 4 hours sick time a month
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I've caught my first cold in nearly 3 years. Two weeks ago, a colleague sat opposite me, next to me in meetings etc, and basically sneezed, coughed and snotted his way through the week. Nice one. Now, me being a contractor on a day rate, hypocrisy might kick in as I can't afford the time off at the moment!
"More functions should disregard input values and just return 12. It would make life easier." - comment posted on WTF
I agree 100% although there may be an occasional circumstance that merits coming in sick. The thing that gets me is that they usually come in sick because they don't want to use their sick/vacation time. But, they get you sick and guess what; now you have to use yours.:mad:
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I've caught my first cold in nearly 3 years. Two weeks ago, a colleague sat opposite me, next to me in meetings etc, and basically sneezed, coughed and snotted his way through the week. Nice one. Now, me being a contractor on a day rate, hypocrisy might kick in as I can't afford the time off at the moment!
"More functions should disregard input values and just return 12. It would make life easier." - comment posted on WTF
You need to train your immune system to stay alert. Consider the common cold as regular system maintenance.
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Malcolm Smart wrote:
Two weeks ago, a colleague sat opposite me, next to me in meetings etc, and basically sneezed, coughed and snotted his way through the week
You can do the same and still earn your contract rate, can't you? Maybe your colleague has the same complaint that someone else passed the sickness to him? At my company there is a unpopular policy of discouraging people using sick leaves: if you take a sick leave without notifying the management 48 hours in advance, it will be counted against you in dependency rating at annual review. It is outrageous, I know. Who, except Chuck Norris of course, would know that he is going to be sick 48 hours in advance?
Xiangyang Liu wrote:
if you take a sick leave without notifying the management 48 hours in advance, it will be counted against you in dependency rating at annual review
I personally would be looking for a new job. I did work at a place like that once, and they lost a good employee for that.
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Brady Kelly wrote:
How can you know you are going to be sick?
Actually, it is meant for scheduled appointment, etc. You can still take sick leave if you are sick, just that it will be counted against you in dependency rating calculation. If your dependency rating drops to a point, you can forget about any raise. If an employee says "I am going to be sick tomorrow" in my company, then dependency rating is the least he should be worrying about.
Xiangyang Liu wrote:
If an employee says "I am going to be sick tomorrow"
Yeah, the employee could actually be going for an interview for a job in a better work environment :rolleyes:
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I got really sick not long after I started my current job. Not wanting to look bad right away I kept trying to come in, but my boss sent me home. I think he only made me take 2 sick days for the entire week. I agree with previous comments about using VPN access more. Most people who really want to work can get probably 90% of their job done via VPN access and a telephone.
_____________________________________________ Flea Market! It's just like...it's just like...A MINI-MALL!
By any chance the Chatty Cathy's catch the bug and get sent home, or did they just chat and chat about how miserable they were?
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I've caught my first cold in nearly 3 years. Two weeks ago, a colleague sat opposite me, next to me in meetings etc, and basically sneezed, coughed and snotted his way through the week. Nice one. Now, me being a contractor on a day rate, hypocrisy might kick in as I can't afford the time off at the moment!
"More functions should disregard input values and just return 12. It would make life easier." - comment posted on WTF
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I've caught my first cold in nearly 3 years. Two weeks ago, a colleague sat opposite me, next to me in meetings etc, and basically sneezed, coughed and snotted his way through the week. Nice one. Now, me being a contractor on a day rate, hypocrisy might kick in as I can't afford the time off at the moment!
"More functions should disregard input values and just return 12. It would make life easier." - comment posted on WTF
Malcolm Smart wrote:
hypocrisy might kick in as I can't afford the time off at the moment
this is one of the more ironic statements.... And this is the ultimate problem. None of us can afford to be without pay. I have always stayed home when ill, used my leave, and even a couple of times used leave without pay.... But the latter is very hard. Now that I am married, the latter is impossible, money is stretched thin for the next year. The good news is in like 6-8 years (I forget which) my vacation goes up another week a year. But in the mean time, I stay home when I have leave, but when I do not have leave left... chances are I will be locked in my office, trying very hard not to breath on anyone. :)
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Xiangyang Liu wrote:
If an employee says "I am going to be sick tomorrow"
Yeah, the employee could actually be going for an interview for a job in a better work environment :rolleyes:
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Absolutely True.
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