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  • P Paul Conrad

    Minosknight wrote:

    this whole thing probably didn't set her up with a commodore 64

    :laugh: The old C64 would definitely bog everything down. I had a classmate at Cal State Univ. Fullerton who wrote a web browser for the C64, like 16 years ago :)

    "Any sort of work in VB6 is bound to provide several WTF moments." - Christian Graus

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    Minosknight
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    Haha genius, I would love to mess around with some of the old boxes I had.

    public static void DoSomething() { DoSomethingElse(); } public static void DoSomethingElse() { Dosomething(); }

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    • P Paul Conrad

      John M. Drescher wrote:

      I wonder if they also outfitted her with a computer that can handle 4GBytes / s data rate.

      I wondered about that myself. Computer would have to be a pretty recent set of hardware not to bog the connection down.

      "Any sort of work in VB6 is bound to provide several WTF moments." - Christian Graus

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      John M Drescher
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      Paul Conrad wrote:

      Computer would have to be a pretty recent sent of hardware not to bog the connection down.

      I have a hard time conceptualizing hardware that can handle that data rate with any current pc hardware. I mean would it be practical to have 50 SATA (or 30 15K SCSI) drives in RAID0 so they will be capable of writing data at > 4GB/s. Or will the machine have several TB of memory? Then there is the bus, ok 1 PCI-E 16 slot for the NIC, one for the hard drive array...

      John

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      • M Minosknight

        Haha genius, I would love to mess around with some of the old boxes I had.

        public static void DoSomething() { DoSomethingElse(); } public static void DoSomethingElse() { Dosomething(); }

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        Paul Conrad
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        Minosknight wrote:

        I would love to mess around with some of the old boxes I had.

        I still have my old C128 in the attic. Along with it's whopping 3160 block ( 790kb ) 3 1/2 floppy drive. I remember when that was pretty cool :laugh:

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        • M Minosknight

          I got T3 which can get up to around 45mbps but I had to get all sorts of things done to use it to any sort of its full capacity. Sometimes, its STILL not enough.

          public static void DoSomething() { DoSomethingElse(); } public static void DoSomethingElse() { Dosomething(); }

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          Paul Conrad
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          Minosknight wrote:

          I got T3 which can get up to around 45mbps

          Lucky you :) I think the problem is that Verzion doesn't see rural areas as being very marketable :sigh:

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          • J John M Drescher

            Paul Conrad wrote:

            Computer would have to be a pretty recent sent of hardware not to bog the connection down.

            I have a hard time conceptualizing hardware that can handle that data rate with any current pc hardware. I mean would it be practical to have 50 SATA (or 30 15K SCSI) drives in RAID0 so they will be capable of writing data at > 4GB/s. Or will the machine have several TB of memory? Then there is the bus, ok 1 PCI-E 16 slot for the NIC, one for the hard drive array...

            John

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            Paul Conrad
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            John M. Drescher wrote:

            I have a hard time conceptualizing hardware that can handle that data rate with any current pc hardware.

            I have a hard time seeing something powerful enough, especially for a user like the lady in the article.

            "Any sort of work in VB6 is bound to provide several WTF moments." - Christian Graus

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            • P Paul Conrad

              Minosknight wrote:

              I would love to mess around with some of the old boxes I had.

              I still have my old C128 in the attic. Along with it's whopping 3160 block ( 790kb ) 3 1/2 floppy drive. I remember when that was pretty cool :laugh:

              "Any sort of work in VB6 is bound to provide several WTF moments." - Christian Graus

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              Minosknight
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              I don't know what I did with mine. I'm actually kinda sad now. :((

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              • P Paul Conrad

                Minosknight wrote:

                I got T3 which can get up to around 45mbps

                Lucky you :) I think the problem is that Verzion doesn't see rural areas as being very marketable :sigh:

                "Any sort of work in VB6 is bound to provide several WTF moments." - Christian Graus

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                Minosknight
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                Maybe its time to consider a new isp then! I used to have Earthlink, they aren't bad. They had coverage almost everywhere.

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                • M Minosknight

                  Maybe its time to consider a new isp then! I used to have Earthlink, they aren't bad. They had coverage almost everywhere.

                  public static void DoSomething() { DoSomethingElse(); } public static void DoSomethingElse() { Dosomething(); }

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                  Paul Conrad
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                  Minosknight wrote:

                  I used to have Earthlink

                  Same here. But wouldn't it ultimately boil down to Verizon hardware, irregardless of ISP? I looked at Linkline a few years ago.

                  "Any sort of work in VB6 is bound to provide several WTF moments." - Christian Graus

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                  • J JimmyRopes

                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    In less than 2 seconds, Lothberg can download a full-length movie on her home computer The battle between the user's bandwidth capability and the content provider begins.

                    They should have said theoretically less than 2 seconds. In reality no server on the public internet serves up content at that speed.

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                    peterchen
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                    • D Dave Kreskowiak

                      Swedish woman gets superfast Internet[^] :omg: and she just reads web-based newspapers with it! :wtf:

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                      martin_hughes
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                      Get yourself a copy of www.bullshitfilter.org and you'll be doing fine :)

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                      • P Paul Conrad

                        John M. Drescher wrote:

                        I wonder if they also outfitted her with a computer that can handle 4GBytes / s data rate.

                        I wondered about that myself. Computer would have to be a pretty recent set of hardware not to bog the connection down.

                        "Any sort of work in VB6 is bound to provide several WTF moments." - Christian Graus

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                        David Wulff
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                        I never thought I would see the day when the home computer, not the network, becomes the bottleneck when accessing the Internet. :~


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                        • D David Wulff

                          I never thought I would see the day when the home computer, not the network, becomes the bottleneck when accessing the Internet. :~


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                          Paul Conrad
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                          From the network's viewpoint it would be bottlenecking, but from the user's viewpoint, they wouldn't see the bottleneck, unless they were downloading so much at once that the bottleneck then becomes apparent.

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                          • P Paul Conrad

                            dan neely wrote:

                            which is probably why they picked her as a guinea pig

                            No kidding. You don't need serious uplink speed to read online news. Us developers on the other hand, would be the ones to benefit more from it. There must be some untold gotcha about the connection, me thinks.

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                            Paul Watson
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                            Paul Conrad wrote:

                            There must be some untold gotcha about the connection, me thinks.

                            Yeah, the very first link outside of her special network. The second that connects to an ISP or server it will drop all the way back down to what we all pretty much have. Even if all the network hardware of the internet was "upgraded" to match her speeds the server hard-drives and memory wouldn't get close.

                            regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                            Shog9 wrote:

                            And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                            • E Eytukan

                              Marc Clifton wrote:

                              2 seconds,

                              Moving a movie from a folder to another in my machine takes minutes.:sigh:


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                              Paul Watson
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                              VuNic wrote:

                              Moving a movie from a folder to another in my machine takes minutes.

                              heck, takes longer than 2 seconds to select the file.

                              regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                              Shog9 wrote:

                              And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                              • J JimmyRopes

                                Marc Clifton wrote:

                                In less than 2 seconds, Lothberg can download a full-length movie on her home computer The battle between the user's bandwidth capability and the content provider begins.

                                They should have said theoretically less than 2 seconds. In reality no server on the public internet serves up content at that speed.

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                                Rich Leyshon
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                                What! Didn't you see Doctor Who and the Last Dalek. That baby downloaded the whole of the internet and drained all the power for half the US in under a minute! :laugh: Rich

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                                • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                  Swedish woman gets superfast Internet[^] :omg: and she just reads web-based newspapers with it! :wtf:

                                  A guide to posting questions on CodeProject[^]
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                                  David Lane
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                                  Now where did I put my quantum laptop?

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                                  • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                    Swedish woman gets superfast Internet[^] :omg: and she just reads web-based newspapers with it! :wtf:

                                    A guide to posting questions on CodeProject[^]
                                    Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
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                                    Eric Georgiades
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                                    "40 gigabits-per-second" .. "in less than 2 seconds, Lothberg can download a full-length movie on her home computer" Well a pretty fast computer, ram and harddisk would be needed. A cd sized movie of 700 MB would take 0.28 seconds to store in RAM and to store to hard disk a futher of at least 2.33 seconds when using a pretty fast hard disk. So no matter what she downloads, she is literary only acquiring speeds up to her hard disk limitations, like 2.4 gigabits-per-second. So urm, could we have the remaining 37.6 gbps shared some over here? Then again granny is probably making money as a warez release dump :P

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                                    • J JimmyRopes

                                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                                      In less than 2 seconds, Lothberg can download a full-length movie on her home computer The battle between the user's bandwidth capability and the content provider begins.

                                      They should have said theoretically less than 2 seconds. In reality no server on the public internet serves up content at that speed.

                                      Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                                      Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                                      I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                                      Andrew Eisenberg
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                                      JimmyRopes wrote:

                                      Marc Clifton wrote: In less than 2 seconds, Lothberg can download a full-length movie on her home computer The battle between the user's bandwidth capability and the content provider begins. They should have said theoretically less than 2 seconds. In reality no server on the public internet serves up content at that speed.

                                      I have a 5MB downstream cable-modem. I've found that over 1MB/sec (even 512KB/sec), I can tell little difference in my browsing experience. All the speed in the world doesn't matter if the hardware at either end can't handle it. I'm not, though, saying the ultra-high bandwidth is useless. The more bandwidth that you have, the more sites you can be interacting with simultaneously. Extra bandwidth seems to be most noticeable when downloading software, especially Microsofts 100+ megabyte service packs and multi-gigabyte betas.

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                                      • P Paul Conrad

                                        Minosknight wrote:

                                        I got T3 which can get up to around 45mbps

                                        Lucky you :) I think the problem is that Verzion doesn't see rural areas as being very marketable :sigh:

                                        "Any sort of work in VB6 is bound to provide several WTF moments." - Christian Graus

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                                        Andrew Eisenberg
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                                        If they ever get the internet over power lines working that's been experimental for 10-15 years now working then you'd be in luck. I also live in an area where the phone company doesn't offer DSL and I'm only 30 miles out of Nashville! My only high speed choices are cable-modem or the ultra-high price and high-latency satellite internet.

                                        Andrew C. Eisenberg Nashville, TN, USA (a.k.a. Music City USA) (Yes Virginia, there are rock and roll stations in Nashville! :laugh:)

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                                          If they ever get the internet over power lines working that's been experimental for 10-15 years now working then you'd be in luck. I also live in an area where the phone company doesn't offer DSL and I'm only 30 miles out of Nashville! My only high speed choices are cable-modem or the ultra-high price and high-latency satellite internet.

                                          Andrew C. Eisenberg Nashville, TN, USA (a.k.a. Music City USA) (Yes Virginia, there are rock and roll stations in Nashville! :laugh:)

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                                          Paul Conrad
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                                          I actually count myself lucky to be getting 1.5mbps downstream and about 380kbps up. The people at Verizon try to tell me I am only qualified for 768k. The billing/support people are not on the same page as the CO field techs around here. Go with what he field techs says, they are the ones working the hardware around here.

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