How does this author still write for yahoo finance ?! [modified]
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:confused::confused::confused::confused: http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/careerist/40342[^] I cannot think of a better way to commit career job suicide then to follow any of this advice... I am consistently appalled at this woman's article...The best thing about this article is the comments she receives. -- modified at 12:57 Thursday 26th July, 2007 Most people's objection to MY objection is my dislike torwards the use of headphones. I understand now that most of you do enjoy wearing headphones while you work to "put you in the zone" or because you have cheeriness issues without them. As for the hedge fund I work in, alot of verbal communication is necessary, it is not frivolous speaking but mandatory for the tasks at hand. I know this varies from one job to the next, I can merely speak from how I feel about my job and my subordinates. I guess most of you completely disagree though.:((
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:confused::confused::confused::confused: http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/careerist/40342[^] I cannot think of a better way to commit career job suicide then to follow any of this advice... I am consistently appalled at this woman's article...The best thing about this article is the comments she receives. -- modified at 12:57 Thursday 26th July, 2007 Most people's objection to MY objection is my dislike torwards the use of headphones. I understand now that most of you do enjoy wearing headphones while you work to "put you in the zone" or because you have cheeriness issues without them. As for the hedge fund I work in, alot of verbal communication is necessary, it is not frivolous speaking but mandatory for the tasks at hand. I know this varies from one job to the next, I can merely speak from how I feel about my job and my subordinates. I guess most of you completely disagree though.:((
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Well, call me an asshole but I don't see anything wrong with the article. Actually, she was right on with most of it. I would like to ask Minosknight who do work for, what is your position, and how many employees do you have in your company? I would also like to ask, exactly what in this article offended you so much? -- Steve
[ Don't do today what can be done tomorrow!! ;) ]
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Well, call me an asshole but I don't see anything wrong with the article. Actually, she was right on with most of it. I would like to ask Minosknight who do work for, what is your position, and how many employees do you have in your company? I would also like to ask, exactly what in this article offended you so much? -- Steve
[ Don't do today what can be done tomorrow!! ;) ]
ssmerk007 wrote:
exactly what in this article offended you so much?
She's female, and her career is better than his? :suss:
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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:confused::confused::confused::confused: http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/careerist/40342[^] I cannot think of a better way to commit career job suicide then to follow any of this advice... I am consistently appalled at this woman's article...The best thing about this article is the comments she receives. -- modified at 12:57 Thursday 26th July, 2007 Most people's objection to MY objection is my dislike torwards the use of headphones. I understand now that most of you do enjoy wearing headphones while you work to "put you in the zone" or because you have cheeriness issues without them. As for the hedge fund I work in, alot of verbal communication is necessary, it is not frivolous speaking but mandatory for the tasks at hand. I know this varies from one job to the next, I can merely speak from how I feel about my job and my subordinates. I guess most of you completely disagree though.:((
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I've never read any of her articles before but I agree that it's poorly written and some of the "tips" are crap. Theres no coherency to it, it doesn't get to any point and it seems like something someone just "phoned in" without really working up a good article that means anything. I don't know about career suicide though, I can't see that in it really.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
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Well, call me an asshole but I don't see anything wrong with the article. Actually, she was right on with most of it. I would like to ask Minosknight who do work for, what is your position, and how many employees do you have in your company? I would also like to ask, exactly what in this article offended you so much? -- Steve
[ Don't do today what can be done tomorrow!! ;) ]
:| I work in a hedge fund, I oversee a group of programmers that came straight out of college. We have about 30 employees all-in-all. I'm not offended by any of it, merely shocked at such shoddy advice. If I ever saw someone with headphones on, they would be promptly ordered to go home. Take vacation days, don't ask for them!? Ditch exit interviews!? Ignore colleagues without attempting to resolve issues!? What do you think is spot-on about this article!? And what company do you work for? and are they accepting applications?
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ssmerk007 wrote:
exactly what in this article offended you so much?
She's female, and her career is better than his? :suss:
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
:laugh: Hardly
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I've never read any of her articles before but I agree that it's poorly written and some of the "tips" are crap. Theres no coherency to it, it doesn't get to any point and it seems like something someone just "phoned in" without really working up a good article that means anything. I don't know about career suicide though, I can't see that in it really.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
Maybe not career, but job suicide...if I told my boss I was taking a vacation and merely sent him an e-mail and left. I doubt I would have my job waiting for me when I returned...
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:confused::confused::confused::confused: http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/careerist/40342[^] I cannot think of a better way to commit career job suicide then to follow any of this advice... I am consistently appalled at this woman's article...The best thing about this article is the comments she receives. -- modified at 12:57 Thursday 26th July, 2007 Most people's objection to MY objection is my dislike torwards the use of headphones. I understand now that most of you do enjoy wearing headphones while you work to "put you in the zone" or because you have cheeriness issues without them. As for the hedge fund I work in, alot of verbal communication is necessary, it is not frivolous speaking but mandatory for the tasks at hand. I know this varies from one job to the next, I can merely speak from how I feel about my job and my subordinates. I guess most of you completely disagree though.:((
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I can only really disagree with one point here: "When you need to leave work for a few hours or a few days, you don't need to ask for permission" - Unless you have a very insular, private job, that's downright rude for any age.
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:| I work in a hedge fund, I oversee a group of programmers that came straight out of college. We have about 30 employees all-in-all. I'm not offended by any of it, merely shocked at such shoddy advice. If I ever saw someone with headphones on, they would be promptly ordered to go home. Take vacation days, don't ask for them!? Ditch exit interviews!? Ignore colleagues without attempting to resolve issues!? What do you think is spot-on about this article!? And what company do you work for? and are they accepting applications?
public static void DoSomething() { DoSomethingElse(); } public static void DoSomethingElse() { Dosomething(); }
Minosknight wrote:
If I ever saw someone with headphones on, they would be promptly ordered to go home.
Well I'm very glad I don't work for you. What's wrong with headphones, especially on a programmer?
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:| I work in a hedge fund, I oversee a group of programmers that came straight out of college. We have about 30 employees all-in-all. I'm not offended by any of it, merely shocked at such shoddy advice. If I ever saw someone with headphones on, they would be promptly ordered to go home. Take vacation days, don't ask for them!? Ditch exit interviews!? Ignore colleagues without attempting to resolve issues!? What do you think is spot-on about this article!? And what company do you work for? and are they accepting applications?
public static void DoSomething() { DoSomethingElse(); } public static void DoSomethingElse() { Dosomething(); }
Minosknight wrote:
If I ever saw someone with headphones on, they would be promptly ordered to go home.
Yeah...there's nothing worse than programmers working in the zone...
Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:
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:confused::confused::confused::confused: http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/careerist/40342[^] I cannot think of a better way to commit career job suicide then to follow any of this advice... I am consistently appalled at this woman's article...The best thing about this article is the comments she receives. -- modified at 12:57 Thursday 26th July, 2007 Most people's objection to MY objection is my dislike torwards the use of headphones. I understand now that most of you do enjoy wearing headphones while you work to "put you in the zone" or because you have cheeriness issues without them. As for the hedge fund I work in, alot of verbal communication is necessary, it is not frivolous speaking but mandatory for the tasks at hand. I know this varies from one job to the next, I can merely speak from how I feel about my job and my subordinates. I guess most of you completely disagree though.:((
public static void DoSomething() { DoSomethingElse(); } public static void DoSomethingElse() { Dosomething(); }
I think she's writing for a different world that the one we IT workers typically inhabit. I disagree with a lot of what she says, but I don't think it's rank stupidity, it's just a different viewpoint. I won't work on the weekends, and I don't page people or call them to make them think I am. I also think that Myspace and Facebook are social networking sites, and completely inappropriate for maintaining work relationships. However... if you have a Myspace page, blog or web site, I agree that you shouldn't try to hide who you are, and you should not post anything that could get you fired. I've seen people do this... post a bunch of stuff that borders on the illegal, and then try to hide their identity. There is no reason for that. If you're into weird sex or something like that... DON'T put it on your Myspace page in the first place! Keep that where it belongs, in your private communications. If you have normal hobbies that aren't politically inflammatory, then you should be open about it so that if they care, people can find that information and tell a little about what kind of person you are. I post some pretty inflammatory stuff on my blog and web site, but I don't try to hide who I am, and I don't post anything that I could legally be fired for. Therefore, I don't have to hide my identity... but I'm not going to invite my boss to be my friend on Myspace. He's not my friend, he's my boss. http://jazzyflight.blogspot.com/[^] - Jazzy's Flight Deck http://www.myspace.com/jasmine1971[^] - Myspace http://smoothjazzy.blogspot.com/[^] - My personal blog http://www.smoothjazzy.com/ [^] - My personal web site There is some politically inflammatory stuff there, but I don't engage in any criminal activity, don't post any porn or anything, don't have photos of my guns or something... I'm pushing the limit, but I'm not afraid of my boss reading any of that stuff. Not that he would care, but you know...
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Minosknight wrote:
If I ever saw someone with headphones on, they would be promptly ordered to go home.
Well I'm very glad I don't work for you. What's wrong with headphones, especially on a programmer?
Well at least in here...there is a lot of communication going on. So maybe that is specific to my place of work, but it still doesn't seem like a good idea.
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Minosknight wrote:
If I ever saw someone with headphones on, they would be promptly ordered to go home.
Yeah...there's nothing worse than programmers working in the zone...
Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:
Like I said above, it may be job specific here for the programmers that work for me, but there is a lot of communication going and no one wears them.
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Well at least in here...there is a lot of communication going on. So maybe that is specific to my place of work, but it still doesn't seem like a good idea.
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Minosknight wrote:
Well at least in here...there is a lot of communication going on.
Same here, really a lot, but we've heard of email and IM.
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:| I work in a hedge fund, I oversee a group of programmers that came straight out of college. We have about 30 employees all-in-all. I'm not offended by any of it, merely shocked at such shoddy advice. If I ever saw someone with headphones on, they would be promptly ordered to go home. Take vacation days, don't ask for them!? Ditch exit interviews!? Ignore colleagues without attempting to resolve issues!? What do you think is spot-on about this article!? And what company do you work for? and are they accepting applications?
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Minosknight wrote:
If I ever saw someone with headphones on, they would be promptly ordered to go home.
I wear headphones ~70% of the day -- if you told me I couldn't wear my headphones my moral would plummet.
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Minosknight wrote:
If I ever saw someone with headphones on, they would be promptly ordered to go home.
I wear headphones ~70% of the day -- if you told me I couldn't wear my headphones my moral would plummet.
I'm sorry headphones have entirely too much influence on your demeanor.
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Minosknight wrote:
Well at least in here...there is a lot of communication going on.
Same here, really a lot, but we've heard of email and IM.
e-mail!? IM!? qu'est ce-que c'est ca!? Then I guess my my place of business is entirely different from that of everyone else's.
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e-mail!? IM!? qu'est ce-que c'est ca!? Then I guess my my place of business is entirely different from that of everyone else's.
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We find particularly IM helps productivity and concentration, because if you call out to or walk up to someone, they are immediately distracted. If you MSN them, they have time to finish that concentration critical task before responding. We sometimes even use it without headphones.
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Maybe not career, but job suicide...if I told my boss I was taking a vacation and merely sent him an e-mail and left. I doubt I would have my job waiting for me when I returned...
public static void DoSomething() { DoSomethingElse(); } public static void DoSomethingElse() { Dosomething(); }
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:| I work in a hedge fund, I oversee a group of programmers that came straight out of college. We have about 30 employees all-in-all. I'm not offended by any of it, merely shocked at such shoddy advice. If I ever saw someone with headphones on, they would be promptly ordered to go home. Take vacation days, don't ask for them!? Ditch exit interviews!? Ignore colleagues without attempting to resolve issues!? What do you think is spot-on about this article!? And what company do you work for? and are they accepting applications?
public static void DoSomething() { DoSomethingElse(); } public static void DoSomethingElse() { Dosomething(); }
Minosknight wrote:
I work in a
hedge fund[...]Well, that explains it! :P :laugh: :laugh: ;P Seriously, people that work in hedge funds are some of the most intense (and not always in a good way) people that I know of. At least, the traders certainly are... Peace!
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