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    Kareem Shaker
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    You might know Vincent Van Gogh ( 1853-1890 ), he's a painter; I am one of his fans, I like his paintings so much, however I have come through one of his quotes, and I felt it's very relevant to software industry and project management so I wanted to share it with you, the quote is: "Great things are done by a series of small things brought together." Now, I would like to know how do you interpret this quote in terms of today's software methodologies!

    Kareem Shaker http://cairocafe.blogspot.com

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      You might know Vincent Van Gogh ( 1853-1890 ), he's a painter; I am one of his fans, I like his paintings so much, however I have come through one of his quotes, and I felt it's very relevant to software industry and project management so I wanted to share it with you, the quote is: "Great things are done by a series of small things brought together." Now, I would like to know how do you interpret this quote in terms of today's software methodologies!

      Kareem Shaker http://cairocafe.blogspot.com

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      I never understood all the ado about him until I saw original paintings surrounded by other contemporary art: these tiny compressed pieces of crazyness, exploding with colors. Cornfield with flowers[^] probably being my favorite. as for Great things are done by a series of small things brought together.: Some diligent guy still has to put some mortar between the bricks.


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        You might know Vincent Van Gogh ( 1853-1890 ), he's a painter; I am one of his fans, I like his paintings so much, however I have come through one of his quotes, and I felt it's very relevant to software industry and project management so I wanted to share it with you, the quote is: "Great things are done by a series of small things brought together." Now, I would like to know how do you interpret this quote in terms of today's software methodologies!

        Kareem Shaker http://cairocafe.blogspot.com

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        Kareem Shaker wrote:

        Now, I would like to know how do you interpret this quote in terms of today's software methodologies!

        Software methodologies are the brush and the paint. In the hands of someone with talent, you get great software. In the hands of a VB programmer, you get something you might stick on your refrigerator with a magnet. Marc

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          Kareem Shaker wrote:

          Now, I would like to know how do you interpret this quote in terms of today's software methodologies!

          Software methodologies are the brush and the paint. In the hands of someone with talent, you get great software. In the hands of a VB programmer, you get something you might stick on your refrigerator with a magnet. Marc

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          Jim Crafton
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          Marc Clifton wrote:

          In the hands of a VB programmer, you get something you might stick on your refrigerator with a magnet.

          That's so awesome. That's definite sig material!!

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            Kareem Shaker wrote:

            Now, I would like to know how do you interpret this quote in terms of today's software methodologies!

            Software methodologies are the brush and the paint. In the hands of someone with talent, you get great software. In the hands of a VB programmer, you get something you might stick on your refrigerator with a magnet. Marc

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            Paul Conrad
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            Marc Clifton wrote:

            In the hands of a VB programmer, you get something you might stick on your refrigerator with a magnet.

            :laugh::laugh::laugh: That is a good one :)

            "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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              Kareem Shaker wrote:

              Now, I would like to know how do you interpret this quote in terms of today's software methodologies!

              Software methodologies are the brush and the paint. In the hands of someone with talent, you get great software. In the hands of a VB programmer, you get something you might stick on your refrigerator with a magnet. Marc

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              Mike Hankey
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              Marc, In the hands of a VB programmer, you get something you might stick on your refrigerator with a magnet. Classic Your actually admitting that VB is a language? I wouldn't be as bold! Mike

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                Kareem Shaker wrote:

                Now, I would like to know how do you interpret this quote in terms of today's software methodologies!

                Software methodologies are the brush and the paint. In the hands of someone with talent, you get great software. In the hands of a VB programmer, you get something you might stick on your refrigerator with a magnet. Marc

                Thyme In The Country
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                Marc Clifton wrote:

                In the hands of a VB programmer, you get something you might stick on your refrigerator with a magnet.

                yeah yeah ok ha ha BUT if all you want is your garage whitewashed there's no point in using expensive emulsion and employiing Michaelangelo, is there? "Use the right tools for thr right job" - simple and true. An awful lot of SME software requiremetns can be done quickly and efficiently with VB - and they can easily find people to mainain it as and when required if the oprigianl coder diappears (or moves on to other things,....) And, to Kareem:

                Kareem Shaker wrote:

                You might know Vincent Van Gogh ( 1853-1890 ), he's a painter;

                Yes, Kareem, I think we might know him... ... my favourite is still "Almond Blossom" - the original (in the VG museum in Amsterdam) is just awesome...

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                  I never understood all the ado about him until I saw original paintings surrounded by other contemporary art: these tiny compressed pieces of crazyness, exploding with colors. Cornfield with flowers[^] probably being my favorite. as for Great things are done by a series of small things brought together.: Some diligent guy still has to put some mortar between the bricks.


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                  There are so many great works by Vincent Van Gogh and I do like "Cornfields with flowers" a lot, but I think my all time favorite is "Starry Night". Starry Night[^] Both "Cornfields with flowers" and "Starry Night" are from his later period, after he has lost his grip, so to speak. Most of his notable work is from this period in his life when he is alienated from friends and family. I had the pleasure of going to the Van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam and spending a day noting the transition from his early, somewhat amateurish works, to his full blown insane masterpieces. It was a somewhat sad transformation from ordinary to genius. Sad because I knew the outcome but fascinating none the less. By the way, "Starry Night" is not in the Amsterdam collection. It is in New York City at the Metropolitan Museum of Art. I have seen it there, but, in my opinion, it really belongs with his other works in Amsterdam so there is a more complete record of his life's works all in one place.

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                    There are so many great works by Vincent Van Gogh and I do like "Cornfields with flowers" a lot, but I think my all time favorite is "Starry Night". Starry Night[^] Both "Cornfields with flowers" and "Starry Night" are from his later period, after he has lost his grip, so to speak. Most of his notable work is from this period in his life when he is alienated from friends and family. I had the pleasure of going to the Van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam and spending a day noting the transition from his early, somewhat amateurish works, to his full blown insane masterpieces. It was a somewhat sad transformation from ordinary to genius. Sad because I knew the outcome but fascinating none the less. By the way, "Starry Night" is not in the Amsterdam collection. It is in New York City at the Metropolitan Museum of Art. I have seen it there, but, in my opinion, it really belongs with his other works in Amsterdam so there is a more complete record of his life's works all in one place.

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                    JimmyRopes wrote:

                    favorite is "Starry Night"

                    Same here, I've always liked that one.

                    "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                      I never understood all the ado about him until I saw original paintings surrounded by other contemporary art: these tiny compressed pieces of crazyness, exploding with colors. Cornfield with flowers[^] probably being my favorite. as for Great things are done by a series of small things brought together.: Some diligent guy still has to put some mortar between the bricks.


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                      I have never really been into art or artists. Mostly I just don't get it. My wife took me to a Van Gough exhibit one time at the Atlanta High Museum.[^] Seeing the paintings in magazines or books just doesn't do them justice. I stood and stared at several of them, for quite some time, just amazed at the brilliance of the colors.

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                        You might know Vincent Van Gogh ( 1853-1890 ), he's a painter; I am one of his fans, I like his paintings so much, however I have come through one of his quotes, and I felt it's very relevant to software industry and project management so I wanted to share it with you, the quote is: "Great things are done by a series of small things brought together." Now, I would like to know how do you interpret this quote in terms of today's software methodologies!

                        Kareem Shaker http://cairocafe.blogspot.com

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                          You might know Vincent Van Gogh ( 1853-1890 ), he's a painter; I am one of his fans, I like his paintings so much, however I have come through one of his quotes, and I felt it's very relevant to software industry and project management so I wanted to share it with you, the quote is: "Great things are done by a series of small things brought together." Now, I would like to know how do you interpret this quote in terms of today's software methodologies!

                          Kareem Shaker http://cairocafe.blogspot.com

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                          Oh please lets not get too dewey eyed here . Van Gough was a good painter , but the only reason that he is reverred today is that there is a vast amount of detail of his life , so for once the academics of art can corrolate his mental state with his artistic output . He is as famous because of his daubings ( i like the ones of sheveningen the most ) as he is for anything else . A tortured soul , no doubt. A gifted artist , again I concur , but genius ? Genius is subjective , and in this case I see an industry that would falter if he were not . The king is naked ?

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                            Oh please lets not get too dewey eyed here . Van Gough was a good painter , but the only reason that he is reverred today is that there is a vast amount of detail of his life , so for once the academics of art can corrolate his mental state with his artistic output . He is as famous because of his daubings ( i like the ones of sheveningen the most ) as he is for anything else . A tortured soul , no doubt. A gifted artist , again I concur , but genius ? Genius is subjective , and in this case I see an industry that would falter if he were not . The king is naked ?

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                            Andrew Torrance wrote:

                            the only reason that he is reverred today is that there is a vast amount of detail of his life

                            steady on... there are tens of thousands of painters for whom "there is a vast amount of detail of his [or her] life" yet who are not regarded as great, so this can hardly be the "only reason" that VG is... I have to admit, I don't go overboard about him, but he did have a certain je ne sais croix... and I speak as someone whi is very, very cynical about what the "art world" regards as "good art" - David Bowie showed them up beautifully - this still makes me laugh: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/75207.stm[^]

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                              Andrew Torrance wrote:

                              the only reason that he is reverred today is that there is a vast amount of detail of his life

                              steady on... there are tens of thousands of painters for whom "there is a vast amount of detail of his [or her] life" yet who are not regarded as great, so this can hardly be the "only reason" that VG is... I have to admit, I don't go overboard about him, but he did have a certain je ne sais croix... and I speak as someone whi is very, very cynical about what the "art world" regards as "good art" - David Bowie showed them up beautifully - this still makes me laugh: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/75207.stm[^]

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                              Jim Crafton
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                              Nice link - thanks for sharing that. Nice to see someone hoist these fools up on their petards.

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                                Marc Clifton wrote:

                                In the hands of a VB programmer, you get something you might stick on your refrigerator with a magnet.

                                yeah yeah ok ha ha BUT if all you want is your garage whitewashed there's no point in using expensive emulsion and employiing Michaelangelo, is there? "Use the right tools for thr right job" - simple and true. An awful lot of SME software requiremetns can be done quickly and efficiently with VB - and they can easily find people to mainain it as and when required if the oprigianl coder diappears (or moves on to other things,....) And, to Kareem:

                                Kareem Shaker wrote:

                                You might know Vincent Van Gogh ( 1853-1890 ), he's a painter;

                                Yes, Kareem, I think we might know him... ... my favourite is still "Almond Blossom" - the original (in the VG museum in Amsterdam) is just awesome...

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                                Kareem Shaker
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                                so you're not one of the nerds :)

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                                  You might know Vincent Van Gogh ( 1853-1890 ), he's a painter; I am one of his fans, I like his paintings so much, however I have come through one of his quotes, and I felt it's very relevant to software industry and project management so I wanted to share it with you, the quote is: "Great things are done by a series of small things brought together." Now, I would like to know how do you interpret this quote in terms of today's software methodologies!

                                  Kareem Shaker http://cairocafe.blogspot.com

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                                  Sounds like a bottom-up vs top-down situation?

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                                    Sounds like a bottom-up vs top-down situation?

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                                    Kareem Shaker
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                                    I think it's more close to be Top-down.

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                                      You might know Vincent Van Gogh ( 1853-1890 ), he's a painter; I am one of his fans, I like his paintings so much, however I have come through one of his quotes, and I felt it's very relevant to software industry and project management so I wanted to share it with you, the quote is: "Great things are done by a series of small things brought together." Now, I would like to know how do you interpret this quote in terms of today's software methodologies!

                                      Kareem Shaker http://cairocafe.blogspot.com

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                                      Jerry Hammond
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                                      Very applicable to Project Management. In fact, know that quote by heart should be worth at least one PDU.

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