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    David Stone
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    Nobody's posting anything. So I decided to ask a question. When you bold text or italicize it...which set of tags do you use? 1)

    <b></b> and <i></i>

    or 2)

    <strong></strong> and <em></em>

    I use the second 'cause Microsoft says to. :-D David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
    MEEKNESS, n. Uncommon patience in planning a revenge that is worth while. The Devil's Dictionary, Ambrose Bierce

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      Nobody's posting anything. So I decided to ask a question. When you bold text or italicize it...which set of tags do you use? 1)

      <b></b> and <i></i>

      or 2)

      <strong></strong> and <em></em>

      I use the second 'cause Microsoft says to. :-D David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
      MEEKNESS, n. Uncommon patience in planning a revenge that is worth while. The Devil's Dictionary, Ambrose Bierce

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      Christian Graus
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      I'm interested - I write HTML every day, and I did not know the second set. ( It's hardly my forte, I tend to get mostly the COM/C++ stuff at work as that is what I am good at, but I do write some asp as well ) Where and why do Microsoft say the second set is preferred ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002

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      • D David Stone

        Nobody's posting anything. So I decided to ask a question. When you bold text or italicize it...which set of tags do you use? 1)

        <b></b> and <i></i>

        or 2)

        <strong></strong> and <em></em>

        I use the second 'cause Microsoft says to. :-D David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
        MEEKNESS, n. Uncommon patience in planning a revenge that is worth while. The Devil's Dictionary, Ambrose Bierce

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        Mauricio Ritter
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        David Stone wrote: I'm bored... Not just you... :) David Stone wrote: So I decided to ask a question. When you bold text or italicize it...which set of tags do you use? Choice 1 cuz u have to type less :) Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 Trank :beer: The alcohol is one of the greatest enemys of man, but a man who flee from his enemys is a coward. :beer:

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        • D David Stone

          Nobody's posting anything. So I decided to ask a question. When you bold text or italicize it...which set of tags do you use? 1)

          <b></b> and <i></i>

          or 2)

          <strong></strong> and <em></em>

          I use the second 'cause Microsoft says to. :-D David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
          MEEKNESS, n. Uncommon patience in planning a revenge that is worth while. The Devil's Dictionary, Ambrose Bierce

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          Tim Smith
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          I use the first because I am ANTI-MICROSOFT. STRONG and EM are just evil html tags set forth by Bill Gates to take all of our computing freedom away. Well, actually, I use B/I because I am lazy. Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?

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            I'm interested - I write HTML every day, and I did not know the second set. ( It's hardly my forte, I tend to get mostly the COM/C++ stuff at work as that is what I am good at, but I do write some asp as well ) Where and why do Microsoft say the second set is preferred ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002

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            Martin Marvinski
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            Christian Graus wrote: I tend to get mostly the COM/C++ stuff at work as that is what I am good at :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Just kidding. ;P After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.

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              Christian Graus wrote: I tend to get mostly the COM/C++ stuff at work as that is what I am good at :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Just kidding. ;P After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.

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              Christian Graus
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              *grin* let me rephrase. My asp sucks. :-) Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002

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              • D David Stone

                Nobody's posting anything. So I decided to ask a question. When you bold text or italicize it...which set of tags do you use? 1)

                <b></b> and <i></i>

                or 2)

                <strong></strong> and <em></em>

                I use the second 'cause Microsoft says to. :-D David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
                MEEKNESS, n. Uncommon patience in planning a revenge that is worth while. The Devil's Dictionary, Ambrose Bierce

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                Jeremy Falcon
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                Depends on context. I used to go the <strong> and <em> route b/c MS always did that with things like FrontPage, but a couple of years back I switched to <b> and <i> when I want bold and italics because there is no guarantee the other browsers will render the tags the same. It just so happens to be represented as the same, but it could be different. Like, maybe in some whacked-out browser <em> could be a different color. I haven't seen this, so this is theory. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
                xenophobic Xanthippe – xerophthalmic Xanadu Perseverance pushes past painful promenades - providing precious peace. Surely some striving souls survive symptomatic stress? Maybe my mangling might misguide malicious miscreants?

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                • C Christian Graus

                  *grin* let me rephrase. My asp sucks. :-) Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002

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                  Martin Marvinski
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                  Christian Graus wrote: My asp sucks How can that be? ASP is the easiest thing MS has! It's even easier than VB.:rolleyes: After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.

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                    Christian Graus wrote: My asp sucks How can that be? ASP is the easiest thing MS has! It's even easier than VB.:rolleyes: After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.

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                    Jeremy Falcon
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                    I'm sure CG meant to say, "I code ASP mad hacker, leet style. My super phat skillz will phuck the world up of any lamer trying to stop da code." ;) Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
                    xenophobic Xanthippe – xerophthalmic Xanadu Perseverance pushes past painful promenades - providing precious peace. Surely some striving souls survive symptomatic stress? Maybe my mangling might misguide malicious miscreants?

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                      I'm sure CG meant to say, "I code ASP mad hacker, leet style. My super phat skillz will phuck the world up of any lamer trying to stop da code." ;) Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
                      xenophobic Xanthippe – xerophthalmic Xanadu Perseverance pushes past painful promenades - providing precious peace. Surely some striving souls survive symptomatic stress? Maybe my mangling might misguide malicious miscreants?

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                      Christian Graus
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                      I'm not even sure what that means...... :P Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002

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                      • M Martin Marvinski

                        Christian Graus wrote: My asp sucks How can that be? ASP is the easiest thing MS has! It's even easier than VB.:rolleyes: After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.

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                        Christian Graus
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                        Martin Marvinski wrote: How can that be? ASP is the easiest thing MS has! It's even easier than VB. It's easy, but it's also limited. Until a few months ago I had never done it, and I still don't do it much. So the problem is not that it is hard, but that I'm still learning how best to do it. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002

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                        • D David Stone

                          Nobody's posting anything. So I decided to ask a question. When you bold text or italicize it...which set of tags do you use? 1)

                          <b></b> and <i></i>

                          or 2)

                          <strong></strong> and <em></em>

                          I use the second 'cause Microsoft says to. :-D David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
                          MEEKNESS, n. Uncommon patience in planning a revenge that is worth while. The Devil's Dictionary, Ambrose Bierce

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                          Erik Westermann
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                          I use both interchangeably, just to confuse others ;) Essam - Author, JScript .NET Programming
                          ...and a bunch of articles around the Web

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                          • C Christian Graus

                            I'm interested - I write HTML every day, and I did not know the second set. ( It's hardly my forte, I tend to get mostly the COM/C++ stuff at work as that is what I am good at, but I do write some asp as well ) Where and why do Microsoft say the second set is preferred ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002

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                            realJSOP
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                            Because Microsoft wants to own the standard. They also want to own the standard we all know as "day" and "night". However, significant evidence that "day" and "night" have both been happening for a considerable amount of time before Microsoft became incorporated is placing a speed bump in their plans. Don't be fool, though. The [Micorosft] lawyers think they might have found a loophole. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.

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                            • D David Stone

                              Nobody's posting anything. So I decided to ask a question. When you bold text or italicize it...which set of tags do you use? 1)

                              <b></b> and <i></i>

                              or 2)

                              <strong></strong> and <em></em>

                              I use the second 'cause Microsoft says to. :-D David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
                              MEEKNESS, n. Uncommon patience in planning a revenge that is worth while. The Devil's Dictionary, Ambrose Bierce

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                              Jon Sagara
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                              Actually, for a while, I used

                              <span class="bold"></span>

                              where I had defined bold to be font-weight: bold;. I guess I thought I was special or something. Now I mainly use <b></b>. :) Jon Sagara "These rules could get someone killed, but they're good for academic use." -- one of my professors.

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                              • D David Stone

                                Nobody's posting anything. So I decided to ask a question. When you bold text or italicize it...which set of tags do you use? 1)

                                <b></b> and <i></i>

                                or 2)

                                <strong></strong> and <em></em>

                                I use the second 'cause Microsoft says to. :-D David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
                                MEEKNESS, n. Uncommon patience in planning a revenge that is worth while. The Devil's Dictionary, Ambrose Bierce

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                                Mike Osbahr
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                                Can you mix them? Started with i, ended with em. Starts strong but finishes with a little b. :~ Guess not :( >>>-----> MikeO

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                                • D David Stone

                                  Nobody's posting anything. So I decided to ask a question. When you bold text or italicize it...which set of tags do you use? 1)

                                  <b></b> and <i></i>

                                  or 2)

                                  <strong></strong> and <em></em>

                                  I use the second 'cause Microsoft says to. :-D David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
                                  MEEKNESS, n. Uncommon patience in planning a revenge that is worth while. The Devil's Dictionary, Ambrose Bierce

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                                  Andrew Peace
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                                  First choice: / and /; as was mentioned above, less typing. -- Andrew.

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                                  • D Daniel Turini

                                    Christian Graus wrote: Where and why do Microsoft say the second set is preferred ? Don't know, but anything that only works in IE should be preferred by MS :) I would do the same thing. Crivo Automated Credit Assessment

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                                    William E Kempf
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                                    Any browser that doesn't support EM and STRONG are non-conforming and should be avoided. It would be more appropriate to bash such browsers and the company/individuals that create them then it is to bash MS. William E. Kempf

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                                      I use the first because I am ANTI-MICROSOFT. STRONG and EM are just evil html tags set forth by Bill Gates to take all of our computing freedom away. Well, actually, I use B/I because I am lazy. Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?

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                                      William E Kempf
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                                      <rant> I despise MS bashing (or bashing of any company or individual for that matter). In this case the bashing is doubly offensive because it's unwarranted to the topic. </rant> STRONG and EM are standard tags specified by the W3C. See here. As far as I know MS had nothing to do with the adoption of these tags, and the recommendation to use them instead of <b> and <i> is made by the W3C, not by MS, no matter if the MSDN text gives you the impression it comes from MS or not. Way too many people in this thread think this is a MS thing, which indicates they really don't understand the standard that they are supposedly defending against MS's "evil influence". The bashers are, once again, too quick on the draw. William E. Kempf

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                                      • C Christian Graus

                                        I'm interested - I write HTML every day, and I did not know the second set. ( It's hardly my forte, I tend to get mostly the COM/C++ stuff at work as that is what I am good at, but I do write some asp as well ) Where and why do Microsoft say the second set is preferred ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002

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                                        Daniel Turini
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                                        Christian Graus wrote: Where and why do Microsoft say the second set is preferred ? Don't know, but anything that only works in IE should be preferred by MS :) I would do the same thing. Crivo Automated Credit Assessment

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                                        • D David Stone

                                          Nobody's posting anything. So I decided to ask a question. When you bold text or italicize it...which set of tags do you use? 1)

                                          <b></b> and <i></i>

                                          or 2)

                                          <strong></strong> and <em></em>

                                          I use the second 'cause Microsoft says to. :-D David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
                                          MEEKNESS, n. Uncommon patience in planning a revenge that is worth while. The Devil's Dictionary, Ambrose Bierce

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                                          Henry Jacobs
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                                          The reason <strong> and <em> are recommended over <b> and <i> is because they to not mislead the author into believing the specified text will be in bold or italics. The web designer could use CSS to make <b> text all lower-case and overlined in purple :).

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