I'm bored...
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I'm interested - I write HTML every day, and I did not know the second set. ( It's hardly my forte, I tend to get mostly the COM/C++ stuff at work as that is what I am good at, but I do write some asp as well ) Where and why do Microsoft say the second set is preferred ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
Christian Graus wrote: I tend to get mostly the COM/C++ stuff at work as that is what I am good at :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Just kidding. ;P After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.
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Christian Graus wrote: I tend to get mostly the COM/C++ stuff at work as that is what I am good at :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Just kidding. ;P After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.
*grin* let me rephrase. My asp sucks. :-) Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
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Nobody's posting anything. So I decided to ask a question. When you bold text or italicize it...which set of tags do you use? 1)
<b></b> and <i></i>
or 2)
<strong></strong> and <em></em>
I use the second 'cause Microsoft says to. :-D David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
MEEKNESS, n. Uncommon patience in planning a revenge that is worth while. The Devil's Dictionary, Ambrose BierceDepends on context. I used to go the <strong> and <em> route b/c MS always did that with things like FrontPage, but a couple of years back I switched to <b> and <i> when I want bold and italics because there is no guarantee the other browsers will render the tags the same. It just so happens to be represented as the same, but it could be different. Like, maybe in some whacked-out browser <em> could be a different color. I haven't seen this, so this is theory. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
xenophobic Xanthippe – xerophthalmic Xanadu Perseverance pushes past painful promenades - providing precious peace. Surely some striving souls survive symptomatic stress? Maybe my mangling might misguide malicious miscreants? -
*grin* let me rephrase. My asp sucks. :-) Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
Christian Graus wrote: My asp sucks How can that be? ASP is the easiest thing MS has! It's even easier than VB.:rolleyes: After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.
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Christian Graus wrote: My asp sucks How can that be? ASP is the easiest thing MS has! It's even easier than VB.:rolleyes: After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.
I'm sure CG meant to say, "I code ASP mad hacker, leet style. My super phat skillz will phuck the world up of any lamer trying to stop da code." ;) Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
xenophobic Xanthippe – xerophthalmic Xanadu Perseverance pushes past painful promenades - providing precious peace. Surely some striving souls survive symptomatic stress? Maybe my mangling might misguide malicious miscreants? -
I'm sure CG meant to say, "I code ASP mad hacker, leet style. My super phat skillz will phuck the world up of any lamer trying to stop da code." ;) Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
xenophobic Xanthippe – xerophthalmic Xanadu Perseverance pushes past painful promenades - providing precious peace. Surely some striving souls survive symptomatic stress? Maybe my mangling might misguide malicious miscreants?I'm not even sure what that means...... :P Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
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Christian Graus wrote: My asp sucks How can that be? ASP is the easiest thing MS has! It's even easier than VB.:rolleyes: After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.
Martin Marvinski wrote: How can that be? ASP is the easiest thing MS has! It's even easier than VB. It's easy, but it's also limited. Until a few months ago I had never done it, and I still don't do it much. So the problem is not that it is hard, but that I'm still learning how best to do it. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
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Nobody's posting anything. So I decided to ask a question. When you bold text or italicize it...which set of tags do you use? 1)
<b></b> and <i></i>
or 2)
<strong></strong> and <em></em>
I use the second 'cause Microsoft says to. :-D David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
MEEKNESS, n. Uncommon patience in planning a revenge that is worth while. The Devil's Dictionary, Ambrose BierceI use both interchangeably, just to confuse others ;) Essam - Author, JScript .NET Programming
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I'm interested - I write HTML every day, and I did not know the second set. ( It's hardly my forte, I tend to get mostly the COM/C++ stuff at work as that is what I am good at, but I do write some asp as well ) Where and why do Microsoft say the second set is preferred ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
Because Microsoft wants to own the standard. They also want to own the standard we all know as "day" and "night". However, significant evidence that "day" and "night" have both been happening for a considerable amount of time before Microsoft became incorporated is placing a speed bump in their plans. Don't be fool, though. The [Micorosft] lawyers think they might have found a loophole. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
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Nobody's posting anything. So I decided to ask a question. When you bold text or italicize it...which set of tags do you use? 1)
<b></b> and <i></i>
or 2)
<strong></strong> and <em></em>
I use the second 'cause Microsoft says to. :-D David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
MEEKNESS, n. Uncommon patience in planning a revenge that is worth while. The Devil's Dictionary, Ambrose BierceActually, for a while, I used
<span class="bold"></span>
where I had defined bold to be
font-weight: bold;. I guess I thought I was special or something. Now I mainly use <b></b>. :) Jon Sagara "These rules could get someone killed, but they're good for academic use." -- one of my professors. -
Nobody's posting anything. So I decided to ask a question. When you bold text or italicize it...which set of tags do you use? 1)
<b></b> and <i></i>
or 2)
<strong></strong> and <em></em>
I use the second 'cause Microsoft says to. :-D David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
MEEKNESS, n. Uncommon patience in planning a revenge that is worth while. The Devil's Dictionary, Ambrose BierceCan you mix them? Started with i, ended with em. Starts strong but finishes with a little b. :~ Guess not :( >>>-----> MikeO
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Nobody's posting anything. So I decided to ask a question. When you bold text or italicize it...which set of tags do you use? 1)
<b></b> and <i></i>
or 2)
<strong></strong> and <em></em>
I use the second 'cause Microsoft says to. :-D David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
MEEKNESS, n. Uncommon patience in planning a revenge that is worth while. The Devil's Dictionary, Ambrose BierceFirst choice: / and /; as was mentioned above, less typing. -- Andrew.
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Christian Graus wrote: Where and why do Microsoft say the second set is preferred ? Don't know, but anything that only works in IE should be preferred by MS :) I would do the same thing. Crivo Automated Credit Assessment
Any browser that doesn't support EM and STRONG are non-conforming and should be avoided. It would be more appropriate to bash such browsers and the company/individuals that create them then it is to bash MS. William E. Kempf
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I use the first because I am ANTI-MICROSOFT. STRONG and EM are just evil html tags set forth by Bill Gates to take all of our computing freedom away. Well, actually, I use B/I because I am lazy. Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?
<rant> I despise MS bashing (or bashing of any company or individual for that matter). In this case the bashing is doubly offensive because it's unwarranted to the topic. </rant> STRONG and EM are standard tags specified by the W3C. See here. As far as I know MS had nothing to do with the adoption of these tags, and the recommendation to use them instead of <b> and <i> is made by the W3C, not by MS, no matter if the MSDN text gives you the impression it comes from MS or not. Way too many people in this thread think this is a MS thing, which indicates they really don't understand the standard that they are supposedly defending against MS's "evil influence". The bashers are, once again, too quick on the draw. William E. Kempf
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I'm interested - I write HTML every day, and I did not know the second set. ( It's hardly my forte, I tend to get mostly the COM/C++ stuff at work as that is what I am good at, but I do write some asp as well ) Where and why do Microsoft say the second set is preferred ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
Christian Graus wrote: Where and why do Microsoft say the second set is preferred ? Don't know, but anything that only works in IE should be preferred by MS :) I would do the same thing. Crivo Automated Credit Assessment
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Nobody's posting anything. So I decided to ask a question. When you bold text or italicize it...which set of tags do you use? 1)
<b></b> and <i></i>
or 2)
<strong></strong> and <em></em>
I use the second 'cause Microsoft says to. :-D David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
MEEKNESS, n. Uncommon patience in planning a revenge that is worth while. The Devil's Dictionary, Ambrose BierceThe reason <strong> and <em> are recommended over <b> and <i> is because they to not mislead the author into believing the specified text will be in bold or italics. The web designer could use CSS to make <b> text all lower-case and overlined in purple :).
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Nobody's posting anything. So I decided to ask a question. When you bold text or italicize it...which set of tags do you use? 1)
<b></b> and <i></i>
or 2)
<strong></strong> and <em></em>
I use the second 'cause Microsoft says to. :-D David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
MEEKNESS, n. Uncommon patience in planning a revenge that is worth while. The Devil's Dictionary, Ambrose Bierce -
<rant> I despise MS bashing (or bashing of any company or individual for that matter). In this case the bashing is doubly offensive because it's unwarranted to the topic. </rant> STRONG and EM are standard tags specified by the W3C. See here. As far as I know MS had nothing to do with the adoption of these tags, and the recommendation to use them instead of <b> and <i> is made by the W3C, not by MS, no matter if the MSDN text gives you the impression it comes from MS or not. Way too many people in this thread think this is a MS thing, which indicates they really don't understand the standard that they are supposedly defending against MS's "evil influence". The bashers are, once again, too quick on the draw. William E. Kempf
William E. Kempf wrote: STRONG and EM are standard tags specified by the W3C. See here. As far as I know MS had nothing to do with the adoption of these tags, and the recommendation to use them instead of and is made by the W3C, not by MS I totally agree with this. In a previous life I was involved in the design and implemention of a multimedia authoring suite(*) that supported HTML and (draft spec)XML and (draft spec)CSS, as a subset of what the whole tool could do. STRONG and EM were the W3C recommendations. When I write HTML I tend to use B and I because they are more convenient. Microsoft did recommend a whole slew of tags, as did Netscape, but as far as I can remember these were not part of that, from either Microsoft or Netscape. (*)The authoring suite never made it market - when Netscape gave their source away the competitive advantage was lost (cost of entry to competitors was significantly lowered), and the project died. Cheers Stephen Kellett -- Memory Validator. Faster Leak Detection, Better Analysis. http://www.softwareverify.com http://www.objmedia.demon.co.uk
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William E. Kempf wrote: STRONG and EM are standard tags specified by the W3C. See here. As far as I know MS had nothing to do with the adoption of these tags, and the recommendation to use them instead of and is made by the W3C, not by MS I totally agree with this. In a previous life I was involved in the design and implemention of a multimedia authoring suite(*) that supported HTML and (draft spec)XML and (draft spec)CSS, as a subset of what the whole tool could do. STRONG and EM were the W3C recommendations. When I write HTML I tend to use B and I because they are more convenient. Microsoft did recommend a whole slew of tags, as did Netscape, but as far as I can remember these were not part of that, from either Microsoft or Netscape. (*)The authoring suite never made it market - when Netscape gave their source away the competitive advantage was lost (cost of entry to competitors was significantly lowered), and the project died. Cheers Stephen Kellett -- Memory Validator. Faster Leak Detection, Better Analysis. http://www.softwareverify.com http://www.objmedia.demon.co.uk
Nuts, it wasn't all meant to come out bold! Stephen Kellett -- Memory Validator. Faster Leak Detection, Better Analysis. http://www.softwareverify.com http://www.objmedia.demon.co.uk
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Because Microsoft wants to own the standard. They also want to own the standard we all know as "day" and "night". However, significant evidence that "day" and "night" have both been happening for a considerable amount of time before Microsoft became incorporated is placing a speed bump in their plans. Don't be fool, though. The [Micorosft] lawyers think they might have found a loophole. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
I think Mr Morden can help with this. Stephen Kellett -- Memory Validator. Faster Leak Detection, Better Analysis. http://www.softwareverify.com http://www.objmedia.demon.co.uk
