Irresponsability

Rob Graham

Le Centriste wrote:

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I buy very few "made in china" goods (all though I recognize that it is impossible to completely avoid Chinese content in some things, like electronics). I prefer "made in America" even if it costs a bit more (you get what you pay for). I'll even stoop to the occasional Canadian or French import...;P

Red Stateler

Le Centriste wrote:

It works in your imagination.

It neither works in reality or my imagination. That's just the approach.

Rob Graham

No, based on his reply to me, he actually believes that bullshit.

Le centriste

I think then that you are a responsible consumer, but you probably do not represent the average North American. For instance, most supermarkets here only carry chinese garlic. It takes 2 weeks to one month to get it here, and it is half rotten when we buy it. I found a place where they have local garlic, and the difference is amazing, and it does not cost more, especially since I just threw the chinese one in the trash.

Rob Graham wrote:

I'll even stoop to the occasional Canadian or French import...

:->

----- If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby. -- Unknown God is the only being who, to rule, does not need to exist. -- Charles Baudelaire

Brady Kelly

Red Stateler wrote:

Arguably Iraq is "worse", but primarily because the shackles of an oppresive dictatorship were removed.

Maybe the same applies to all the world the problems you attribute to the rise of atheism. The shackles of an oppressive dictatorship are being removed, and for a while people will experience trouble getting used to their new-found freedom.

Brady Kelly

Red Stateler wrote:

Arguably Iraq is "worse", but primarily because the shackles of an oppresive dictatorship were removed.

Brady Kelly

Red Stateler wrote:

China is a different matter altogether. The West has decided (wisely or not) to battle its communism with capitalism rather than war. Whether or not that will work remains to be seen.

And the effects of that war are begining to be seen, with accusations of inferior quality merchandise flying between the US and China. At least the US has it half won, China is fighting on capitalist terms.

GrinderDev

If we would just invade Canada, Mexico, and Venezuela the USA would have plenty of resources and we can tell the rest of the liberal world to pound sand.

Chris Kaiser

Red Stateler wrote:

Is it your opinion that a dictator responsible for killing hundreds of thousands of his own people (if not millions) is preferable?

Than an additional million that have died as a result of our invasion? Good question. We killed a million to save hundreds of thousands.

This statement was never false.

Red Stateler

Brady Kelly wrote:

Maybe the same applies to all the world the problems you attribute to the rise of atheism. The shackles of an oppressive dictatorship are being removed, and for a while people will experience trouble getting used to their new-found freedom.

America's shackles were removed over 200 years ago. Liberalism is slowly reapplying them.

KaRl

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Brady Kelly

I somewhat tongue-in-cheek meant the shackles of organised religion on the whole world, not just America. At national level our shackles were removed in 1994. I italicise our because before then my white skin meant very few shackles except for Christian National Education[^], but I was already educated by 1994.

eggsovereasy

Stunning

led mike

More (D)espeir Logic Prism nonsense. Bush's statement was directed at "the Middle east". You cannot argue the point by limiting the conversation to Iraq.

VonHagNDaz

ive found a few grocery stores around my town that sell only local foods, either from the county, or the state. ive head that local produce is better for people with allegries.

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Lost User

Red Stateler wrote:

Is it your opinion that a dictator responsible for killing hundreds of thousands of his own people (if not millions) is preferable?

Do you care about Iraqi lives?

Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

Red Stateler

fat_boy wrote:

Do you care about Iraqi lives?

I think a nuke would have been more convenient.

Jorgen Sigvardsson

The need of the many outweighs the need of the few. Or was it the other way around? I forget...

-- Broadcast simultaneously one year in the future

KaRl

"Kill 'em all, God will sort them out", like in the good ol' time, hmm?

brianwelsch

And we all know, the best thing to do with spilled wine is to let it soak into the carpet and just leave a stain. It's pointless to argue over the fact that it shouldn't have been spilled in the first place. Instead, figure out the best way to clean it up. -- modified at 15:20 Wednesday 29th August, 2007 [spelling]

BW

Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil Peart