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    Perhaps you'd like to give some answers to the accusations made against you in this thread[^] Fred

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      Perhaps you'd like to give some answers to the accusations made against you in this thread[^] Fred

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      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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      Fred_Smith wrote:

      accusations made against you

      :confused: I have outlined about the approach we can take in this case against that BuzzyCode over here: http://www.codeproject.com/lounge.asp?msg=2207141#xx2207141xx[^]

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        Fred_Smith wrote:

        accusations made against you

        :confused: I have outlined about the approach we can take in this case against that BuzzyCode over here: http://www.codeproject.com/lounge.asp?msg=2207141#xx2207141xx[^]

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        Rajesh R Subramanian
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        From the link:

        I have been personally reporting quite a few of the articles to be vehemently plagairizing.

        So, if you find them not reacting even after you reporting plagiarism, then why are you associated with them as one of the "Master minds behind dotnetspider"? (Read at dotnetspider)


        Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->ßRÅhmmÃ<-·´¯`·.

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          Fred_Smith wrote:

          accusations made against you

          :confused: I have outlined about the approach we can take in this case against that BuzzyCode over here: http://www.codeproject.com/lounge.asp?msg=2207141#xx2207141xx[^]

          Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage Tech Gossips

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          OK - just that you were mentioned in that thread a couple of times, of being associated with this lot in some way... for your own sake, it may be as well for you to make your position quite clear. Fred

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            Fred_Smith wrote:

            accusations made against you

            :confused: I have outlined about the approach we can take in this case against that BuzzyCode over here: http://www.codeproject.com/lounge.asp?msg=2207141#xx2207141xx[^]

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            jith iii
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            My god:confused: you and the author of that plagiarized article you mentioned there, are working in the same company.:~ :~ .Anyway it's not an exact rip off.

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              From the link:

              I have been personally reporting quite a few of the articles to be vehemently plagairizing.

              So, if you find them not reacting even after you reporting plagiarism, then why are you associated with them as one of the "Master minds behind dotnetspider"? (Read at dotnetspider)


              Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->ßRÅhmmÃ<-·´¯`·.

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              brahmma wrote:

              Master minds behind dotnetspider

              I don't think I have been doing any architecture help for Dotnetspider other than helping newbies in their basic questions in .NET. You can actually check out my profile which shows my contribution: http://www.dotnetspider.com/profiles/ViewProfile.aspx?UserId=deepaknet[^] Some one else was suspecting me as involving in an espionage system. Should I be doing a spy work, I don't think I should be maintaining the same profile across? Wouldn't that be the case? I don't derive any monetary benefits thereon. In fact, I recieved an email that I can signup for Google AdSense Revenue Sharing too. But I haven't accepted that proposal since for the reason, I use their forums purely on one goal: "Helping out little new fresh graduates just into career into thier programming troubleshooting". I do this on my personal Internet which is just either a weak dialup or my friend who has a Airtel Broadband during late nights. I think if this trend of plagairism is too much on Spider, I should reconsider my voluntary technical help there, seriously and seriously.

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                My god:confused: you and the author of that plagiarized article you mentioned there, are working in the same company.:~ :~ .Anyway it's not an exact rip off.

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                jith - iii wrote:

                there are working in the same company

                Nishant knows us both. But I have personally unlinked him from my personal BlogRoll for the same reasons. I hate such people in all times, from all quarters. As a token gesture, I have removed my profile from Dotnetspider and pointed to my homepage. Now it would just show the words: You may like to visit my personal homepage for more details. Thank you Deepak

                Anyway it's not an exact rip off.

                The degree of ripoff is immaterial. An iota of poison is enough to make the pot of milk toxic. At least a line of courtesy to the original, could have been appreciated. :)

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                  OK - just that you were mentioned in that thread a couple of times, of being associated with this lot in some way... for your own sake, it may be as well for you to make your position quite clear. Fred

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                  Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                  Fred, First I thank you for bringing me the other Lounge Thread, which was waiting for my answer. I check my emails not that frequently. I am trying to make things clear and I don't have any concrete relationships with Spider & Co. As a token gesture, here is my standpoint: http://www.codeproject.com/lounge.asp?msg=2207199#xx2207199xx[^]

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                    brahmma wrote:

                    Master minds behind dotnetspider

                    I don't think I have been doing any architecture help for Dotnetspider other than helping newbies in their basic questions in .NET. You can actually check out my profile which shows my contribution: http://www.dotnetspider.com/profiles/ViewProfile.aspx?UserId=deepaknet[^] Some one else was suspecting me as involving in an espionage system. Should I be doing a spy work, I don't think I should be maintaining the same profile across? Wouldn't that be the case? I don't derive any monetary benefits thereon. In fact, I recieved an email that I can signup for Google AdSense Revenue Sharing too. But I haven't accepted that proposal since for the reason, I use their forums purely on one goal: "Helping out little new fresh graduates just into career into thier programming troubleshooting". I do this on my personal Internet which is just either a weak dialup or my friend who has a Airtel Broadband during late nights. I think if this trend of plagairism is too much on Spider, I should reconsider my voluntary technical help there, seriously and seriously.

                    Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage Tech Gossips

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                    jith iii
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                    Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:

                    Some one else was suspecting me as involving in an espionage system

                    nope!! Only thing is,as Nish said ,since your name is listed over there and also because you are one of the most active CPian, you could give a correct picture. The main question was I guess ,whether dotnetspider and buzycode are same or not. -- modified at 6:30 Friday 31st August, 2007

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                      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:

                      Some one else was suspecting me as involving in an espionage system

                      nope!! Only thing is,as Nish said ,since your name is listed over there and also because you are one of the most active CPian, you could give a correct picture. The main question was I guess ,whether dotnetspider and buzycode are same or not. -- modified at 6:30 Friday 31st August, 2007

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                      AFAIK, I could not see a link to BuzzyCode from Spider site. Since I am also just a very casual, very ordinary, dumb member there. But they have a very large network of sites. Without delving into a deeper search, just as a FIR (First Information Report), the following are the sites that I could recall as sister sites of Dotnetspider: 1) TonyJohn.com[^] 2) SpiderKerala.com[^] 3) IndianStudyChannel.com[^] 4) SQLSpider.com[^] They might be having plethora of underground sites as well. Neither I have time nor I have resources to research on all those nor they fall within my realm.

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                        brahmma wrote:

                        Master minds behind dotnetspider

                        I don't think I have been doing any architecture help for Dotnetspider other than helping newbies in their basic questions in .NET. You can actually check out my profile which shows my contribution: http://www.dotnetspider.com/profiles/ViewProfile.aspx?UserId=deepaknet[^] Some one else was suspecting me as involving in an espionage system. Should I be doing a spy work, I don't think I should be maintaining the same profile across? Wouldn't that be the case? I don't derive any monetary benefits thereon. In fact, I recieved an email that I can signup for Google AdSense Revenue Sharing too. But I haven't accepted that proposal since for the reason, I use their forums purely on one goal: "Helping out little new fresh graduates just into career into thier programming troubleshooting". I do this on my personal Internet which is just either a weak dialup or my friend who has a Airtel Broadband during late nights. I think if this trend of plagairism is too much on Spider, I should reconsider my voluntary technical help there, seriously and seriously.

                        Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage Tech Gossips

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                        Firstly, I did not mean to accuse you of anything... the remark about you being a mole was missing a :-) You have also explained yourself reasonably well, and I am convinced you are not the culprit of any plagarization. However...

                        Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:

                        I think if this trend of plagairism is too much on Spider, I should reconsider my voluntary technical help there

                        You mentioned in a thread you linked to that you have been pointing out this trend for quite a while... why have you not reconsidered your contribution previously, or reported these people to the relevant authority (web hosts, site owners of plagarized sites etc). It seems to me you've been turning a "blind eye" to this for quite some time judging by how long these ripoff sites have been operarating.

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                          Firstly, I did not mean to accuse you of anything... the remark about you being a mole was missing a :-) You have also explained yourself reasonably well, and I am convinced you are not the culprit of any plagarization. However...

                          Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:

                          I think if this trend of plagairism is too much on Spider, I should reconsider my voluntary technical help there

                          You mentioned in a thread you linked to that you have been pointing out this trend for quite a while... why have you not reconsidered your contribution previously, or reported these people to the relevant authority (web hosts, site owners of plagarized sites etc). It seems to me you've been turning a "blind eye" to this for quite some time judging by how long these ripoff sites have been operarating.

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                          Damn! Does that mean I have to put away the gallows.

                          Roger Irrelevant "he's completely hatstand"

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                            Perhaps you'd like to give some answers to the accusations made against you in this thread[^] Fred

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                            Zoltan Balazs
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                            I guess the real question is who is this Tony John person?

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                              I guess the real question is who is this Tony John person?

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                              Tony John might not be a nick name. Here is the guy. http://www.codeproject.com/script/profile/whos_who.asp?vt=arts&id=449701 In india we could hardly find a guy related to software who is not a member of CP

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                                I guess the real question is who is this Tony John person?

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                                He is the webmaster of Dotnetspider and sister group of website. He has his personal homepage over here: http://www.tonyjohn.com/[^]

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                                  AFAIK, I could not see a link to BuzzyCode from Spider site. Since I am also just a very casual, very ordinary, dumb member there. But they have a very large network of sites. Without delving into a deeper search, just as a FIR (First Information Report), the following are the sites that I could recall as sister sites of Dotnetspider: 1) TonyJohn.com[^] 2) SpiderKerala.com[^] 3) IndianStudyChannel.com[^] 4) SQLSpider.com[^] They might be having plethora of underground sites as well. Neither I have time nor I have resources to research on all those nor they fall within my realm.

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                                  Nish Nishant
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                                  Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:

                                  AFAIK, I could not see a link to BuzzyCode from Spider site.

                                  Both BuzzyCode and DotNetSpider seem to be operated by LogicsLab (you can see that the offshoring/outsourcing links from both sites go there; and both sites use the same Instant chat IDs too). So there is a very clear connection between the 2 sites. This automatically incriminates Tony John too - since he's the guy with the more visible public profile. But it is possible that a partner of his may be running BuzzyCode without Tony John's approval. In that case it may be in the best interests of Tony John and DotNetSpider to disassociate themselves from LogicsLab.

                                  Regards, Nish


                                  Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                  My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                                    jith - iii wrote:

                                    there are working in the same company

                                    Nishant knows us both. But I have personally unlinked him from my personal BlogRoll for the same reasons. I hate such people in all times, from all quarters. As a token gesture, I have removed my profile from Dotnetspider and pointed to my homepage. Now it would just show the words: You may like to visit my personal homepage for more details. Thank you Deepak

                                    Anyway it's not an exact rip off.

                                    The degree of ripoff is immaterial. An iota of poison is enough to make the pot of milk toxic. At least a line of courtesy to the original, could have been appreciated. :)

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                                    Nish Nishant
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                                    Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:

                                    Nishant knows us both.

                                    Hey Vasudevan. I do know you and have met you a few times at various MVP meetups (most recently at the 2007 summit in Redmond). But I have never met this Tony John character nor do I know who he is.

                                    Regards, Nish


                                    Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                    My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                                      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:

                                      Nishant knows us both.

                                      Hey Vasudevan. I do know you and have met you a few times at various MVP meetups (most recently at the 2007 summit in Redmond). But I have never met this Tony John character nor do I know who he is.

                                      Regards, Nish


                                      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                      My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                                      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                      But I have never met this Tony John character

                                      True Nish. Me too. It is just the profile name @Dotnetspider that I also know. I haven't met him in person either.

                                      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                      nor do I know who he is

                                      Actually, since he is also a Keralite (I believe, since he most of his sites are like SpiderKerala etc), I just thought you might have met him sometime. It was a blind guess. ;)

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                                        Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:

                                        AFAIK, I could not see a link to BuzzyCode from Spider site.

                                        Both BuzzyCode and DotNetSpider seem to be operated by LogicsLab (you can see that the offshoring/outsourcing links from both sites go there; and both sites use the same Instant chat IDs too). So there is a very clear connection between the 2 sites. This automatically incriminates Tony John too - since he's the guy with the more visible public profile. But it is possible that a partner of his may be running BuzzyCode without Tony John's approval. In that case it may be in the best interests of Tony John and DotNetSpider to disassociate themselves from LogicsLab.

                                        Regards, Nish


                                        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                        My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                                        I really don't know why people are so much behind 'money-minded'. They just do a good community service website like Dotnetspider but behind the scenes one dirty website (on par pornography :mad:) like BuzzyCode is being operated. Regret if I am harsh. But I strongly feel that Plagarism or Credit Theft must be made synonymous to Pornography. The original author really breaks down on seeing his hard-blood-shed article earning credits for someone else ("the thief"). The Country's Law can be muted by these bullies but Nature's law would answer them.

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                                          Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:

                                          AFAIK, I could not see a link to BuzzyCode from Spider site.

                                          Both BuzzyCode and DotNetSpider seem to be operated by LogicsLab (you can see that the offshoring/outsourcing links from both sites go there; and both sites use the same Instant chat IDs too). So there is a very clear connection between the 2 sites. This automatically incriminates Tony John too - since he's the guy with the more visible public profile. But it is possible that a partner of his may be running BuzzyCode without Tony John's approval. In that case it may be in the best interests of Tony John and DotNetSpider to disassociate themselves from LogicsLab.

                                          Regards, Nish


                                          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                          My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                                          Hello everyone, I am Tony John, webmaster of dotnetspider. I came to this thread by following a Google alert about "dotnetspider". I found lot of discussions are going on about dotnetspider. As the owner and webmaster of dotnetspider, it is my responsibility to clarify certain points here: - I own dotnetspider.com and several other sites (AspSpider.NET, aspspider.* spiderkerala.com, tamilspider.com, indiastudychannel.com, asianspider.com, yoursmartkerala.com etc are some of them and few others are coming up). - I use Logic Labs as my offshore development company. They do a great job as an offshore partner. Recently, I have tightly integrated their services in dotnetspider, allowing clients to even directly contact Logic Labs through dotnetspider. - I have absolutely no relation with the BuzzyCode and I have never seen that site in the past. Today I learnt that it is owned by the same company that do offshore services for me. But unless it affects dotnetspider's reputation or business, I am not going to worry too much about it since it is not directly related to my business relation with Logic Labs. In one of the threads, Deepak Vasudevan mentioned:

                                          "Since it is an Indian website, I think, I am trying to see if we can approach the Intellectual Property Infringments in India or CyberCrime cell for a redressal."

                                          dotnetspider is registered in USA, not in India. Deepak, let me ask you one thing. You have been working very closely with me for past several months. You have given me valuable suggestions in the past and I have done a lot of changes in dotnetspider based on your feedback. You are even listed in [^] as a core member of spider team. It would have been nice if you had asked me directly before you post something silly about dotnetspider here! Now let me talk about the copy right violations. I have never copied articles and published. I have not requested anyone to do this for dotnetspider and do not encourage this. But dotnetspider may have published copied articles. And so is CodeProject. It is practically impossible for any website to completely stop this. While CodeProject is a well established website with several professional employees to identify most of the copied content and remove in a timely fashion, dotnetspider is basically a one man show. dotnetspider targets the freshers and developers in In

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