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    Ryan Roberts
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    It seems that David Cameron is proudly using a carbon offsetting firm[^] that pays Indian peasants to not use modern farming methods and basic mechanisation. It seems that a large part of this companies[^] business model is paying poor foreigners to use backbreaking devices that last saw the light of day in Victorian poor houses to absolve the guilt of rich westerners. Their website even hints at the use of child labour to power these devices. How can giving money for such purposes be considered even remotely ethical?

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      It seems that David Cameron is proudly using a carbon offsetting firm[^] that pays Indian peasants to not use modern farming methods and basic mechanisation. It seems that a large part of this companies[^] business model is paying poor foreigners to use backbreaking devices that last saw the light of day in Victorian poor houses to absolve the guilt of rich westerners. Their website even hints at the use of child labour to power these devices. How can giving money for such purposes be considered even remotely ethical?

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      R Giskard Reventlov
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      money, ethical: classic oxymoron especially when a politico is thrown into the mix. Anyway, what's the problem? Surely it's more important to stop the dastardly global warming than to worry about a few child labourers thousands of miles away that no one cares about? What would you have us do? Give up our life styles? Seriously, that will never happen: oridnary people will turn a blind eye to anything that would otherwise upset their apple cart and politicians know and use this to their advantage.

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        It seems that David Cameron is proudly using a carbon offsetting firm[^] that pays Indian peasants to not use modern farming methods and basic mechanisation. It seems that a large part of this companies[^] business model is paying poor foreigners to use backbreaking devices that last saw the light of day in Victorian poor houses to absolve the guilt of rich westerners. Their website even hints at the use of child labour to power these devices. How can giving money for such purposes be considered even remotely ethical?

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        Anything that helps stop AGW is good. Quit whining.:rolleyes:

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          money, ethical: classic oxymoron especially when a politico is thrown into the mix. Anyway, what's the problem? Surely it's more important to stop the dastardly global warming than to worry about a few child labourers thousands of miles away that no one cares about? What would you have us do? Give up our life styles? Seriously, that will never happen: oridnary people will turn a blind eye to anything that would otherwise upset their apple cart and politicians know and use this to their advantage.

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          Indeed, the deep greens would have us operating treadle pumps and burning cow pats. Their propaganda is beginning to have unpleasant consequences for the developing world though - human nature being what it is we will pay them to stay undeveloped. You would hope that a nation like India would be well enough governed to kick these jokers out.

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            Indeed, the deep greens would have us operating treadle pumps and burning cow pats. Their propaganda is beginning to have unpleasant consequences for the developing world though - human nature being what it is we will pay them to stay undeveloped. You would hope that a nation like India would be well enough governed to kick these jokers out.

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            Ryan Roberts wrote:

            You would hope that a nation like India would be well enough governed to kick these jokers out

            I think that is exactly what will happen: India wants to grow and it can't do that with the yoke of GW strung around its neck.

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              It seems that David Cameron is proudly using a carbon offsetting firm[^] that pays Indian peasants to not use modern farming methods and basic mechanisation. It seems that a large part of this companies[^] business model is paying poor foreigners to use backbreaking devices that last saw the light of day in Victorian poor houses to absolve the guilt of rich westerners. Their website even hints at the use of child labour to power these devices. How can giving money for such purposes be considered even remotely ethical?

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              GuyThiebaut
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              I had not heard of this - sounds pretty awful to me. One scam I did hear of is some Chinese companies deliberately increase their pollution, they then apply for credits(money) from the West to help decrease their pollution. Where tis gets really spicy is that the directors of these companies then pocket the money with no intention of reducing their pollution. Hence pollution increases and our money is taken for personal greed.:mad:

              You always pass failure on the way to success.

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                It seems that David Cameron is proudly using a carbon offsetting firm[^] that pays Indian peasants to not use modern farming methods and basic mechanisation. It seems that a large part of this companies[^] business model is paying poor foreigners to use backbreaking devices that last saw the light of day in Victorian poor houses to absolve the guilt of rich westerners. Their website even hints at the use of child labour to power these devices. How can giving money for such purposes be considered even remotely ethical?

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                Great, isn't it - esp coming on the same day as teh Tories blather on about not losing their soul[^] They made a bad choice with Cameron. Trouble was though - there wasn't a goood one! (Quel surprise..)

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                  Indeed, the deep greens would have us operating treadle pumps and burning cow pats. Their propaganda is beginning to have unpleasant consequences for the developing world though - human nature being what it is we will pay them to stay undeveloped. You would hope that a nation like India would be well enough governed to kick these jokers out.

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                  Vikram A Punathambekar
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                  Ryan Roberts wrote:

                  a nation like India would be well enough governed

                  What kind of rubbish do they print in your newspapers? India is well governed? :(( :laugh: :sigh:

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                    It seems that David Cameron is proudly using a carbon offsetting firm[^] that pays Indian peasants to not use modern farming methods and basic mechanisation. It seems that a large part of this companies[^] business model is paying poor foreigners to use backbreaking devices that last saw the light of day in Victorian poor houses to absolve the guilt of rich westerners. Their website even hints at the use of child labour to power these devices. How can giving money for such purposes be considered even remotely ethical?

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                    Dont forget, EcoNazis are not interested in helping the poor, despite using the theoretical impact of GW on Africa's poor as one of their weapons. No, these peole are ONLY interested in dismantling the modern capitolist system. Their only motivation is envy of their peers who have acchieved more material success than they have by entering this capitolistic world and succeeding.

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                      It seems that David Cameron is proudly using a carbon offsetting firm[^] that pays Indian peasants to not use modern farming methods and basic mechanisation. It seems that a large part of this companies[^] business model is paying poor foreigners to use backbreaking devices that last saw the light of day in Victorian poor houses to absolve the guilt of rich westerners. Their website even hints at the use of child labour to power these devices. How can giving money for such purposes be considered even remotely ethical?

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                      Ryan Roberts wrote:

                      How can giving money for such purposes be considered even remotely ethical?

                      It makes rich folk feel better. Especially the impressionable sorts. Especially the ones with beach-front property... Oh wait, you said "ethical". :rolleyes:

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