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  • P Pete OHanlon

    Eric Goedhart wrote:

    Amsterdam can be (it's up to the city counsel to decide) a Microsoft free zone

    Isn't that a bit extreme? What happens if you live in Amsterdam and want to play on your XBox? Have the local wardens turned up and confiscated them before burning them in huge piles in the local city centre?

    Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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    Paul Watson
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    "Sir, your Windows laptop will be returned to you* when you exit the Microsof free zone. Here is your ticket." * After being reformatted with Ubuntu Red Light District Beaver Edition v69.96.

    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

    Andy Brummer wrote:

    Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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    • E Eric Goedhart

      Hi, In the year 2012 Amsterdam can be (it's up to the city counsel to decide) a Microsoft free zone were all software will be replaced by open source software(Linux and Open Office etc.), a step that is previously taken by two other European cities (Munich and Vienna). In The Netherlands the usage of open software is promoted by the states economic department in an attempt to cut licences fees and it's expected that most state organisations will follow. Since this is becoming a European trend I think the impact will be huge for Microsoft and other companies such as Oracle. I was wondering if this is just taking place in Europe or it’s also taking place in other countries outside Europe? (and Microsoft is in the fight of losing a highly profitable market to open source software).

      With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart Interbritt

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      Paul Watson
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      Markets change. Companies change. Business models change. Revenue streams change. We'll be fine.

      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

      Andy Brummer wrote:

      Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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      • P Paul Watson

        Markets change. Companies change. Business models change. Revenue streams change. We'll be fine.

        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

        Andy Brummer wrote:

        Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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        Pete OHanlon
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        Paul Watson wrote:

        Markets change. Companies change. Business models change. Revenue streams change.

        Shift happens.

        Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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        • O originSH

          Eric Goedhart wrote:

          open software is promoted by the states economic department in an attempt to cut licences fees

          I don't quite understand why they think cutting the costs is a good idea. If they don't pay license fee's the only way programmers will get paid is from support fees. If the end users don't need support or use someone else then the programmers don't get paid. If the programmers don't get paid then the industry disappears and all this wonderful open source code is maintained by n00b hobby programmers or ex professional programmers who are miffed at having to get different jobs which they don't enjoy as much. Or am I missing something here? Please note I'm not arguing about open source being bad ... just people wanting the programmers to not get paid.

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          Shog9 0
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          originSH wrote:

          If they don't pay license fee's the only way programmers will get paid is from support fees.

          Just an idle thought on that... If i'm running the town Gov't, and i switch our IT budget from, say, 30% license fees paid an external entity to 30% more funds paid to internal support staff, then i've just increased my staff. And, consequently, my power. Muahahahahah...

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          I don't care what you consider witty, but at least I do not blather on posting nonsense like Jim Crafton.

          -- Stringcheese, humbled by Crafton's ability to string together multiple sentences

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          • E Eric Goedhart

            Hi, In the year 2012 Amsterdam can be (it's up to the city counsel to decide) a Microsoft free zone were all software will be replaced by open source software(Linux and Open Office etc.), a step that is previously taken by two other European cities (Munich and Vienna). In The Netherlands the usage of open software is promoted by the states economic department in an attempt to cut licences fees and it's expected that most state organisations will follow. Since this is becoming a European trend I think the impact will be huge for Microsoft and other companies such as Oracle. I was wondering if this is just taking place in Europe or it’s also taking place in other countries outside Europe? (and Microsoft is in the fight of losing a highly profitable market to open source software).

            With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart Interbritt

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            What are they smokin' over there? :cool:

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            • P PIEBALDconsult

              What are they smokin' over there? :cool:

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              Dan Neely
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              stallmans shorts X|

              -- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.

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              • O originSH

                Eric Goedhart wrote:

                open software is promoted by the states economic department in an attempt to cut licences fees

                I don't quite understand why they think cutting the costs is a good idea. If they don't pay license fee's the only way programmers will get paid is from support fees. If the end users don't need support or use someone else then the programmers don't get paid. If the programmers don't get paid then the industry disappears and all this wonderful open source code is maintained by n00b hobby programmers or ex professional programmers who are miffed at having to get different jobs which they don't enjoy as much. Or am I missing something here? Please note I'm not arguing about open source being bad ... just people wanting the programmers to not get paid.

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                You are missing nothing here at all.


                Modo vincis, modo vinceris.

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                • S Shog9 0

                  originSH wrote:

                  If they don't pay license fee's the only way programmers will get paid is from support fees.

                  Just an idle thought on that... If i'm running the town Gov't, and i switch our IT budget from, say, 30% license fees paid an external entity to 30% more funds paid to internal support staff, then i've just increased my staff. And, consequently, my power. Muahahahahah...

                  ----

                  I don't care what you consider witty, but at least I do not blather on posting nonsense like Jim Crafton.

                  -- Stringcheese, humbled by Crafton's ability to string together multiple sentences

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                  originSH
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                  Yep X( damned short sighted and power hungry pencil pushers X(

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                  • P Paul Watson

                    Oh God, Marc. That is such dramatic bullshit. You should have taken up Mills & Boon writing :P

                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                    Andy Brummer wrote:

                    Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                    Marc Clifton
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                    Paul Watson wrote:

                    Oh God, Marc. That is such dramatic bullsh*t.

                    Entertaining though, wasn't it? Marc

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Paul Watson wrote:

                      Oh God, Marc. That is such dramatic bullsh*t.

                      Entertaining though, wasn't it? Marc

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                      Paul Watson
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                      Always :)

                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                      Andy Brummer wrote:

                      Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                      • O originSH

                        Eric Goedhart wrote:

                        open software is promoted by the states economic department in an attempt to cut licences fees

                        I don't quite understand why they think cutting the costs is a good idea. If they don't pay license fee's the only way programmers will get paid is from support fees. If the end users don't need support or use someone else then the programmers don't get paid. If the programmers don't get paid then the industry disappears and all this wonderful open source code is maintained by n00b hobby programmers or ex professional programmers who are miffed at having to get different jobs which they don't enjoy as much. Or am I missing something here? Please note I'm not arguing about open source being bad ... just people wanting the programmers to not get paid.

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                        PIEBALDconsult
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                        Same with teachers; everyone agrees that teachers are underpaid, but don't want their taxes to increase in order to pay the teachers better. "You don't want to pay too little for that muffler either."

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