Would be nice if Microsoft...
-
[Hissy Fit On] Would be nice if Microsoft spent a bit more time on product stability than new features. I love new features, but during the betas of VS 2008, the product crashed most of the time when I would exit it. Using the betas, it was common practice for me to exit before moving to another project, I found that if I switch between several web projects, it would occationally die in addition to the common crash on exit. I know there is a lot going on with VS, but today, after installing the RTM and updating a couple web applications from their breaking changes (even closing down VS on each project), on the third project when I went to close it, VS hung and I had to use task manager to kill it. While I can still work with the product and this only is a problem when I am exiting, it would be nice if extra work went into making it a bit more stable on exit. Of course, it could always be the possibility that it is only one my system and that Microsoft is directly targeting me ;) [Hissy Fit Off]
Rocky <>< Blog Post: Updating VS 2008 B2 Websites to RTM Tech Blog Post: Cheap Biofuels and Synthetics coming soon?
If you're working with a beta version than you are effectively beta testing for Microsoft. So if you care you need to log in those bugs and have Microsoft fix them in due time. Personally I don't install beta stuff on my production PC, and I like to wait even after the 1st release till a service pack come out on a new product to feel confident in looking into migrating to the new version. IF you've ever had to deploy a new product to millions of uses you would know how difficult it is just to manage the logistics on the entire operation! I am currently looking at three Open Source projects and I've sent request for help to each owner and I get the same feeling the project owners don't seem to care :) ... only got one reply, very terse but no follow up.
--- Yours Truly, The One and Only! web: devmentor.org Design, Code, Test, Debug
-
I agree with you as a developers perspective. But if they don't innovate new thing constantly they wouldn't be the leader in IT. You have to see it from the Business perspective too.
StephenVinck wrote:
if they don't innovate new thing constantly they wouldn't be the leader in IT.
Who's innovating? Certainly not Microsoft. Everything they do has come from somewhere else first (quite a lot from Xerox PARC way back when), Microsoft grabs what already is, or looks to become popular and rehashes it (badly). Leaders in IT? No, definitely not. Leaders in marketing? Absolutely (or at least until they passed 50% market saturation, at which point marketing became irrelevant). Don't get me wrong, I appreciate that someone had to come along & make personal computing a commercially viable proposition & it if wasn't MS it would be someone else (Apple had a go too before MS's early deal with IBM & just look at what they're doing with their dominance in the portable music player market now). <Rant> At the same time it frustrates me that they make it so difficult at times (especially pushing proprietary technologies like .net) and now, as well as the end user, they have decided to start gouging the development community (the price of Developer Studio & MSDN has gone up dramatically over the last 5 years) that help make their platform so popular. </Rant>
T-Mac-Oz
-
[Hissy Fit On] Would be nice if Microsoft spent a bit more time on product stability than new features. I love new features, but during the betas of VS 2008, the product crashed most of the time when I would exit it. Using the betas, it was common practice for me to exit before moving to another project, I found that if I switch between several web projects, it would occationally die in addition to the common crash on exit. I know there is a lot going on with VS, but today, after installing the RTM and updating a couple web applications from their breaking changes (even closing down VS on each project), on the third project when I went to close it, VS hung and I had to use task manager to kill it. While I can still work with the product and this only is a problem when I am exiting, it would be nice if extra work went into making it a bit more stable on exit. Of course, it could always be the possibility that it is only one my system and that Microsoft is directly targeting me ;) [Hissy Fit Off]
Rocky <>< Blog Post: Updating VS 2008 B2 Websites to RTM Tech Blog Post: Cheap Biofuels and Synthetics coming soon?
-
[Hissy Fit On] Would be nice if Microsoft spent a bit more time on product stability than new features. I love new features, but during the betas of VS 2008, the product crashed most of the time when I would exit it. Using the betas, it was common practice for me to exit before moving to another project, I found that if I switch between several web projects, it would occationally die in addition to the common crash on exit. I know there is a lot going on with VS, but today, after installing the RTM and updating a couple web applications from their breaking changes (even closing down VS on each project), on the third project when I went to close it, VS hung and I had to use task manager to kill it. While I can still work with the product and this only is a problem when I am exiting, it would be nice if extra work went into making it a bit more stable on exit. Of course, it could always be the possibility that it is only one my system and that Microsoft is directly targeting me ;) [Hissy Fit Off]
Rocky <>< Blog Post: Updating VS 2008 B2 Websites to RTM Tech Blog Post: Cheap Biofuels and Synthetics coming soon?
Rocky Moore wrote:
I found that if I switch between several web projects, it would occationally die in addition to the common crash on exit.
This happens frequently in VS 2005 too.
Kevin
-
[Hissy Fit On] Would be nice if Microsoft spent a bit more time on product stability than new features. I love new features, but during the betas of VS 2008, the product crashed most of the time when I would exit it. Using the betas, it was common practice for me to exit before moving to another project, I found that if I switch between several web projects, it would occationally die in addition to the common crash on exit. I know there is a lot going on with VS, but today, after installing the RTM and updating a couple web applications from their breaking changes (even closing down VS on each project), on the third project when I went to close it, VS hung and I had to use task manager to kill it. While I can still work with the product and this only is a problem when I am exiting, it would be nice if extra work went into making it a bit more stable on exit. Of course, it could always be the possibility that it is only one my system and that Microsoft is directly targeting me ;) [Hissy Fit Off]
Rocky <>< Blog Post: Updating VS 2008 B2 Websites to RTM Tech Blog Post: Cheap Biofuels and Synthetics coming soon?
but... but... it's a beta.
MrPlankton
-
but... but... it's a beta.
MrPlankton
but.. but.. it's NOT a beta, I was saying RTM :)
Rocky <>< Blog Post: Silverlight goes Beta 2.0 Tech Blog Post: Cheap Biofuels and Synthetics coming soon?