Stage Hypnosis
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That does it then. I'm never getting married. I'm the jealous type you see. And you've planted a very bad seed in my head now. Argh. :-) Thanks for the info Tom. Senkwe And when God, who created the entire universe with all of its glories, decides to deliver a message to humanity, He WILL NOT use, as His messenger, a person on cable TV with a bad hairstyle.
Senkwe Chanda wrote: Thanks for the info Tom. No problem :) Cheers, Tom Archer Author - Inside C#, Visual C++.NET Bible
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Actually, hypnosis is simply a state where the subject is more open to suggestion. Here's an article on how it works. Cheers, Tom Archer Author - Inside C#, Visual C++.NET Bible
Tom Archer wrote: Here's an article on how it works. Hi Tom, is there any topic for which don't have the aprobate link ?? Good homework and good page... I bet you don't know this one... greetings ! Olli
Olli cause sometimes the world is as strange as me.... :rolleyes:
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Hi Tom, is there anything in the web where you don't have a link too?? Good homework anyway ! Try this one ... The end
Olli cause sometimes the world is as strange as me.... :rolleyes:
Olli wrote: is there anything in the web where you don't have a link too?? Good homework anyway ! Try this one ... The end :laugh: :laugh: Cheers, Tom Archer Author - Inside C#, Visual C++.NET Bible
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It's a huge pile of crap. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
But what do you think about people at the dentist, which are getting medicated and uhhh what horrible things else without any kind of nacosis... (when they are hypnotized of course) ??????????????????????????:confused:
Olli cause sometimes the world is as strange as me.... :rolleyes:
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I disagree. If you read the article very closely, it states that today's conventional wisdom concerning hypotism is that it focuses people on one specific task to the exclusion of all others. This includes not being insecure about others watching. How many times do people do silly things when they think others are not watching? We all grew up doing silly things like you saw on stage, but at a point we're taught that such behavior is unbecoming and not socially acceptable. However, with these mental barriers removed, people are much more open to doing silly and "fun" things that they would not ordinarily do. Cheers, Tom Archer Author - Inside C#, Visual C++.NET Bible
Tom Archer wrote: How many times do people do silly things when they think others are not watching? Oh, we've been watching, Tom. Did I forget to tell you about the web cams I put in your house? Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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In all seriousness, that's exactly what it means. You cannot make someone do something they don't want to do under hypnosis. It's the same with being drunk. If someone does something when they're drunk and says it was the alcohol, they're lying (to themselves mainly). All the alcohol did was to lower their inhibitions sufficiently to allow them to do whatever they were predisposed to doing in the first place. Cheers, Tom Archer Author - Inside C#, Visual C++.NET Bible
<yoda>Wise, Tom is!</yoda> I think more people should learn about self-hypnotism also and try putting themselves in a trance. Then I believe they'll get a purer understanding of what it's like. Although, I can say the being drunk analogy is a good example and shows how the person still is in control. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
"But everybody darlin' sometimes bites the hand that feeds." "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair." "Just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." Song: Breakdown - Album: Use Your Illusion II - Artist: Guns N' Roses -
I recently watched (on TV) a hypnotist "hypnotize" a group of about 4 men out of the audience at a comedy club. He made them do all sorts of stupid things like vigorously scatch their privates and rub their butts on members of the audience. I didn't smile once because I still believe it was fake. Is this stuff at all possible? In one scene he made them "believe" they were famous pianists. My questions is..(apart from "is this at all possible???") suppose I am from a culture that has no inkling of what the term pianist means. (I'm African incidentally and I'd say most of us wouldn't know what the term "pianist" refers to). If he hypnotised me and told me I was a pianist...what would happen? And when God, who created the entire universe with all of its glories, decides to deliver a message to humanity, He WILL NOT use, as His messenger, a person on cable TV with a bad hairstyle.
Hypnosis is real, and stage hypnosis is, in my opinion, not necessarily faked (there are always exceptions). When you are hypnotised your mind is in the same state it is when you are dreaming. When you are asleep, parts of your mind unecessary to survival shut down and head to the pub, while your senses become hyper-sensitive. You must have woken up one time because of a sharp noise or strange feeling (i.e. something walking up your leg) - thisis because your brain thought that 'it' may be a threat to you and so 'gives you back' full control of your mind. So, in essense, hypnosis is simply causing a person's brain to slip into sleep mode, causing hyper-sensitivity (though I disagree that this is anything more than normal), without loosing the control of the person. While the person is in this state, they view themselves as themselves inside a dream, and thus are able to attempt to do things they would not when concious, and respond to imagined stimuli (ever seen a hypnotised man try to fly and physically hurt himself when he is told he falls off of something?). My guess as a non-biologist is that all this is controlled by a chemical, and just like we can trick or bodies to believe they are pregnant (or is it the other way round?), hypnotists can trick your body into releasing another chemical which causes you to dream. Of course though, the person has to be relaxed for this process to work, and that is why hypnosis can fail if a person is fatigued or stressed. Think of when you last fell into a daydream - it's the same thing - you are dreaming but still fully concious. Now think again to when you have been reading a book before you went to bed, and then faintly remembered dreaming about the same story (I say faintly, because I am certain that you can never remember real dreams, only those "mind wanderings" you have when you drift out of sleep). Well, surely if the person is still concious, you can talk to them and place images into their heads with the same effect. If the brains sees all activities as taking place inside it's own dreams (i.e. it is creating the messages it is processing itself), surely it won't kick in with the "hey you wake up quick, this may be a threat" clause. Finally, one of the reasons I beleive many people cannot remember what they did when they were hypnotised is the same reason I stated above for not remembering sleep-time dreams. ____________________ David Wulff
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Tom Archer wrote: How many times do people do silly things when they think others are not watching? Oh, we've been watching, Tom. Did I forget to tell you about the web cams I put in your house? Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
:laugh: In all seriousness, this segues nicely into my soap box rant of the day concerning the political cause de jour. I am so sick and tired of hearing people on the news talk about how some neighbor or friend videotaped them without their knowledge and now they're emotionally destroyed. Hey, if you're that damn brittle, then do us all a favor and go live in a cave! Hell, one show the other day spoke of a female athlete that was videotaped in the university's dressing room by the coach. HOWEVER, the show continues, she managed to overcome that and go on to win a gold medal at the Olympics. Huh? They make it sound like what is little more than a peeking tom experience should be considering this awful, life-altering event akin to being physically attacked. Don't get me wrong. The guy's a pervert and should be fired. But get real. People have become so sensitive to any transgression that we've become a country of wimps and empotional basket-cases. The bottom line is that we live in a very voyeuristic society and I half expect that when I check into a hotel room or try clothes on in a clothier that someone might be watching me. So what? I'm not going to change my lifestyle because of something someone else might or might not be doing. (taking deep breath) I feel much better now :) Cheers, Tom Archer Author - Inside C#, Visual C++.NET Bible
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Tom Archer wrote: How many times do people do silly things when they think others are not watching? Oh, we've been watching, Tom. Did I forget to tell you about the web cams I put in your house? Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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Hmmm, sooooo, if I'm married...and I have someone hypnotize my wife, and she then proceeds to sleep with, the hypnotist say, then I should conclude that subconciously she really does want to? Don't know about that. Scary thought if you ask me. Senkwe And when God, who created the entire universe with all of its glories, decides to deliver a message to humanity, He WILL NOT use, as His messenger, a person on cable TV with a bad hairstyle.
Senkwe Chanda wrote: then I should conclude that subconciously she really does want to? Nine out of ten married women I've met want other guys or at least flirty attention. Just like guys look at other women wanting to plow their wheat fields. The question is, will they do it or just write the thought off. You can't blame a woman for this either. If you get married one day, do you think you'll never be attracted to another person as long as you are married? I doubt it. Hell, most guys will look at other women when they are on a first date. What you should do is never get married and sleep with many women as possible. Then, you'll save alimony later on. :) Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
"But everybody darlin' sometimes bites the hand that feeds." "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair." "Just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." Song: Breakdown - Album: Use Your Illusion II - Artist: Guns N' Roses -
:laugh: In all seriousness, this segues nicely into my soap box rant of the day concerning the political cause de jour. I am so sick and tired of hearing people on the news talk about how some neighbor or friend videotaped them without their knowledge and now they're emotionally destroyed. Hey, if you're that damn brittle, then do us all a favor and go live in a cave! Hell, one show the other day spoke of a female athlete that was videotaped in the university's dressing room by the coach. HOWEVER, the show continues, she managed to overcome that and go on to win a gold medal at the Olympics. Huh? They make it sound like what is little more than a peeking tom experience should be considering this awful, life-altering event akin to being physically attacked. Don't get me wrong. The guy's a pervert and should be fired. But get real. People have become so sensitive to any transgression that we've become a country of wimps and empotional basket-cases. The bottom line is that we live in a very voyeuristic society and I half expect that when I check into a hotel room or try clothes on in a clothier that someone might be watching me. So what? I'm not going to change my lifestyle because of something someone else might or might not be doing. (taking deep breath) I feel much better now :) Cheers, Tom Archer Author - Inside C#, Visual C++.NET Bible
Tom Archer wrote: The bottom line is that we live in a very voyeuristic society and I half expect that when I check into a hotel room or try clothes on in a clothier that someone might be watching me. So what? I'm not going to change my lifestyle because of something someone else might or might not be doing. Well said :-) Cheers, Joao Vaz The loved ones never really leave us , they are always alive on our hearts and minds.
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:laugh: In all seriousness, this segues nicely into my soap box rant of the day concerning the political cause de jour. I am so sick and tired of hearing people on the news talk about how some neighbor or friend videotaped them without their knowledge and now they're emotionally destroyed. Hey, if you're that damn brittle, then do us all a favor and go live in a cave! Hell, one show the other day spoke of a female athlete that was videotaped in the university's dressing room by the coach. HOWEVER, the show continues, she managed to overcome that and go on to win a gold medal at the Olympics. Huh? They make it sound like what is little more than a peeking tom experience should be considering this awful, life-altering event akin to being physically attacked. Don't get me wrong. The guy's a pervert and should be fired. But get real. People have become so sensitive to any transgression that we've become a country of wimps and empotional basket-cases. The bottom line is that we live in a very voyeuristic society and I half expect that when I check into a hotel room or try clothes on in a clothier that someone might be watching me. So what? I'm not going to change my lifestyle because of something someone else might or might not be doing. (taking deep breath) I feel much better now :) Cheers, Tom Archer Author - Inside C#, Visual C++.NET Bible
Tom Archer wrote: People have become so sensitive to any transgression that we've become a country of wimps and empotional basket-cases. Waahhh! :(( You've hurt my feelings. Ok, just kidding. If some chick watched me change in a dressing I'd want to know about it. That way I could invite her in, and we could make it fun for me too! :) Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
"But everybody darlin' sometimes bites the hand that feeds." "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair." "Just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." Song: Breakdown - Album: Use Your Illusion II - Artist: Guns N' Roses -
:laugh: In all seriousness, this segues nicely into my soap box rant of the day concerning the political cause de jour. I am so sick and tired of hearing people on the news talk about how some neighbor or friend videotaped them without their knowledge and now they're emotionally destroyed. Hey, if you're that damn brittle, then do us all a favor and go live in a cave! Hell, one show the other day spoke of a female athlete that was videotaped in the university's dressing room by the coach. HOWEVER, the show continues, she managed to overcome that and go on to win a gold medal at the Olympics. Huh? They make it sound like what is little more than a peeking tom experience should be considering this awful, life-altering event akin to being physically attacked. Don't get me wrong. The guy's a pervert and should be fired. But get real. People have become so sensitive to any transgression that we've become a country of wimps and empotional basket-cases. The bottom line is that we live in a very voyeuristic society and I half expect that when I check into a hotel room or try clothes on in a clothier that someone might be watching me. So what? I'm not going to change my lifestyle because of something someone else might or might not be doing. (taking deep breath) I feel much better now :) Cheers, Tom Archer Author - Inside C#, Visual C++.NET Bible
Tom Archer wrote: that someone might be watching me I can always tell when someones watching me. By the sound of someone being sick! X| Roger Allen Sonork 100.10016 If I had a quote, it would be a very good one.
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Hypnosis is real, and stage hypnosis is, in my opinion, not necessarily faked (there are always exceptions). When you are hypnotised your mind is in the same state it is when you are dreaming. When you are asleep, parts of your mind unecessary to survival shut down and head to the pub, while your senses become hyper-sensitive. You must have woken up one time because of a sharp noise or strange feeling (i.e. something walking up your leg) - thisis because your brain thought that 'it' may be a threat to you and so 'gives you back' full control of your mind. So, in essense, hypnosis is simply causing a person's brain to slip into sleep mode, causing hyper-sensitivity (though I disagree that this is anything more than normal), without loosing the control of the person. While the person is in this state, they view themselves as themselves inside a dream, and thus are able to attempt to do things they would not when concious, and respond to imagined stimuli (ever seen a hypnotised man try to fly and physically hurt himself when he is told he falls off of something?). My guess as a non-biologist is that all this is controlled by a chemical, and just like we can trick or bodies to believe they are pregnant (or is it the other way round?), hypnotists can trick your body into releasing another chemical which causes you to dream. Of course though, the person has to be relaxed for this process to work, and that is why hypnosis can fail if a person is fatigued or stressed. Think of when you last fell into a daydream - it's the same thing - you are dreaming but still fully concious. Now think again to when you have been reading a book before you went to bed, and then faintly remembered dreaming about the same story (I say faintly, because I am certain that you can never remember real dreams, only those "mind wanderings" you have when you drift out of sleep). Well, surely if the person is still concious, you can talk to them and place images into their heads with the same effect. If the brains sees all activities as taking place inside it's own dreams (i.e. it is creating the messages it is processing itself), surely it won't kick in with the "hey you wake up quick, this may be a threat" clause. Finally, one of the reasons I beleive many people cannot remember what they did when they were hypnotised is the same reason I stated above for not remembering sleep-time dreams. ____________________ David Wulff
I agree with most of this, except (at least in my experience) you do remember what happens in a trance unless told otherwise. But, then again, I have no idea how "deep" in a trance I've been compared to others. What's worse is my main source of info I have on this is a cheesy "Complete Idiots Guide" book. :-O Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
"But everybody darlin' sometimes bites the hand that feeds." "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair." "Just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." Song: Breakdown - Album: Use Your Illusion II - Artist: Guns N' Roses -
:laugh: In all seriousness, this segues nicely into my soap box rant of the day concerning the political cause de jour. I am so sick and tired of hearing people on the news talk about how some neighbor or friend videotaped them without their knowledge and now they're emotionally destroyed. Hey, if you're that damn brittle, then do us all a favor and go live in a cave! Hell, one show the other day spoke of a female athlete that was videotaped in the university's dressing room by the coach. HOWEVER, the show continues, she managed to overcome that and go on to win a gold medal at the Olympics. Huh? They make it sound like what is little more than a peeking tom experience should be considering this awful, life-altering event akin to being physically attacked. Don't get me wrong. The guy's a pervert and should be fired. But get real. People have become so sensitive to any transgression that we've become a country of wimps and empotional basket-cases. The bottom line is that we live in a very voyeuristic society and I half expect that when I check into a hotel room or try clothes on in a clothier that someone might be watching me. So what? I'm not going to change my lifestyle because of something someone else might or might not be doing. (taking deep breath) I feel much better now :) Cheers, Tom Archer Author - Inside C#, Visual C++.NET Bible
I totally disagree. I think we all have the right to privacy, and I think it is a psychologically affecting event. Ok, getting changed mightn't seem like a problem to you - but why then are there changing room? Do you close the door when you have a shower? Do you close the toilet door when you go for a crap? And if you do do any of these, then why? I think there can be psycological damage from people secretely videoing you, and then you finding out. I think that there are things that we save for special people to see (whether it's the uptight banker who becomes silly when he's playing games with children, or if it's the woman who has 'saved herself' for marriage.) Keeping things in is part of who we are, and although we might be able to overcome them, I don't think that should necessarily be easy. Have fun, Paul Westcott.
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I totally disagree. I think we all have the right to privacy, and I think it is a psychologically affecting event. Ok, getting changed mightn't seem like a problem to you - but why then are there changing room? Do you close the door when you have a shower? Do you close the toilet door when you go for a crap? And if you do do any of these, then why? I think there can be psycological damage from people secretely videoing you, and then you finding out. I think that there are things that we save for special people to see (whether it's the uptight banker who becomes silly when he's playing games with children, or if it's the woman who has 'saved herself' for marriage.) Keeping things in is part of who we are, and although we might be able to overcome them, I don't think that should necessarily be easy. Have fun, Paul Westcott.
Make no mistake about it. I agree that people who do these invade our privacy are in the wrong. I just disagree that it should be talked about as though it's such a traumatic experience. I would be willing to bet that each and every one of us at some point has been monitored when we didn't realize it. I'm not exactly going to stay up nights worrying about it. Cheers, Tom Archer Author - Inside C#, Visual C++.NET Bible
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Hi Tom, is there anything in the web where you don't have a link too?? Good homework anyway ! Try this one ... The end
Olli cause sometimes the world is as strange as me.... :rolleyes:
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I recently watched (on TV) a hypnotist "hypnotize" a group of about 4 men out of the audience at a comedy club. He made them do all sorts of stupid things like vigorously scatch their privates and rub their butts on members of the audience. I didn't smile once because I still believe it was fake. Is this stuff at all possible? In one scene he made them "believe" they were famous pianists. My questions is..(apart from "is this at all possible???") suppose I am from a culture that has no inkling of what the term pianist means. (I'm African incidentally and I'd say most of us wouldn't know what the term "pianist" refers to). If he hypnotised me and told me I was a pianist...what would happen? And when God, who created the entire universe with all of its glories, decides to deliver a message to humanity, He WILL NOT use, as His messenger, a person on cable TV with a bad hairstyle.
They are plants. But it still can be funny. I know magic is all fake, but it is still fun to watch. Then there are the spirituals and gurus who use common everyday magic tricks to fool people into thinking they are powerful. Now that is disgusting. James Randi, who does a lot of work to expose these frauds can't step foot in some places in India because he is so outspoken about some of those 'gurus'. And don't even get me started on people like John Edward. John Edward: "I'm picking up a T. Do we have someone with a name that started with a T? No, I am getting the letter S. S anyone? What about K? Anyone whos name started with the first 13 letters of the alphabet? What about the last 13 letters? Ok, someone died recently? Who died? Anybody?" Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?
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Hypnosis is real, and stage hypnosis is, in my opinion, not necessarily faked (there are always exceptions). When you are hypnotised your mind is in the same state it is when you are dreaming. When you are asleep, parts of your mind unecessary to survival shut down and head to the pub, while your senses become hyper-sensitive. You must have woken up one time because of a sharp noise or strange feeling (i.e. something walking up your leg) - thisis because your brain thought that 'it' may be a threat to you and so 'gives you back' full control of your mind. So, in essense, hypnosis is simply causing a person's brain to slip into sleep mode, causing hyper-sensitivity (though I disagree that this is anything more than normal), without loosing the control of the person. While the person is in this state, they view themselves as themselves inside a dream, and thus are able to attempt to do things they would not when concious, and respond to imagined stimuli (ever seen a hypnotised man try to fly and physically hurt himself when he is told he falls off of something?). My guess as a non-biologist is that all this is controlled by a chemical, and just like we can trick or bodies to believe they are pregnant (or is it the other way round?), hypnotists can trick your body into releasing another chemical which causes you to dream. Of course though, the person has to be relaxed for this process to work, and that is why hypnosis can fail if a person is fatigued or stressed. Think of when you last fell into a daydream - it's the same thing - you are dreaming but still fully concious. Now think again to when you have been reading a book before you went to bed, and then faintly remembered dreaming about the same story (I say faintly, because I am certain that you can never remember real dreams, only those "mind wanderings" you have when you drift out of sleep). Well, surely if the person is still concious, you can talk to them and place images into their heads with the same effect. If the brains sees all activities as taking place inside it's own dreams (i.e. it is creating the messages it is processing itself), surely it won't kick in with the "hey you wake up quick, this may be a threat" clause. Finally, one of the reasons I beleive many people cannot remember what they did when they were hypnotised is the same reason I stated above for not remembering sleep-time dreams. ____________________ David Wulff
IMHO most stage hypnosis is fake or a lot of people just play along. But I will see if Andrew Harter or James Randi will answer that question. But I really don't think they will since it is like walking up to a magician and asking, "Hey was that junk all FAKE?" Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?
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Make no mistake about it. I agree that people who do these invade our privacy are in the wrong. I just disagree that it should be talked about as though it's such a traumatic experience. I would be willing to bet that each and every one of us at some point has been monitored when we didn't realize it. I'm not exactly going to stay up nights worrying about it. Cheers, Tom Archer Author - Inside C#, Visual C++.NET Bible
Tom Archer wrote: I just disagree that it should be talked about as though it's such a traumatic experience Why shouldn't it be a traumatic experience? That's what I'm saying. If it wasn't a traumatic experience then it wouldn't be a problem; if you see what I mean. Like have you not in relation to your book writting, at least at some point, maybe only on your first book, thought(worried) that other people were not going to like it? Or, have you ever done public speaking and felt some terror? In some ways I'm sure that being exposed on secretly filmed footage is somewhat similar - except for the fact that you didn't put yourself up for it, and thus haven't mentally prepared yourself. You are suddenly exposed to other people, and that is traumatic. "well since, my friend, you have exposed your greatest fear, I sentence you to be exposed before your peers!" not sure if I have got that quote exactly correct (from The Wall by Pink Floyd) Tom Archer wrote: I'm not exactly going to stay up nights worrying about it. I'm in totally agreement on that point! Have fun, Paul Westcott.