NT Server and Sharing Internet
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Hi all, I am trying to figure out if I can have a box with NTServer share my DSL connection to the rest of my computers. Basically, I have 5 static IP addresses but I have many more computers that need to be on the network and on the internet. So without having to buy more IP addresses, I figured I would ask here to see if the NTServer box can have the only Static IP address and have all the other computers share the internet and the network trough the NTServer box. Can someone please give me the steps on how to do this, or direct me to a wedsite that can guide me through it. Thanks in advance. P.S. I am new at all this network stuff, so any help is appreciated. *********************** Tony Fontenot Recreational Solutions tony@recsolutions.com ***********************
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Hi all, I am trying to figure out if I can have a box with NTServer share my DSL connection to the rest of my computers. Basically, I have 5 static IP addresses but I have many more computers that need to be on the network and on the internet. So without having to buy more IP addresses, I figured I would ask here to see if the NTServer box can have the only Static IP address and have all the other computers share the internet and the network trough the NTServer box. Can someone please give me the steps on how to do this, or direct me to a wedsite that can guide me through it. Thanks in advance. P.S. I am new at all this network stuff, so any help is appreciated. *********************** Tony Fontenot Recreational Solutions tony@recsolutions.com ***********************
Yes that's possible. There is a technique called NAT (Network Address Translation) which is implemented at the router level. Basically what this does is that enables you to have one IP address visible on the Internet and have all other IP addresses private, so when a packet from outside comes into network your router will figure it out for what machine is destined. (i.e. address translation). Whenever you go to access some external website, your IP will be the same, regardless of what machine you use. This has the advantage as you can add much more machines to your intranet. Regards, Venet. -------- Black holes are where God divided by zero.(Steven Wright)
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Hi all, I am trying to figure out if I can have a box with NTServer share my DSL connection to the rest of my computers. Basically, I have 5 static IP addresses but I have many more computers that need to be on the network and on the internet. So without having to buy more IP addresses, I figured I would ask here to see if the NTServer box can have the only Static IP address and have all the other computers share the internet and the network trough the NTServer box. Can someone please give me the steps on how to do this, or direct me to a wedsite that can guide me through it. Thanks in advance. P.S. I am new at all this network stuff, so any help is appreciated. *********************** Tony Fontenot Recreational Solutions tony@recsolutions.com ***********************
Have you tried using MSProxy server on the server and MSProxy client on the workstations? Best regards, Alexandru Savescu
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Hi all, I am trying to figure out if I can have a box with NTServer share my DSL connection to the rest of my computers. Basically, I have 5 static IP addresses but I have many more computers that need to be on the network and on the internet. So without having to buy more IP addresses, I figured I would ask here to see if the NTServer box can have the only Static IP address and have all the other computers share the internet and the network trough the NTServer box. Can someone please give me the steps on how to do this, or direct me to a wedsite that can guide me through it. Thanks in advance. P.S. I am new at all this network stuff, so any help is appreciated. *********************** Tony Fontenot Recreational Solutions tony@recsolutions.com ***********************
use a broadband/dsl internet router, i have one at home to connect my to boxes to the internet.
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Have you tried using MSProxy server on the server and MSProxy client on the workstations? Best regards, Alexandru Savescu
****Alexpro wrote: Have you tried using MSProxy server on the server and MSProxy client on the workstations? But, does that have limitations, in sense that each workstation will need to have its own public IP address, therefore need to buy more IP addresses? Regards, Venet. -------- Black holes are where God divided by zero.(Steven Wright)
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****Alexpro wrote: Have you tried using MSProxy server on the server and MSProxy client on the workstations? But, does that have limitations, in sense that each workstation will need to have its own public IP address, therefore need to buy more IP addresses? Regards, Venet. -------- Black holes are where God divided by zero.(Steven Wright)
Venet wrote: But, does that have limitations, in sense that each workstation will need to have its own public IP address, therefore need to buy more IP addresses? No, each workstation will have a private address (192.168.0.x) and the server will have the only public address. Or at least this is how we used it then. Best regards, Alexandru Savescu
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Venet wrote: But, does that have limitations, in sense that each workstation will need to have its own public IP address, therefore need to buy more IP addresses? No, each workstation will have a private address (192.168.0.x) and the server will have the only public address. Or at least this is how we used it then. Best regards, Alexandru Savescu
I always thought Address Translation from Public IP to a private one (10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x) is done at the router level, not at the application level. Do you have a router as well on your network that does address translation? Regards, Venet. -------- Black holes are where God divided by zero.(Steven Wright)
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Hi all, I am trying to figure out if I can have a box with NTServer share my DSL connection to the rest of my computers. Basically, I have 5 static IP addresses but I have many more computers that need to be on the network and on the internet. So without having to buy more IP addresses, I figured I would ask here to see if the NTServer box can have the only Static IP address and have all the other computers share the internet and the network trough the NTServer box. Can someone please give me the steps on how to do this, or direct me to a wedsite that can guide me through it. Thanks in advance. P.S. I am new at all this network stuff, so any help is appreciated. *********************** Tony Fontenot Recreational Solutions tony@recsolutions.com ***********************
Forget the NT box. Sorry, but Windows and IP is not something you can get anything reasonably good out of without a larger amount of cash. Get an old machine (and here we're talking 486 level - something you wouldn't dream installing anything MS on nowadays) and install some *nix/*BSD to let it act as both a firewall and NATing gateway. I actually have seen an NT5 (aka "Windows 2000" for the marketing droids) Server act as a HTTP and FTP proxy. Once. However, no one apparently had a clue of how it actually worked, and just the idea of blocking or opening stateful connections for other ports met with a blank stare. It's your choice, but I'd personally never even try to use a Windows machine (no matter what version) as a 'net gateway. You don't try to get a DC-3 to get fly faster than the speed of sound - it's just not healthy.
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Forget the NT box. Sorry, but Windows and IP is not something you can get anything reasonably good out of without a larger amount of cash. Get an old machine (and here we're talking 486 level - something you wouldn't dream installing anything MS on nowadays) and install some *nix/*BSD to let it act as both a firewall and NATing gateway. I actually have seen an NT5 (aka "Windows 2000" for the marketing droids) Server act as a HTTP and FTP proxy. Once. However, no one apparently had a clue of how it actually worked, and just the idea of blocking or opening stateful connections for other ports met with a blank stare. It's your choice, but I'd personally never even try to use a Windows machine (no matter what version) as a 'net gateway. You don't try to get a DC-3 to get fly faster than the speed of sound - it's just not healthy.
Mike Nordell wrote: Forget the NT box. Yep. Windows doesn't have even have a proper TCP/IP stack implementation (raw sockets for example). I have SuSE linux that I use as a firewall and it's not too hard to set it up. So the best is to go with linux. Regards, Venet. -------- Black holes are where God divided by zero.(Steven Wright)
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I always thought Address Translation from Public IP to a private one (10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x) is done at the router level, not at the application level. Do you have a router as well on your network that does address translation? Regards, Venet. -------- Black holes are where God divided by zero.(Steven Wright)
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markkuk wrote: A computer used for internet connection sharing acts as a router (and does NAT). Yeah, but with NAT-ing TCP (and IP AFAIK) headers need to be changed. I know this can be done in linux, but considering Windows doesn't have full support for raw sockets, I thought it cannot be done. Regards, Venet. -------- Black holes are where God divided by zero.(Steven Wright)