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  • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

    Rob Manderson wrote: And I now have a second name on my idiot list... welcome Christian... I could say at this point that you're the first on mine...but I'm not that small minded so I won't. ;P Christian may be opinionated (as many of us are here) but he's most certainly no idiot. Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd

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    awwwwwww go on - let me be the first!!!! Rob Manderson http://www.mindprobes.net

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    • M Martin Marvinski

      I've been a Christian for about a month now and I must say it is tough. The worst thing is combating biology, and I must say I understand why most Christians get married fairly young. I do like my nightly Bible study, and I am trying to learn as much as possible. Hopefully this will give me the strength to avoid temptation and sin.

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      Congratulations... Just a few comments that I hope will help you. Pray without ceasing, the bible says. Without the true relationship with God it's all in vain anyway. You're merely practicing an empty religion just for it's own sake. You will not last long. The most important thing in the universe is God. Get to know him through the bible study, but don't be afraid to ask him for everything you need in prayer. His greatest desire is for you to make it through all these struggles, he will not abandon you to fend for yourself. Secondly, remember that you are a new creation in Christ, created for good works. You have put off the old and have put on the new. Basically this means that the sinful man you once were has been crucified with Christ, buried with him in baptism and you have been ressurected with him into a new life. This does not mean you will not struggle, but it does mean that you can win. God has promised that you will not be given more than you can handle, with every temptation there will ALWAYS be a way of escape. Remember that as a disciple of Jesus you are called to take up that same cross of self-denial daily and follow him. Whenever the temptations come it will be tough, and it may never get easier, but you will grow. Just remember, pray without ceasing. Thirdly, there is not a man or woman alive who does not sin. 1 John teaches us that we need to walk in the light of God's grace. You will sin, you will mess up occasionally, but it will become less and less if you are growing as a christian. Jesus' death on the cross is sufficient to cover any sin you may end up doing. As long as your heart remains devoted to God, you will always dust yourself off and move on. No turning back, though. ;) Fourthly, you won't make it on your own. You need to walk through this world in fellowship of believers as the disciples did in the New Testament. Lions usually take out the sick, the weak, and the strays from a herd. God created you in this new life of yours to be part of a body, figuratively and otherwise. If you need anything else let me know. Take care. "Tell me about the god you don't believe in, and I probably wouldn't believe in him either." - Unknown

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      • N Nemanja Trifunovic

        I've been a Christian for all my life and got married at 29. The problem with your approach is that you associate "sin" with sex before marriage. But, AFAIK, this is not such a "terrible sin" - if you want to be a good Christian, just be good and kind to other people, don't lie and be patient with your enemies. If you bang some chick down the road - well you don't want to be a saint, do you? I vote pro drink :beer:

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        You must have a different version of the Bible than I do. :omg: Or perhaps someone accidentally tore 1 Corinthians out of yours. Better double-check your definition of Christianity. "Tell me about the god you don't believe in, and I probably wouldn't believe in him either." - Unknown

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        • C Christopher Duncan

          I spent a lot of my younger years as a musician doing the sex, drugs and rock & roll thing. Needless to say, I woke up with a lot of women whose names I couldn't even remember. Somewhere down the line, as I got older and my values changed, I reached a point where sex without an emotional connection was an empty experience for me. Now don't get me wrong, I still love sex with beautiful women, but these days if it's not someone I want to wake up and hug the next morning, I'd truly just rather sleep alone. So, the biological urges are definately still there, but because of what I believe in and am holding out for (i.e., good old fashioned, idealistic, romantic love), it's not a hardship. I'm sure you that you will draw similar strength from the power of your own beliefs. Discipline is just a habit. Once established, it's easily maintianed. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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          Christopher Duncan wrote: Discipline is just a habit. Once established, it's easily maintianed. Amen.:-D "Tell me about the god you don't believe in, and I probably wouldn't believe in him either." - Unknown

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          • C ColinDavies

            Where exactly in the Bible are you getting the notion that you can not have premarital sex with a female ? Regardz Colin J Davies

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            Colin Davies wrote: Where exactly in the Bible are you getting the notion that you can not have premarital sex with a female ? Here actually. and here. And here. And here. To name a few. It all depends on your definition of the greek word porneia. In all cases it refers more or less to having sex or sexual acts with someone(or something) other than your spouse. X| One should not feel guilty for struggling with lust. But to actually go out and act on the urge is another matter entirely. "Tell me about the god you don't believe in, and I probably wouldn't believe in him either." - Unknown

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            • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

              Well done! I walked the same road just over a year ago, and I can honestly say I'm a better person for it. :) Whatever you do though, don't fall into the trap of blindly trying to believe what others tell you the Bible means...read it for yourself, and follow your heart. If something doesn't seem to fit, question it. ;) Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd

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              Andy Metcalfe wrote: Whatever you do though, don't fall into the trap of blindly trying to believe what others tell you the Bible means...read it for yourself, and follow your heart. If something doesn't seem to fit, question it. Amen to that. Though in some cases it's safe to take a person's word for it, never should you believe anyone who demands you take there word for it, or else! God doesn't even treat us so poorly. We are called to investigate, to think, to seach, to examine, to meditate, to discern, and yes, to question. Christianity is possibly the only religion that admits in advance there there will be a lot of phony versions of itself out there. Basically the only yard stick we have to go by is God's word. Forget "church traditions", "personal spiritual insight", or "the teachings of men". If they do not agree with the overall teachings of the scriptures, chuck em. Beware of pride though. Many a young bible student walked away from perfectly correct biblical instruction simply becuase they were too proud to admit that they were wrong. "Tell me about the god you don't believe in, and I probably wouldn't believe in him either." - Unknown

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                Colin Davies wrote: Where exactly in the Bible are you getting the notion that you can not have premarital sex with a female ? Here actually. and here. And here. And here. To name a few. It all depends on your definition of the greek word porneia. In all cases it refers more or less to having sex or sexual acts with someone(or something) other than your spouse. X| One should not feel guilty for struggling with lust. But to actually go out and act on the urge is another matter entirely. "Tell me about the god you don't believe in, and I probably wouldn't believe in him either." - Unknown

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                Another reading of it shows its an opinion. When considering John 1:17 - NKJV For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. Would you then listen to Corinthians ? As far as I'm concerned anywhere that breaks with the 6 major Gospels should have a big red line drawn through it as a satanic infiltration. Regardz Colin J Davies

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                  Another reading of it shows its an opinion. When considering John 1:17 - NKJV For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. Would you then listen to Corinthians ? As far as I'm concerned anywhere that breaks with the 6 major Gospels should have a big red line drawn through it as a satanic infiltration. Regardz Colin J Davies

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                  Using non-existant satanic infiltration of scripture as an excuse to sin is satanic infiltration of the mind. The God who created the universe is powerful enough to protect his word from corruption. "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. " - 2 Timothy 3:16-17 "Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit." - 2 Peter 1:20-12 "So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction. Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position. But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen." - 2 Peter 3:!4-18 This is not to mention that within the "major gospels" as you call them, Jesus himself commanded us to flee fornication, repent and keep ourselves pure. Take care. "Tell me about the god you don't believe in, and I probably wouldn't believe in him either." - Unknown

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                    Using non-existant satanic infiltration of scripture as an excuse to sin is satanic infiltration of the mind. The God who created the universe is powerful enough to protect his word from corruption. "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. " - 2 Timothy 3:16-17 "Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit." - 2 Peter 1:20-12 "So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction. Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position. But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen." - 2 Peter 3:!4-18 This is not to mention that within the "major gospels" as you call them, Jesus himself commanded us to flee fornication, repent and keep ourselves pure. Take care. "Tell me about the god you don't believe in, and I probably wouldn't believe in him either." - Unknown

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                    kevnar wrote: Using non-existant satanic infiltration of scripture as an excuse to sin is satanic infiltration of the mind. The God who created the universe is powerful enough to protect his word from corruption. you have me confused there :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

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                      kevnar wrote: Using non-existant satanic infiltration of scripture as an excuse to sin is satanic infiltration of the mind. The God who created the universe is powerful enough to protect his word from corruption. you have me confused there :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

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                      Well perhaps I misunderstood you. Sorry, man. :-D "Tell me about the god you don't believe in, and I probably wouldn't believe in him either." - Unknown

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