News Corp stock falling because of Ron Paul decision?
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Seems too good to be true, but is a rather fantastic reflection of American values, I think... http://www.nolanchart.com/article844.html[^] A better chart is the Google chart: http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NWS&hl=en[^] Personally, I think companies are more than welcome to make any advertising and programming decisions they want to. I have no problem with that and wouldn't dream of attempting to control those decisions. That said, that sort of freedom comes with a price, being that if you make a decision that is unpopular, you pay for it. I think that's what's happening with News Corp now over their decision to exclude Ron Paul from the Jan. 6 debates. There's absolutely no reason to exclude him, except that they don't like his message (e.g., they don't like the idea of small government, I suspect). Like I said, that's their prerogative. But they'll pay for it.
It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein
It is long past time that News Corp reaped the whirlwind for their utterly dispicable manipulation of the democratic process both in the UK and the US. A happy new year indeed to all the US patriots prepared to stand up to them, I wish them well and hope to see Ron Paul in the White House next year for all our sakes.
Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.
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It is long past time that News Corp reaped the whirlwind for their utterly dispicable manipulation of the democratic process both in the UK and the US. A happy new year indeed to all the US patriots prepared to stand up to them, I wish them well and hope to see Ron Paul in the White House next year for all our sakes.
Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.
Matthew Faithfull wrote:
utterly dispicable manipulation of the democratic process both in the UK and the US.
Agreed. "Fair and balanced"... "We report, you decide." Both utter bullshit. When you refuse to let a voice speak with whom you disagree, neither of those slogans is in the least bit accurate.
It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein
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Matthew Faithfull wrote:
utterly dispicable manipulation of the democratic process both in the UK and the US.
Agreed. "Fair and balanced"... "We report, you decide." Both utter bullshit. When you refuse to let a voice speak with whom you disagree, neither of those slogans is in the least bit accurate.
It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein
News corporations need idiots like GWB in office. Anything that generates news...
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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Seems too good to be true, but is a rather fantastic reflection of American values, I think... http://www.nolanchart.com/article844.html[^] A better chart is the Google chart: http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NWS&hl=en[^] Personally, I think companies are more than welcome to make any advertising and programming decisions they want to. I have no problem with that and wouldn't dream of attempting to control those decisions. That said, that sort of freedom comes with a price, being that if you make a decision that is unpopular, you pay for it. I think that's what's happening with News Corp now over their decision to exclude Ron Paul from the Jan. 6 debates. There's absolutely no reason to exclude him, except that they don't like his message (e.g., they don't like the idea of small government, I suspect). Like I said, that's their prerogative. But they'll pay for it.
It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein
Sounds like a great time to invest a few bucks in Fox stock... Thanks.
The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hypocrisy is no morality at all. Freedom is not something you express with your genitals, it is something you express with your mind.
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Seems too good to be true, but is a rather fantastic reflection of American values, I think... http://www.nolanchart.com/article844.html[^] A better chart is the Google chart: http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NWS&hl=en[^] Personally, I think companies are more than welcome to make any advertising and programming decisions they want to. I have no problem with that and wouldn't dream of attempting to control those decisions. That said, that sort of freedom comes with a price, being that if you make a decision that is unpopular, you pay for it. I think that's what's happening with News Corp now over their decision to exclude Ron Paul from the Jan. 6 debates. There's absolutely no reason to exclude him, except that they don't like his message (e.g., they don't like the idea of small government, I suspect). Like I said, that's their prerogative. But they'll pay for it.
It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein
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Sounds like a great time to invest a few bucks in Fox stock... Thanks.
The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hypocrisy is no morality at all. Freedom is not something you express with your genitals, it is something you express with your mind.
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Sounds like a great time to invest a few bucks in Fox stock... Thanks.
The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hypocrisy is no morality at all. Freedom is not something you express with your genitals, it is something you express with your mind.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Sounds like a great time to invest a few bucks in Fox stock... Thanks.
Actually, I was just saying the same thing to a coworker.. from a strictly financial point of view it's a good time to invest.
It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein
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Well, the decision pretty much killed any reason i might have had to watch the thing. :shrug:
Shog9 wrote:
Well, the decision pretty much killed any reason i might have had to watch the thing. :shrug:
Same here...
It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein
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:snicker: Stan a fan of dull debates? I gotta admit, i didn't see that one coming... :suss:
Debates? Please, these staged forums presented on television are not debates. I never watch them.
The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hypocrisy is no morality at all. Freedom is not something you express with your genitals, it is something you express with your mind.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Sounds like a great time to invest a few bucks in Fox stock... Thanks.
Actually, I was just saying the same thing to a coworker.. from a strictly financial point of view it's a good time to invest.
It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein
Patrick Sears wrote:
from a strictly financial point of view it's a good time to invest.
What else matters?
The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hypocrisy is no morality at all. Freedom is not something you express with your genitals, it is something you express with your mind.
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Patrick Sears wrote:
from a strictly financial point of view it's a good time to invest.
What else matters?
The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hypocrisy is no morality at all. Freedom is not something you express with your genitals, it is something you express with your mind.
Stan Shannon wrote:
What else matters?
Exactly why I say capitalism is a piss poor way to solve long term problems.
It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein
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Seems too good to be true, but is a rather fantastic reflection of American values, I think... http://www.nolanchart.com/article844.html[^] A better chart is the Google chart: http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NWS&hl=en[^] Personally, I think companies are more than welcome to make any advertising and programming decisions they want to. I have no problem with that and wouldn't dream of attempting to control those decisions. That said, that sort of freedom comes with a price, being that if you make a decision that is unpopular, you pay for it. I think that's what's happening with News Corp now over their decision to exclude Ron Paul from the Jan. 6 debates. There's absolutely no reason to exclude him, except that they don't like his message (e.g., they don't like the idea of small government, I suspect). Like I said, that's their prerogative. But they'll pay for it.
It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein
Is he hte only candidate being excluded, or are all the wannabes with single digit poll numbers being told to take a hike as well? Only inviting the candidates with a realistic chance of winning is SOP to keep total numbers reasonable and to avoid wasting everyones time.
Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull
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Debates? Please, these staged forums presented on television are not debates. I never watch them.
The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hypocrisy is no morality at all. Freedom is not something you express with your genitals, it is something you express with your mind.
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Sounds like a great time to invest a few bucks in Fox stock... Thanks.
The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hypocrisy is no morality at all. Freedom is not something you express with your genitals, it is something you express with your mind.
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Is he hte only candidate being excluded, or are all the wannabes with single digit poll numbers being told to take a hike as well? Only inviting the candidates with a realistic chance of winning is SOP to keep total numbers reasonable and to avoid wasting everyones time.
Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull
I was kinda thinking the same thing. But I wasn't sure where he is in the polls, I haven't been watching too closely, and Paul is WAY down on my list anyway. Yeah, Paul's Poll Numbers[^] are single digit all around. Man, I wish we had a candidate worth voting for...
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Is he hte only candidate being excluded, or are all the wannabes with single digit poll numbers being told to take a hike as well? Only inviting the candidates with a realistic chance of winning is SOP to keep total numbers reasonable and to avoid wasting everyones time.
Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull
dan neely wrote:
Only inviting the candidates with a realistic chance of winning is SOP to keep total numbers reasonable and to avoid wasting everyones time.
Did you ever consider how much time we'd save if we just elected a dictator-for-life? I mean, really, this whole "election" thing is horribly inefficient... :rolleyes:
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dan neely wrote:
Only inviting the candidates with a realistic chance of winning is SOP to keep total numbers reasonable and to avoid wasting everyones time.
Did you ever consider how much time we'd save if we just elected a dictator-for-life? I mean, really, this whole "election" thing is horribly inefficient... :rolleyes:
Did you ever consider how long and tedious it would be to give every single individual that wanted to be president their say in the debates? :rolleyes: Poles are a good indicator.
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Did you ever consider how long and tedious it would be to give every single individual that wanted to be president their say in the debates? :rolleyes: Poles are a good indicator.
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BoneSoft wrote:
Did you ever consider how long and tedious it would be to give every single individual that wanted to be president their say in the debates
Not for a minute. Why should i consider something like that? I'm interested in seeing someone elected who will represent my interests, not entertain me. I have this message board for that purpose. Now, if i were running some sort of entertainment network, it would be a concern for me... but then i'd have enough experience running "reality" TV shows to cut together a half-hour's worth of fights and snide remarks. And if that didn't work, i could always bring in some B-list celebrity to liven things up.
BoneSoft wrote:
Poles are a good indicator.
Of what, exactly? And before you answer, ask yourself if that "what" has any relevance whatsoever to the answer to this question: what sort of questions would you really like to see debated?
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BoneSoft wrote:
Did you ever consider how long and tedious it would be to give every single individual that wanted to be president their say in the debates
Not for a minute. Why should i consider something like that? I'm interested in seeing someone elected who will represent my interests, not entertain me. I have this message board for that purpose. Now, if i were running some sort of entertainment network, it would be a concern for me... but then i'd have enough experience running "reality" TV shows to cut together a half-hour's worth of fights and snide remarks. And if that didn't work, i could always bring in some B-list celebrity to liven things up.
BoneSoft wrote:
Poles are a good indicator.
Of what, exactly? And before you answer, ask yourself if that "what" has any relevance whatsoever to the answer to this question: what sort of questions would you really like to see debated?
Shog9 wrote:
I'm interested in seeing someone elected who will represent my interests, not entertain me.
Interesting. I'm interested in seeing someone elected who will represent the country's interests. Poles are a fairly good indicator of party response to candidates. Why include all the people that have very low pole responses?
Shog9 wrote:
Now, if i were running some sort of entertainment network, it would be a concern for me... but then i'd have enough experience running "reality" TV shows to cut together a half-hour's worth of fights and snide remarks.
Uh huh... And you'd exclude all the non-snide remarks. And so if Ron Paul was on the show and he wasn't snide enough, somebody would be complaining about your decision on a message board somewhere.
Shog9 wrote:
what sort of questions would you really like to see debated?
How is that relevant? And how would the list of questions change by including Ron Paul in the debate?
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Shog9 wrote:
I'm interested in seeing someone elected who will represent my interests, not entertain me.
Interesting. I'm interested in seeing someone elected who will represent the country's interests. Poles are a fairly good indicator of party response to candidates. Why include all the people that have very low pole responses?
Shog9 wrote:
Now, if i were running some sort of entertainment network, it would be a concern for me... but then i'd have enough experience running "reality" TV shows to cut together a half-hour's worth of fights and snide remarks.
Uh huh... And you'd exclude all the non-snide remarks. And so if Ron Paul was on the show and he wasn't snide enough, somebody would be complaining about your decision on a message board somewhere.
Shog9 wrote:
what sort of questions would you really like to see debated?
How is that relevant? And how would the list of questions change by including Ron Paul in the debate?
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BoneSoft wrote:
Interesting. I'm interested in seeing someone elected who will represent the country's interests.
How noble of you! Presumably then, you know what your country's interests are by reading polls, and vote accordingly, even when the poll-derived wishes of your country conflict with your own? Somehow, i have this idea that i should vote for the candidate who best represents me, and the process itself will take care of subverting my wishes where they fail to align with those of The Nation.
BoneSoft wrote:
Uh huh...
You kinda missed the sarcasm. I was outlining a situation that exists today. No worries, it wasn't important.
BoneSoft wrote:
How is that relevant? And how would the list of questions change by including Ron Paul in the debate?
How is debate relevant? Well, it probably isn't - i mean, most of these things end up as either pissing contests ("I'm more for/against X than my opponent, who is only very strongly for/against it") or opportunities for candidates to hone their favorite sound bites in preparation for the next stump speech. It's part of a grand iterative process designed to choose a candidate with just the right blend of mock-devotion to The Party's Platform and empty respect for The Opposing View. Would the addition of Ron Paul or any of the other fringe candidates change this? Maybe not... and now, we won't find out, which is kinda my whole gripe with it. We'll get exactly the debate The Party wants - no debate at all. Enjoy...