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    Patrick Etc
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    Seems too good to be true, but is a rather fantastic reflection of American values, I think... http://www.nolanchart.com/article844.html[^] A better chart is the Google chart: http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NWS&hl=en[^] Personally, I think companies are more than welcome to make any advertising and programming decisions they want to. I have no problem with that and wouldn't dream of attempting to control those decisions. That said, that sort of freedom comes with a price, being that if you make a decision that is unpopular, you pay for it. I think that's what's happening with News Corp now over their decision to exclude Ron Paul from the Jan. 6 debates. There's absolutely no reason to exclude him, except that they don't like his message (e.g., they don't like the idea of small government, I suspect). Like I said, that's their prerogative. But they'll pay for it.


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      Seems too good to be true, but is a rather fantastic reflection of American values, I think... http://www.nolanchart.com/article844.html[^] A better chart is the Google chart: http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NWS&hl=en[^] Personally, I think companies are more than welcome to make any advertising and programming decisions they want to. I have no problem with that and wouldn't dream of attempting to control those decisions. That said, that sort of freedom comes with a price, being that if you make a decision that is unpopular, you pay for it. I think that's what's happening with News Corp now over their decision to exclude Ron Paul from the Jan. 6 debates. There's absolutely no reason to exclude him, except that they don't like his message (e.g., they don't like the idea of small government, I suspect). Like I said, that's their prerogative. But they'll pay for it.


      It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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      Matthew Faithfull
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      It is long past time that News Corp reaped the whirlwind for their utterly dispicable manipulation of the democratic process both in the UK and the US. A happy new year indeed to all the US patriots prepared to stand up to them, I wish them well and hope to see Ron Paul in the White House next year for all our sakes.

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        It is long past time that News Corp reaped the whirlwind for their utterly dispicable manipulation of the democratic process both in the UK and the US. A happy new year indeed to all the US patriots prepared to stand up to them, I wish them well and hope to see Ron Paul in the White House next year for all our sakes.

        Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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        Matthew Faithfull wrote:

        utterly dispicable manipulation of the democratic process both in the UK and the US.

        Agreed. "Fair and balanced"... "We report, you decide." Both utter bullshit. When you refuse to let a voice speak with whom you disagree, neither of those slogans is in the least bit accurate.


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          Matthew Faithfull wrote:

          utterly dispicable manipulation of the democratic process both in the UK and the US.

          Agreed. "Fair and balanced"... "We report, you decide." Both utter bullshit. When you refuse to let a voice speak with whom you disagree, neither of those slogans is in the least bit accurate.


          It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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          News corporations need idiots like GWB in office. Anything that generates news...

          -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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            Seems too good to be true, but is a rather fantastic reflection of American values, I think... http://www.nolanchart.com/article844.html[^] A better chart is the Google chart: http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NWS&hl=en[^] Personally, I think companies are more than welcome to make any advertising and programming decisions they want to. I have no problem with that and wouldn't dream of attempting to control those decisions. That said, that sort of freedom comes with a price, being that if you make a decision that is unpopular, you pay for it. I think that's what's happening with News Corp now over their decision to exclude Ron Paul from the Jan. 6 debates. There's absolutely no reason to exclude him, except that they don't like his message (e.g., they don't like the idea of small government, I suspect). Like I said, that's their prerogative. But they'll pay for it.


            It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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            Stan Shannon
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            Sounds like a great time to invest a few bucks in Fox stock... Thanks.

            The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hypocrisy is no morality at all. Freedom is not something you express with your genitals, it is something you express with your mind.

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              Seems too good to be true, but is a rather fantastic reflection of American values, I think... http://www.nolanchart.com/article844.html[^] A better chart is the Google chart: http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NWS&hl=en[^] Personally, I think companies are more than welcome to make any advertising and programming decisions they want to. I have no problem with that and wouldn't dream of attempting to control those decisions. That said, that sort of freedom comes with a price, being that if you make a decision that is unpopular, you pay for it. I think that's what's happening with News Corp now over their decision to exclude Ron Paul from the Jan. 6 debates. There's absolutely no reason to exclude him, except that they don't like his message (e.g., they don't like the idea of small government, I suspect). Like I said, that's their prerogative. But they'll pay for it.


              It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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              Well, the decision pretty much killed any reason i might have had to watch the thing. :shrug:

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                Sounds like a great time to invest a few bucks in Fox stock... Thanks.

                The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hypocrisy is no morality at all. Freedom is not something you express with your genitals, it is something you express with your mind.

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                :snicker: Stan a fan of dull debates? I gotta admit, i didn't see that one coming... :suss:

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                  Sounds like a great time to invest a few bucks in Fox stock... Thanks.

                  The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hypocrisy is no morality at all. Freedom is not something you express with your genitals, it is something you express with your mind.

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                  Patrick Etc
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                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                  Sounds like a great time to invest a few bucks in Fox stock... Thanks.

                  Actually, I was just saying the same thing to a coworker.. from a strictly financial point of view it's a good time to invest.


                  It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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                    Well, the decision pretty much killed any reason i might have had to watch the thing. :shrug:

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                    Patrick Etc
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                    Shog9 wrote:

                    Well, the decision pretty much killed any reason i might have had to watch the thing. :shrug:

                    Same here...


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                      :snicker: Stan a fan of dull debates? I gotta admit, i didn't see that one coming... :suss:

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                      Stan Shannon
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                      Debates? Please, these staged forums presented on television are not debates. I never watch them.

                      The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hypocrisy is no morality at all. Freedom is not something you express with your genitals, it is something you express with your mind.

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                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                        Sounds like a great time to invest a few bucks in Fox stock... Thanks.

                        Actually, I was just saying the same thing to a coworker.. from a strictly financial point of view it's a good time to invest.


                        It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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                        Stan Shannon
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                        Patrick Sears wrote:

                        from a strictly financial point of view it's a good time to invest.

                        What else matters?

                        The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hypocrisy is no morality at all. Freedom is not something you express with your genitals, it is something you express with your mind.

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                          Patrick Sears wrote:

                          from a strictly financial point of view it's a good time to invest.

                          What else matters?

                          The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hypocrisy is no morality at all. Freedom is not something you express with your genitals, it is something you express with your mind.

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                          Patrick Etc
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                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                          What else matters?

                          Exactly why I say capitalism is a piss poor way to solve long term problems.


                          It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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                            Seems too good to be true, but is a rather fantastic reflection of American values, I think... http://www.nolanchart.com/article844.html[^] A better chart is the Google chart: http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NWS&hl=en[^] Personally, I think companies are more than welcome to make any advertising and programming decisions they want to. I have no problem with that and wouldn't dream of attempting to control those decisions. That said, that sort of freedom comes with a price, being that if you make a decision that is unpopular, you pay for it. I think that's what's happening with News Corp now over their decision to exclude Ron Paul from the Jan. 6 debates. There's absolutely no reason to exclude him, except that they don't like his message (e.g., they don't like the idea of small government, I suspect). Like I said, that's their prerogative. But they'll pay for it.


                            It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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                            Is he hte only candidate being excluded, or are all the wannabes with single digit poll numbers being told to take a hike as well? Only inviting the candidates with a realistic chance of winning is SOP to keep total numbers reasonable and to avoid wasting everyones time.

                            Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull

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                              Debates? Please, these staged forums presented on television are not debates. I never watch them.

                              The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hypocrisy is no morality at all. Freedom is not something you express with your genitals, it is something you express with your mind.

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                              Stan Shannon wrote:

                              Please, these staged forums presented on television are not debates.

                              Heh, point. :)

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                                Sounds like a great time to invest a few bucks in Fox stock... Thanks.

                                The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hypocrisy is no morality at all. Freedom is not something you express with your genitals, it is something you express with your mind.

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                                My thoughts exactly.


                                Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.

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                                  Is he hte only candidate being excluded, or are all the wannabes with single digit poll numbers being told to take a hike as well? Only inviting the candidates with a realistic chance of winning is SOP to keep total numbers reasonable and to avoid wasting everyones time.

                                  Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull

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                                  I was kinda thinking the same thing. But I wasn't sure where he is in the polls, I haven't been watching too closely, and Paul is WAY down on my list anyway. Yeah, Paul's Poll Numbers[^] are single digit all around. Man, I wish we had a candidate worth voting for...


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                                    Is he hte only candidate being excluded, or are all the wannabes with single digit poll numbers being told to take a hike as well? Only inviting the candidates with a realistic chance of winning is SOP to keep total numbers reasonable and to avoid wasting everyones time.

                                    Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull

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                                    dan neely wrote:

                                    Only inviting the candidates with a realistic chance of winning is SOP to keep total numbers reasonable and to avoid wasting everyones time.

                                    Did you ever consider how much time we'd save if we just elected a dictator-for-life? I mean, really, this whole "election" thing is horribly inefficient... :rolleyes:

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                                      dan neely wrote:

                                      Only inviting the candidates with a realistic chance of winning is SOP to keep total numbers reasonable and to avoid wasting everyones time.

                                      Did you ever consider how much time we'd save if we just elected a dictator-for-life? I mean, really, this whole "election" thing is horribly inefficient... :rolleyes:

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                                      Did you ever consider how long and tedious it would be to give every single individual that wanted to be president their say in the debates? :rolleyes: Poles are a good indicator.


                                      Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.

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                                        Did you ever consider how long and tedious it would be to give every single individual that wanted to be president their say in the debates? :rolleyes: Poles are a good indicator.


                                        Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.

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                                        BoneSoft wrote:

                                        Did you ever consider how long and tedious it would be to give every single individual that wanted to be president their say in the debates

                                        Not for a minute. Why should i consider something like that? I'm interested in seeing someone elected who will represent my interests, not entertain me. I have this message board for that purpose. Now, if i were running some sort of entertainment network, it would be a concern for me... but then i'd have enough experience running "reality" TV shows to cut together a half-hour's worth of fights and snide remarks. And if that didn't work, i could always bring in some B-list celebrity to liven things up.

                                        BoneSoft wrote:

                                        Poles are a good indicator.

                                        Of what, exactly? And before you answer, ask yourself if that "what" has any relevance whatsoever to the answer to this question: what sort of questions would you really like to see debated?

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                                          BoneSoft wrote:

                                          Did you ever consider how long and tedious it would be to give every single individual that wanted to be president their say in the debates

                                          Not for a minute. Why should i consider something like that? I'm interested in seeing someone elected who will represent my interests, not entertain me. I have this message board for that purpose. Now, if i were running some sort of entertainment network, it would be a concern for me... but then i'd have enough experience running "reality" TV shows to cut together a half-hour's worth of fights and snide remarks. And if that didn't work, i could always bring in some B-list celebrity to liven things up.

                                          BoneSoft wrote:

                                          Poles are a good indicator.

                                          Of what, exactly? And before you answer, ask yourself if that "what" has any relevance whatsoever to the answer to this question: what sort of questions would you really like to see debated?

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                                          Shog9 wrote:

                                          I'm interested in seeing someone elected who will represent my interests, not entertain me.

                                          Interesting. I'm interested in seeing someone elected who will represent the country's interests. Poles are a fairly good indicator of party response to candidates. Why include all the people that have very low pole responses?

                                          Shog9 wrote:

                                          Now, if i were running some sort of entertainment network, it would be a concern for me... but then i'd have enough experience running "reality" TV shows to cut together a half-hour's worth of fights and snide remarks.

                                          Uh huh... And you'd exclude all the non-snide remarks. And so if Ron Paul was on the show and he wasn't snide enough, somebody would be complaining about your decision on a message board somewhere.

                                          Shog9 wrote:

                                          what sort of questions would you really like to see debated?

                                          How is that relevant? And how would the list of questions change by including Ron Paul in the debate?


                                          Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.

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