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  • J Joe Q

    And I took it back yesterday. I had been holding off buying a computer with Vista on it in the hopes the Vista problems would be fixed. Just after Christmas I bought my daughter a new computer to replace her old XP computer (I bought her old one just after XP came out about 5 years ago(?)). It runs well but only had a 60 Gig hard drive, which was full, it only had USB 1.1, and it was old so I thought I would upgrade. I tried for a week to get the programs she uses to work and to get up to speed. The old computer ran faster and did everything she needed so I took the new computer with Vista back, bought a USB 2.0 card and a 120 Gig hard drive as a 2nd drive and everything works great. I now understand why people are frustrated with Vista and it has made me think about becomeing a Mac user.

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    Joe Q wrote:

    made me think about becomeing a Mac user

    Why? I've heard that Leopard isn't a whole lot better according to some Mac fanboys I know.

    "I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon

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      Joe Q wrote:

      made me think about becomeing a Mac user

      Why? I've heard that Leopard isn't a whole lot better according to some Mac fanboys I know.

      "I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon

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      From people trying to be objective it seems to have most of the same issues that are plauging MS with vista. The old version was good enough that there's not a compelling reason to upgrade and learn how the changed features actually work, with the result that noone is interested in upgrading before their next hardware purchase.

      Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull

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        From people trying to be objective it seems to have most of the same issues that are plauging MS with vista. The old version was good enough that there's not a compelling reason to upgrade and learn how the changed features actually work, with the result that noone is interested in upgrading before their next hardware purchase.

        Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull

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        dan neely wrote:

        the result that noone is interested in upgrading before their next hardware purchase

        Even if I do a hardware upgrade in the next several months, I may stick to XP Pro anyways. I understand that XP Pro will work with up to 4 cores ( if I was going to go 8 core, then Vista or Windows 2003 is only choice ), and to use the full 4 gigs of RAM, there is arm-twisting involved with the registry to get XP Pro to utilize above 3 gigs.

        "I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon

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        • J Joe Q

          And I took it back yesterday. I had been holding off buying a computer with Vista on it in the hopes the Vista problems would be fixed. Just after Christmas I bought my daughter a new computer to replace her old XP computer (I bought her old one just after XP came out about 5 years ago(?)). It runs well but only had a 60 Gig hard drive, which was full, it only had USB 1.1, and it was old so I thought I would upgrade. I tried for a week to get the programs she uses to work and to get up to speed. The old computer ran faster and did everything she needed so I took the new computer with Vista back, bought a USB 2.0 card and a 120 Gig hard drive as a 2nd drive and everything works great. I now understand why people are frustrated with Vista and it has made me think about becomeing a Mac user.

          Joe Q My Blog

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          Bruce Duncan
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          I've been using Vista at work for some time now, and am satisfied with it, I'm not blown away by anything though. My biggest issue is with Windows Explorer not remembering my folder view settings, and trying to guess which view I should see, and getting it completely wrong 99% of the time.

          "Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen."
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            dan neely wrote:

            the result that noone is interested in upgrading before their next hardware purchase

            Even if I do a hardware upgrade in the next several months, I may stick to XP Pro anyways. I understand that XP Pro will work with up to 4 cores ( if I was going to go 8 core, then Vista or Windows 2003 is only choice ), and to use the full 4 gigs of RAM, there is arm-twisting involved with the registry to get XP Pro to utilize above 3 gigs.

            "I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon

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            Erik Funkenbusch
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            XP doesn't care how many cores you have. It cares about physical processors. XP Pro can use 2 physical processors. If each has Quad Cores, then that's 8 usable cores in XP. When people were saying it can only do 4 Cores, they meant 2 Dual Core CPU's, cause Quad Cores weren't out yet.

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              XP doesn't care how many cores you have. It cares about physical processors. XP Pro can use 2 physical processors. If each has Quad Cores, then that's 8 usable cores in XP. When people were saying it can only do 4 Cores, they meant 2 Dual Core CPU's, cause Quad Cores weren't out yet.

              -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

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              Thanks, Eric, for the clarity. For some reason I misread it being cores, but it is the actual number of processors. I've been wanting to put an 8-core machine together. Something like two 4-core Xeons, but it's a little out of the price range right now.

              "I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon

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