Muslim Medics in the UK Refuse to roll up their sleeves for hygiene

DemonPossessed

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=519072&in_page_id=1766&ito=1490[^]

Furthermore, in Galileo's time and for quite some time afterwards, the "scientific evidence" was *against* heliocentrism. - Ilion

Christian Graus

Sounds like a trashy paper trying to create divisions in society by printing scare mongering horror stories that probably have little to no basis in fact. You should google and read what the papers were printing about Jews in 1930's Germany.

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DemonPossessed

Christian Graus wrote:

Sounds like a trashy paper trying to create divisions in society by printing scare mongering horror stories that probably have little to no basis in fact. You should google and read what the papers were printing about Jews in 1930's Germany.

Typical political correctness knee jerk reaction, even complete with the the buzz words and Nazi references. :rolleyes:

Furthermore, in Galileo's time and for quite some time afterwards, the "scientific evidence" was *against* heliocentrism. - Ilion

Lost User

Please don't believe too many things the Daily Mail publishes sensationalises.

led mike

DemonPossessed wrote:

Typical political correctness knee jerk reaction, even complete with the the buzz words and Nazi references.

Maybe so but your coloring it that way has no effect on the truthfulness of the statement, right? Or are you just a loser incapable of rational debate?

led mike

Oakman

Christian Graus wrote:

Sounds like a trashy paper trying to create divisions in society by printing scare mongering horror stories that probably have little to no basis in fact. You should google and read what the papers were printing about Jews in 1930's Germany.

Good advice, but instead I googled 'Muslim Medics Hygiene" Mirror: Women Muslim medical students are to defy a new rule that they must have bare arms below the elbow during operations - because it is immodest. Telegraph: Muslim medical students are refusing to obey hygiene rules brought in to stop the spread of deadly superbugs, because they ... Foxnews: Muslim women working at UK medical facilities are increasingly refusing to comply with the basic hygiene standard of rolling up their sleeves when their ... Liverpool Echo: Health officials are having crisis talks with Muslim medical staff who have objected to hospital hygiene rules because of religious beliefs. ...

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DemonPossessed

led mike wrote:

Maybe so but your coloring it that way has no effect on the truthfulness of the statement, right? Or are you just a loser incapable of rational debate?

If the best thing he has to say is to compare it to Nazi propaganda, do you think there is much of a rational debate to be had?

led mike wrote:

Or are you just a loser incapable of rational debate?

How very ironic. You suggest that I am incapable of rational debate and start with ad hominem fallacies. I think you have just shown that it is you who has the problem with rational debates.

Furthermore, in Galileo's time and for quite some time afterwards, the "scientific evidence" was *against* heliocentrism. - Ilion

led mike

DemonPossessed wrote:

do you think there is much of a rational debate to be had?

There always is, see Oakman's post. But I guess you prefer being number two. X|

led mike

DemonPossessed

led mike wrote:

There always is

I could have taken time to respond with a logical argument, but judging from his post, there is not much of a chance he would be interested in rational debate, so I decided not to bother.

Furthermore, in Galileo's time and for quite some time afterwards, the "scientific evidence" was *against* heliocentrism. - Ilion

Lost User

Oakman, you supply the sensational links, now look at this document http://www.his.org.uk/_db/_documents/Rituals-02.doc[^] then you will be better informed.

Lost User

Christian Graus wrote:

You should google and read what the papers were printing about Jews in 1930's Germany.

But, rather than reporting that Jews eat babies, this paper is reporting fact.

Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

Stan Shannon

Because everyone knows that our culture is far more likely to produce nazis than muslim culture is likely to produce people who refuse to comply with our standards. We can never be too careful about ourselves, after all. Why any minute now any one of us could suddenly start goose stepping around shouting 'sieg hiel' and all.

Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

Lost User

You'd think they could have at least found a stock photo that showed medial staff with exposed forearms! I love some of the words they choose crisis talks superbug Also, they switch between the words "refuse" and "object". I wonder which one it is or if any medial procedures have actually been carried out by people with unwashed forearms.

Oakman

Richard A. Abbott wrote:

Oakman, you supply the sensational links, now look at this document http://www.his.org.uk/\_db/\_documents/Rituals-02.doc then you will be better informed.

Actually I supplied the first four news organization links I hit. I am surprised that they are all considered "sensational." How many would I need to supply before it becomes "commonplace?" Since I was linking to stories that were written in the last couple of weeks, I suspect that there will be many more in the new future. I did read the document you linked to and it appears that the Muslim medics and nurses are not following the circa 1999 recomendations promulgated in it. So the stricter standards that have been imposed recently to fight the super-flu bugs are surely being ignored. I suggest you read this document so that "you will be better informed." Royal United Hospital Guidelines It is dated last September, eight years more recent than the one to which you directed me, and since it comes from a hospital, might escape the "sensational" label.

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Ilion

I read about this at least two weeks ago, DinDin. Still, it's amusing watching you and like-minded fellows ;) politely exchange opinions about this :laugh:

DemonPossessed

Ilíon wrote:

I read about this at least two weeks ago,

Oh no, you got me now. I knew I should have consulted with you before posting this!

Furthermore, in Galileo's time and for quite some time afterwards, the "scientific evidence" was *against* heliocentrism. - Ilion

Ilion

DemonPossessed wrote:

Oh no you got me there. I knew I should have consulted with you before posting this!

Is there ever a time when you don't act childish?

DemonPossessed

You respond to me in your typical manner proudly announcing that since *you* had already seen the news article (as if anyone cares), it was old news. Then you think it is I who is childish since I mock your pathetic self-importance complex? :laugh: Once again all you succeed in demonstrating is that you are profoundly stupid and dense.

Furthermore, in Galileo's time and for quite some time afterwards, the "scientific evidence" was *against* heliocentrism. - Ilion

Oakman

Today it seems that you are being pursued by a puppy-boy. You think he wants to go home with you?

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DemonPossessed

Oakman wrote:

You think he wants to go home with you?

I don't know, maybe he needs an electric anti-bark collar to help him be quiet.

Furthermore, in Galileo's time and for quite some time afterwards, the "scientific evidence" was *against* heliocentrism. - Ilion