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  • R Roger Wright

    Just curious, Jeremy - are you allowed to carry a gun there? Or are only criminals armed? We don't seem to have much violent crime here, despite the very high poverty rate. Phoenix, of course, has a relatively high level of problems with gangs, but even there the drive-by shootings so common in other big cities are fairly rare. This is one of the few places left that can be properly called the US as we have a great deal of resistance to having our rights taken away from us. We have always been allowed to carry a gun, and the criminals know it. In recent years we've made it even more frightening for a bad guy to assault innocent people by allowing every citizen who is not a felon or under medical care for mental illness to carry concealed weapons. The streets are very safe now:-) What's it like down there? There are three types of people in the world: Those who make things happen; those who watch things happen; those who wonder what happened.

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    Roger Wright wrote: Just curious, Jeremy - are you allowed to carry a gun there? Or are only criminals armed? I believe we can have a weapon that's registered, but if you conceal it you need a special permit. If it's unregistered they throw you in jail. And, of course, the convicted felon and mental patient thing is the same too. Roger Wright wrote: What's it like down there? Hot and humid. :) Roger Wright wrote: The streets are very safe now It's not guns that kill people; it's the moron behind the gun. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
    "The height of your accomplishments will equal the depth of your convictions." - William F. Scolavino

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      Roger Wright wrote: Just curious, Jeremy - are you allowed to carry a gun there? Or are only criminals armed? I believe we can have a weapon that's registered, but if you conceal it you need a special permit. If it's unregistered they throw you in jail. And, of course, the convicted felon and mental patient thing is the same too. Roger Wright wrote: What's it like down there? Hot and humid. :) Roger Wright wrote: The streets are very safe now It's not guns that kill people; it's the moron behind the gun. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
      "The height of your accomplishments will equal the depth of your convictions." - William F. Scolavino

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      Jeremy Falcon wrote: It's not guns that kill people; it's the moron behind the gun. So true... One thing I like about our concealed carry law is that you have to return to class every four years and re-certify. It rankles a bit to have any law limiting me, but I see the wisdom in requiring people to stay up to date in the current law. It also affords a chance to identify those few who have become mentally challenged since their last certification, as a new background check is done each time. Instead of marrying again, I think I'll just find a woman I don't like very much and give her a house...

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      • C Christian Graus

        Martin Marvinski wrote: If he were here he could live on his own in a house he could purchase. You're saying that housing is cheap in the USA ? Martin Marvinski wrote: So CG, tell me about your new computer... It's a P4, and it's way cool. I just don't define my life by such things. That doesn't mean I live in a cave, just that it's not the measure of my success in life. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002

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        You're saying that housing is cheap in the USA ? Comparativly speaking - yes - its cheaper than renting when the tax breaks are figured in. Almost anyone that is working fulltime and has a decent credit rating can get a home. And the credit rating thing can be fiddled with. Richard Monarchies, aristocracies, and religions....there was never a country where the majority of the people were in their secret hearts loyal to any of these institutions. Mark Twain - The Mysterious Stranger

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          Martin Marvinski wrote: What if by coming to America you could have your own house, broadband internet that you could use 24/7 (No British Telecoms here), a fancy car, and other great things, would you do it then? But Martin, I can get all of those things and anything else you can think of here in Britian. There is just no reason to move stateside - in fact there are compelling reasons not to considering the differences between our societies. Don't feel too bad - someone had to get the short straw. :-D Martin Marvinski wrote: Then you hate the world because Americans by definition are from everywhere Don't pick holes in my logic! Okay then, if you insist... let's see if you really have changes since you became a member... I dislike the strongly-American approach to, quite simply, what is right, what is wrong and what is acceptable; the assumptions that are made on others' behalf and the general attitude you convey both to yourselves and to others; the intollerance of extremes and even the pettiest of oppositions; the way you prefer to lie to yourselves than face the truth; and finally I dislike the way you interfere with international relations that quite simply do not concern you - well maybe financially - and whine and bitch if another power tries to do the same to you. Being a modern super-civilisation, I'd have thought you'd have learnt from the mistakes we have both made in the past centuries, and for a nation with a large proportion of it's citizens reportedly believing in a single divine being, you really should realise that you are not a god. In attitude. * Note that I said "strongly-American approach to" for a reason. As you said, Americans as a rule of thumb are as normal as you or I. On second thoughts... ;P The problem with America is that is is essentially a room full of individual pubescent countries that are trying to play nice together, while being told when they can go out and play by a super-power that simply cannot control them all effectively. If you were to be given true freedom, you would revert to anachy and wipe yourselves out for the pettiest of reasons. ---- I say "in your face". You say "up yours" Well, what goes up must come down - and *that* is a certainty.


          David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

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          Well, what goes up must come down - and *that* is a certainty. Look up the term "escape velocity". Everything does not have to come back down. Richard Monarchies, aristocracies, and religions....there was never a country where the majority of the people were in their secret hearts loyal to any of these institutions. Mark Twain - The Mysterious Stranger

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