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    Maruf Maniruzzaman
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    I really count the voting system of the site. Its a great way to know what other people are thinking. When I find my article or message is being treated as poor I try to improve if possible for me. With the new vote graph i see for my 22 page article 2 people voted 1 and two people voted 2 and 20 or more voted 5 (its an assumption looking at the graph). I wonder when most people voted 5 how some people could vote 1! I am not complaining here- but :omg:.

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      I really count the voting system of the site. Its a great way to know what other people are thinking. When I find my article or message is being treated as poor I try to improve if possible for me. With the new vote graph i see for my 22 page article 2 people voted 1 and two people voted 2 and 20 or more voted 5 (its an assumption looking at the graph). I wonder when most people voted 5 how some people could vote 1! I am not complaining here- but :omg:.

      Maruf Maniruzzaman Dhaka, Bangladesh. Homepage: http://www.kuashaonline.com
      [Blog] [Silverlight Clone] [Resume]

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      Nish Nishant
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      Maruf Maniruzzaman wrote:

      I wonder when most people voted 5 how some people could vote 1!

      Some people adjust their votes so that the resulting score is what they think an article should get. E.g. if they see an article rated 2 and they think it deserves a 3, they may vote a 5 so the resulting avg is around 3. It probably works the other way too :-)

      Regards, Nish


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        Maruf Maniruzzaman wrote:

        I wonder when most people voted 5 how some people could vote 1!

        Some people adjust their votes so that the resulting score is what they think an article should get. E.g. if they see an article rated 2 and they think it deserves a 3, they may vote a 5 so the resulting avg is around 3. It probably works the other way too :-)

        Regards, Nish


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        leppie
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        I instantly give 'self 5 voters' a 1 or 2 if the article definitely does not deserve it. There is no reason it should display on the 'Latest Best Picks'.

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          Maruf Maniruzzaman wrote:

          I wonder when most people voted 5 how some people could vote 1!

          Some people adjust their votes so that the resulting score is what they think an article should get. E.g. if they see an article rated 2 and they think it deserves a 3, they may vote a 5 so the resulting avg is around 3. It probably works the other way too :-)

          Regards, Nish


          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
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          Hamed Musavi
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          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

          Some people adjust their votes so that the resulting score is what they think an article should get

          That's a very bad idea IMHO, because: 1. Others may revise their last voting which cause the reasoning not to work any longer(It's not likely that a voter reviews all votes and re-vote again according to changes.) 2. They are not voting the article as it deserves, they just try to force the score to what they like. In my point of view this is not democratic. :-D 3. They consider what they believe is true and has higher priority over the rest of voters opinion, which I don't think is polite.

          // "In the end it's a little boy expressing himself." Yanni while (I_am_alive)
          {
              cout<<"I love to do more than just programming.";
          }

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            Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

            Some people adjust their votes so that the resulting score is what they think an article should get

            That's a very bad idea IMHO, because: 1. Others may revise their last voting which cause the reasoning not to work any longer(It's not likely that a voter reviews all votes and re-vote again according to changes.) 2. They are not voting the article as it deserves, they just try to force the score to what they like. In my point of view this is not democratic. :-D 3. They consider what they believe is true and has higher priority over the rest of voters opinion, which I don't think is polite.

            // "In the end it's a little boy expressing himself." Yanni while (I_am_alive)
            {
                cout<<"I love to do more than just programming.";
            }

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            Nish Nishant
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            Hamed Mosavi wrote:

            That's a very bad idea IMHO, because:

            People don't vote based on any preconceived notion of how votes should be cast. They vote as they feel like voting :-)

            Hamed Mosavi wrote:

            1. Others may revise their last voting which cause the reasoning not to work any longer(It's not likely that a voter reviews all votes and re-vote again according to changes.)

            How does that matter to the voter? He only cares for the current vote. Chances are low he'd come abck to the same article in future.

            Hamed Mosavi wrote:

            2. They are not voting the article as it deserves, they just try to force the score to what they like. In my point of view this is not democratic.

            Democracy does not come with disclaimers. And in any case CP voting is tiered - because older members have stronger votes than new members.

            Hamed Mosavi wrote:

            3. They consider what they believe is true and has higher priority over the rest of voters opinion, which I don't think is polite.

            Well, to be fully polite, Chris would have to remove the 1,2,3, and 4 ratings and allow only 5 votes :-) Btw I am not condoning this system of voting, but it's something many people do - see Leppie's post above yours.

            Regards, Nish


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              I instantly give 'self 5 voters' a 1 or 2 if the article definitely does not deserve it. There is no reason it should display on the 'Latest Best Picks'.

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              Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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              leppie wrote:

              self 5 voters

              How can you give yourself a vote? I thought the system doesn't allow that?

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                self 5 voters

                How can you give yourself a vote? I thought the system doesn't allow that?

                "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "The secret to a long and healthy life is simple. Don't get ill and don't die." Pete O'Hanlon, courtesy of Rama "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                I thought the system doesn't allow that?

                You can vote on your own articles. I don't see why that should be disallowed.

                Regards, Nish


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                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                  I thought the system doesn't allow that?

                  You can vote on your own articles. I don't see why that should be disallowed.

                  Regards, Nish


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                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                  I don't see why that should be disallowed.

                  Easy. In the short term, it could easily bias the vote value of the article. I'll grant you that with a sufficiently large number of voters this is rendered negligible. Articles are rated by peers for a reason, to judge the quality for others. I shouldn't be able to judge my own articles because it will always be biased. If I thought when I published the article that it could have been better written or included better content or whatever else could have been done to improve it then I could (and the implication is should) have done so at that time.

                  "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "The secret to a long and healthy life is simple. Don't get ill and don't die." Pete O'Hanlon, courtesy of Rama "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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                    Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                    That's a very bad idea IMHO, because:

                    People don't vote based on any preconceived notion of how votes should be cast. They vote as they feel like voting :-)

                    Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                    1. Others may revise their last voting which cause the reasoning not to work any longer(It's not likely that a voter reviews all votes and re-vote again according to changes.)

                    How does that matter to the voter? He only cares for the current vote. Chances are low he'd come abck to the same article in future.

                    Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                    2. They are not voting the article as it deserves, they just try to force the score to what they like. In my point of view this is not democratic.

                    Democracy does not come with disclaimers. And in any case CP voting is tiered - because older members have stronger votes than new members.

                    Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                    3. They consider what they believe is true and has higher priority over the rest of voters opinion, which I don't think is polite.

                    Well, to be fully polite, Chris would have to remove the 1,2,3, and 4 ratings and allow only 5 votes :-) Btw I am not condoning this system of voting, but it's something many people do - see Leppie's post above yours.

                    Regards, Nish


                    Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                    My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                    Hamed Musavi
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                    I'm not sure if I was able to express what I was thinking. What I call a bad idea is "voting based on others votes".

                    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                    How does that matter to the voter?

                    This is exactly why it's bad. A voter votes down an article that's score is 4 to force it to be 3, so gave a 1. later on, the article score drops to 1, now will he return back and revotes a 5 to return it to 3 again, no, so his reasoning to force the score to 3 is not actually working. So I don't consider this type of thinking a wise one. I hope these are meaningful.

                    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                    because older members have stronger votes than new members.

                    Didn't know that. Nice idea.

                    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                    Well, to be fully polite, Chris would have to remove the 1,2,3, and 4 ratings and allow only 5 votes

                    lol :-D Got my 5

                    // "In the end it's a little boy expressing himself." Yanni while (I_am_alive)
                    {
                        cout<<"I love to do more than just programming.";
                    }

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                      I really count the voting system of the site. Its a great way to know what other people are thinking. When I find my article or message is being treated as poor I try to improve if possible for me. With the new vote graph i see for my 22 page article 2 people voted 1 and two people voted 2 and 20 or more voted 5 (its an assumption looking at the graph). I wonder when most people voted 5 how some people could vote 1! I am not complaining here- but :omg:.

                      Maruf Maniruzzaman Dhaka, Bangladesh. Homepage: http://www.kuashaonline.com
                      [Blog] [Silverlight Clone] [Resume]

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                      PIEBALDconsult
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                      The only two worthwhile vote values are 1 and 5.

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