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  • M Marc Clifton

    Microsoft Corp. may take its case to acquire Yahoo Inc. directly to the Internet company's shareholders if the two firms can't come to a deal within the next three weeks, Microsoft CEO Steven Ballmer said Saturday. [^] Dang. What happened to being able to say "no"? And geez, Microsoft wants Yahoo that much? "If we are forced to take an offer directly to your shareholders, that action will have an undesirable impact on the value of your company from our perspective, which will be reflected in the terms of our proposal," Ballmer said in the letter. Well, as I always figured, Ballmer must be a real a*****e in person. It's also probable Microsoft wants a finalized deal before a new administration comes in, given the uncertainty about how new leadership will approach antitrust issues, he said. But even if an agreement is reached soon, it may be too late to meet that window, he added. ("he" being Carl Tobias, a law professor at the University of Richmond) Ah, there's truth in that, I would imagine. So Microsoft thinks the dems will win, eh? Maybe we should coin a new term. Ballmerball. Marc

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    Kevin McFarlane
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    You beat me to the punch on this. :)

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    • M Marc Clifton

      Microsoft Corp. may take its case to acquire Yahoo Inc. directly to the Internet company's shareholders if the two firms can't come to a deal within the next three weeks, Microsoft CEO Steven Ballmer said Saturday. [^] Dang. What happened to being able to say "no"? And geez, Microsoft wants Yahoo that much? "If we are forced to take an offer directly to your shareholders, that action will have an undesirable impact on the value of your company from our perspective, which will be reflected in the terms of our proposal," Ballmer said in the letter. Well, as I always figured, Ballmer must be a real a*****e in person. It's also probable Microsoft wants a finalized deal before a new administration comes in, given the uncertainty about how new leadership will approach antitrust issues, he said. But even if an agreement is reached soon, it may be too late to meet that window, he added. ("he" being Carl Tobias, a law professor at the University of Richmond) Ah, there's truth in that, I would imagine. So Microsoft thinks the dems will win, eh? Maybe we should coin a new term. Ballmerball. Marc

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      Maurizio Pisano
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      Dang. What happened to being able to say "no"? You can say "no", so long as you haven't done a deal with the devil made your company public. When you use shareholder's money, they expect a return on it. It's sad to say, but Yahoo are simply being foolish if they try and fight this off.

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      • M Marc Clifton

        Microsoft Corp. may take its case to acquire Yahoo Inc. directly to the Internet company's shareholders if the two firms can't come to a deal within the next three weeks, Microsoft CEO Steven Ballmer said Saturday. [^] Dang. What happened to being able to say "no"? And geez, Microsoft wants Yahoo that much? "If we are forced to take an offer directly to your shareholders, that action will have an undesirable impact on the value of your company from our perspective, which will be reflected in the terms of our proposal," Ballmer said in the letter. Well, as I always figured, Ballmer must be a real a*****e in person. It's also probable Microsoft wants a finalized deal before a new administration comes in, given the uncertainty about how new leadership will approach antitrust issues, he said. But even if an agreement is reached soon, it may be too late to meet that window, he added. ("he" being Carl Tobias, a law professor at the University of Richmond) Ah, there's truth in that, I would imagine. So Microsoft thinks the dems will win, eh? Maybe we should coin a new term. Ballmerball. Marc

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        Shog9 0
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        RIP, Y! I'll always remember my first experiences with The Internet, researching 3D engines via the Yahoo directory.

        Citizen 20.1.01

        'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'

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          RIP, Y! I'll always remember my first experiences with The Internet, researching 3D engines via the Yahoo directory.

          Citizen 20.1.01

          'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'

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          I remember when I could only connect to the Internet via CompuServe.

          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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          • O Oakman

            I remember when I could only connect to the Internet via CompuServe.

            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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            Tom Delany
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            Oakman wrote:

            I remember when I could only connect to the Internet via CompuServe.

            Oh yeah. Remember that well. :sigh: Showing our ages.

            WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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            • M Marc Clifton

              Microsoft Corp. may take its case to acquire Yahoo Inc. directly to the Internet company's shareholders if the two firms can't come to a deal within the next three weeks, Microsoft CEO Steven Ballmer said Saturday. [^] Dang. What happened to being able to say "no"? And geez, Microsoft wants Yahoo that much? "If we are forced to take an offer directly to your shareholders, that action will have an undesirable impact on the value of your company from our perspective, which will be reflected in the terms of our proposal," Ballmer said in the letter. Well, as I always figured, Ballmer must be a real a*****e in person. It's also probable Microsoft wants a finalized deal before a new administration comes in, given the uncertainty about how new leadership will approach antitrust issues, he said. But even if an agreement is reached soon, it may be too late to meet that window, he added. ("he" being Carl Tobias, a law professor at the University of Richmond) Ah, there's truth in that, I would imagine. So Microsoft thinks the dems will win, eh? Maybe we should coin a new term. Ballmerball. Marc

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              Syed Muhammad Fahad
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              So Microsoft again to play dirty! :doh:

              Syed Muhammad Fahad Application Development Tyler Technologies -- TEMS Division mfahad@mazikusa.com

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              • M Maurizio Pisano

                Dang. What happened to being able to say "no"? You can say "no", so long as you haven't done a deal with the devil made your company public. When you use shareholder's money, they expect a return on it. It's sad to say, but Yahoo are simply being foolish if they try and fight this off.

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                Whether Microsoft takes the offer to the shareholders or the management presents it in a shareholders' meeting is irrelevant. The decision can be made only by shareholders.

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                • S Syed Muhammad Fahad

                  So Microsoft again to play dirty! :doh:

                  Syed Muhammad Fahad Application Development Tyler Technologies -- TEMS Division mfahad@mazikusa.com

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                  What is dirty about it? The real owners of any company are its shareholders. Microsoft is asking Yahoo's owners whether they want to sell it. They can say no, if they don't want to.

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                    RIP, Y! I'll always remember my first experiences with The Internet, researching 3D engines via the Yahoo directory.

                    Citizen 20.1.01

                    'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'

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                    My first email :rose: :sigh:


                    OK,. what country just started work for the day ? The ASP.NET forum is flooded with retarded questions. -Christian Graus Best wishes to Rexx[^]

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                    • O Oakman

                      I remember when I could only connect to the Internet via CompuServe.

                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                      Me too. 2400 baud and CompuServe was the best show in town back in the day. Can't even imagine it now.


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                      • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

                        Me too. 2400 baud and CompuServe was the best show in town back in the day. Can't even imagine it now.


                        - S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!

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                        Steve Echols wrote:

                        Me too. 2400 baud and CompuServe was the best show in town back in the day. Can't even imagine it now

                        I joined The Source with a 300 baud telephone headset modem; by the time CompuServe bought the Source, I was up to 1200 baud and a Volksmodem (I even had a hard drive by that time). When I graduated to 2400 baud, I figgered I was gonna get windburn I was moving so fast. . . Remember when the Internet was not merely spam-free, but commercial-free?

                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                        • O Oakman

                          Steve Echols wrote:

                          Me too. 2400 baud and CompuServe was the best show in town back in the day. Can't even imagine it now

                          I joined The Source with a 300 baud telephone headset modem; by the time CompuServe bought the Source, I was up to 1200 baud and a Volksmodem (I even had a hard drive by that time). When I graduated to 2400 baud, I figgered I was gonna get windburn I was moving so fast. . . Remember when the Internet was not merely spam-free, but commercial-free?

                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                          Oakman wrote:

                          300 baud telephone headset modem

                          Right out of WarGames, nice! At least that's where I first saw an acoustic modem.

                          Oakman wrote:

                          Remember when the Internet was not merely spam-free, but commercial-free?

                          Ahhh, the sunny slopes of long ago...


                          - S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!

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                          • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

                            Oakman wrote:

                            300 baud telephone headset modem

                            Right out of WarGames, nice! At least that's where I first saw an acoustic modem.

                            Oakman wrote:

                            Remember when the Internet was not merely spam-free, but commercial-free?

                            Ahhh, the sunny slopes of long ago...


                            - S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!

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                            Steve Echols wrote:

                            Right out of WarGames, nice!

                            I had two female roomies back then and we all went to see WarGames together. They absolutely refused to believe a computer could be made "so smart."

                            Steve Echols wrote:

                            Ahhh, the sunny slopes of long ago...

                            Yeah. Unfortunately all the snow on those slopes is yellow, now. :sigh:

                            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                              Steve Echols wrote:

                              Right out of WarGames, nice!

                              I had two female roomies back then and we all went to see WarGames together. They absolutely refused to believe a computer could be made "so smart."

                              Steve Echols wrote:

                              Ahhh, the sunny slopes of long ago...

                              Yeah. Unfortunately all the snow on those slopes is yellow, now. :sigh:

                              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                              Steve Echols
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                              Oakman wrote:

                              I had two female roomies back then

                              Me too, my mom and my sister :-D I was only 13 when WarGames came out, so I guess you're a tad bit older than I am.

                              Oakman wrote:

                              Yeah. Unfortunately all the snow on those slopes is yellow, now

                              Yeah, that's unfortunate. Nothing is ever unsoiled for very long these days. Sad state of the world, in my modest opinion....


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                              • M Marc Clifton

                                Microsoft Corp. may take its case to acquire Yahoo Inc. directly to the Internet company's shareholders if the two firms can't come to a deal within the next three weeks, Microsoft CEO Steven Ballmer said Saturday. [^] Dang. What happened to being able to say "no"? And geez, Microsoft wants Yahoo that much? "If we are forced to take an offer directly to your shareholders, that action will have an undesirable impact on the value of your company from our perspective, which will be reflected in the terms of our proposal," Ballmer said in the letter. Well, as I always figured, Ballmer must be a real a*****e in person. It's also probable Microsoft wants a finalized deal before a new administration comes in, given the uncertainty about how new leadership will approach antitrust issues, he said. But even if an agreement is reached soon, it may be too late to meet that window, he added. ("he" being Carl Tobias, a law professor at the University of Richmond) Ah, there's truth in that, I would imagine. So Microsoft thinks the dems will win, eh? Maybe we should coin a new term. Ballmerball. Marc

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                                Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                Marc Clifton wrote:

                                Ballmerball.

                                He's Ballmer.

                                Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                                  Ballmerball.

                                  He's Ballmer.

                                  Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                                  Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                  Redundancy, Marc

                                  It is. If only he had said it Ballmerballs


                                  OK,. what country just started work for the day ? The ASP.NET forum is flooded with retarded questions. -Christian Graus Best wishes to Rexx[^]

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                                  • M Marc Clifton

                                    Microsoft Corp. may take its case to acquire Yahoo Inc. directly to the Internet company's shareholders if the two firms can't come to a deal within the next three weeks, Microsoft CEO Steven Ballmer said Saturday. [^] Dang. What happened to being able to say "no"? And geez, Microsoft wants Yahoo that much? "If we are forced to take an offer directly to your shareholders, that action will have an undesirable impact on the value of your company from our perspective, which will be reflected in the terms of our proposal," Ballmer said in the letter. Well, as I always figured, Ballmer must be a real a*****e in person. It's also probable Microsoft wants a finalized deal before a new administration comes in, given the uncertainty about how new leadership will approach antitrust issues, he said. But even if an agreement is reached soon, it may be too late to meet that window, he added. ("he" being Carl Tobias, a law professor at the University of Richmond) Ah, there's truth in that, I would imagine. So Microsoft thinks the dems will win, eh? Maybe we should coin a new term. Ballmerball. Marc

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                                    Well I think Mr BALLmer made it clear since the start he was doing a proxy fight, so no surprise there.

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                                    • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                                      Ballmerball.

                                      He's Ballmer.

                                      Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                                      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                      I think he should spell his name Bal{l,d}mer.

                                      -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                                      • S Syed Muhammad Fahad

                                        So Microsoft again to play dirty! :doh:

                                        Syed Muhammad Fahad Application Development Tyler Technologies -- TEMS Division mfahad@mazikusa.com

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                                        Yahoo! management is horrible; their incompetent management has reduced the value of the company. They maintain the company is worth more than the stock price reflects, but have not acted to support that. As a stockholder, I want the buyout to go through. At the very least, I would like to see it fairly considered, which it has not.

                                        Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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