CodeProject Proposal

Oakman

With all due respect, it's often a good idea to be a member of a community for some length of time before proposing sweeping changes and assuring everyone that they will be easy to implement and not affect the feeling of community that has been built up over years.

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Reynolds Glisner

Chris Maunder wrote:

The value of someone's contribution can be more than just answering a question.

I totally agree, and I believe a person's contributions should be effectively reflected, but in-lieu of either human intervention on every forum posting or some form of natural language processing one must retire to statistics and the mean for comments in the lounge and soap-box does not always correlate to usefulness or applicability in the underlying principles of CP. granted CP is also about building a community and some such around topics of interest, one must remember that the only reason why people gathered in the first place was because of the perceived quality/caliber of the community and its output - not the ability to "hang-out".

Chris Maunder wrote:

I've thought about this a lot and I'm still of two minds as to whether this improved conciseness will result in an improvement in accuracy. Will someone vote correctly in 1 of the 3 categories? 2/3? Will be get less votes overall?

I don't believe the categories should be equally weighted, as things like applicability are subjective eg: it took us 2000 years to find a good reason to use GCD. Its a complex little problem that I believe can be solved by opening it up to the community.

Chris Maunder wrote:

Adding a 'watch' capability is on the cards. I do like the note idea. Mind if I steal it?

Feel free. I just wish you would reconsider stealing point 1 as that would be of greater value. Just out of interest, if you were to apply point 1, what would be the difference in the number of gold members?

Reynolds Glisner

True, but don't prophets of relgions start preeching on the second day of their prophethood? :laugh:

Oakman

Marc Clifton wrote:

Hey, this is getting the creative juices flowing.

Okay, you should be able to turn those out by tomorrow morning. What about the rest of Sunday?

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Dalek Dave

Yes but those sad individuals who have imaginary friends are the sort of f#@% ups that crash planes into buildings. If people could give up religion the world would be a better place. Please do not bring religion into this forum, it is the antithisis of a reasoned mind!

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Dalek Dave

:-D

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Reynolds Glisner

oh come on, if the DB tables are setup nicely/properly it shouldn't be more than a few sql statements to get this thing going... :-D

Oakman

Reynolds Glisner wrote:

prophets of relgions start preeching on the second day of their prophethood

Possibly, but then they have been notified of their status by Someone with power to anoint them. Has God Chris anyone with great power been visiting you in your dreams after a three day fast?

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Reynolds Glisner

I wasn't trying to be religious, just making the point that people in history after talking to mythical beings would begin preaching a whole new set of rules, the comment made from the previous poster implied i should be around the community a bit more before making such far reaching comments, he does have a point. :)

Reynolds Glisner

I have just been informed by _Chris_my higher being not to reveal any secrets on this forum. :laugh:

Reynolds Glisner

I wonder how many of the people that have voted this post at 1, are Gold members that may have their status affected by these hypothetical changes. :laugh:

Dalek Dave

I think he has a point, but also I am reminded of the parable of the WET MONKEYS... 4 monkeys in a room, there is a step ladder in the middle of the room, and hanging from the ceiling is a large bunch of Bananas. One monkey climbs the ladder to get the bananas, and the fire hoses are turned on them, high powered, ice cold water thrashes all the monkeys. The second one tries again later, again the fire hoses. The third one starts to climb the ladder... the other monkeys stop him. One day a new monkey is introduced, and an old monkey removed. The new monkey sees the bananas and goes to get them, the other three stop him. A new monkey is introduced and another of the old monkeys removed. Same thing happens. Eventually there are four monkeys in the room, none of them go for the bananas, but none of them have experienced the fire hose, they all know, though, that you "Mustn't go for the Bananas" The parable shows that they behave how they have been conditioned, without direct knowledge of the consequences!

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Oakman

Reynolds Glisner wrote:

I wonder how many of the people that have voted this post at 1, are Gold members that may have their status affected by these hypothetical changes

Would that make their opinions less valid?

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Colin Angus Mackay

You seem to be obsessed with gold members. And that sort of thing should go in the soap box. :rolleyes:

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Reynolds Glisner

nothing in this context makes their opinion any less valid. In fact the observation had nothing to do with opinions or validity, but rather the potential "fear" some may have of loosing their oh so prized/cherished/important "Gold member" status. :-D

Reynolds Glisner

hey you're the one mentioning gold members here in that context ... ;P

Colin Angus Mackay

Reynolds Glisner wrote:

the potential "fear" some may have of loosing their oh so prized/cherished/important "Gold member" status.

Get a grip!

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Anthony Mushrow

I voted a 1 because i like CP the way it is. Sure, there seems to be a little more crap than there used to be, but this is a very busy website, you've got to expect this kind of thing. If people didn't post so much about how bad it is, the actual feeling of how bad things are wouldn't be so bad. :rolleyes: Anyway, you have no mind to say how easy or difficult the changes may be. You don't know how the site is set up in the background. Sure in theory it should be fairly simple, but what actually needs to happen may be completely different. As for approving articles. I don't do any VB code, but i can clearly see if an article written with VB is a peice of trash, or if it contains useful information, even if i can't completely follow the code. Any competent programmer should be able to follow code written in most languages, even if they can only get a rough idea of whats going on. As for gold status for different area's well, thats just a little over the top, unecessary, and probably quite a bit of work and changes. And finaly my thoughts on article rating. The rating system is already a little unreliable, what with people running around voting 1's and whatnot. It would just make it a little complicated. If people wanted to leave this much information they are perfectly free to post exactly what they liked and didn't like in the articles own little message board. Oh yeah, and about ratings and 'privelages' based on article submissions, there are quite a few mighty and awsome mebers who have only written a few (or no) articles but have helped countless people in the forums. And as for getting gold by ranting, if people rant enough on forums to get gold, then members already know who they are and can form their own opinions on them, they don't really need a 4-colour scheme to tell them how good the person is.

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Oakman

Reynolds Glisner wrote:

nothing in this context makes their opinion any less valid. In fact the observation had nothing to do with opinions or validity, but rather the potential "fear" some may have of loosing their oh so prized/cherished/important "Gold member" status

Ah, so it was basically an attempt to put down people who you felt had put you down, as opposed to having put down your suggestion?

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Thomas Stockwell

Considering you have been a member of the CodeProject for less than or around 2 months, I would not suggest that you lecture the founders or the CodeProject support staff. Especially since you seem to have no respect for the complexity of this site or the people who have created it.

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