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    News flash! Water degrades spontaneously into hydrogen and oxygen!! See here[^]!! Check it out: Tim Craig wrote: 73Zeppelin: Similarly, there was no ozone layer at one point MrPlankton: How do you know that? Tim Craig: Because at one point before green plants, there was no oxygen in the atmosphere. No oxygen, no ozone. Idiot: You do understand, do you not, that common water is made (in part) of oxygen? And that it really doesn't take much for water to "degrade" into oxygen and hydrogen? :laugh: So, apparently atmospheric ozone can be generated at ground level via spontaneous breaking of the water molecule (and perceivably remain stable until it makes its way into the upper atmosphere)! What a discovery! What genius that lies behind this new mechanism of atmospheric ozone production! Nobel prize, nobel prize! Here's a clue idiot: Water contains: 2 HYDROGEN atoms and 1 OXYGEN atom Atmospheric oxygen is O2 - TWO OXYGEN atoms. Even if (stable) water were somehow miraculously able to break down spontaneously you'd still have only a free oxygen atom. So, where does the marvellous O2 come from that you propose? I'll tell you, it comes from this reaction called photolysis: 2H2O + 2NADP+ + 8 photons (light) 2NADPH + 2H+ + O2 But since you're such an idiot, I'm interested in your crackpot theory. How, exactly, does this miraculous theory of yours fit into the ozone cycle: O2 + photon(radiation< 240 nm) -> 2 O O + O2 -> O3 It is destroyed by the reaction with atomic oxygen: O3 + O -> 2 O2 ?? Do tell. Furthermore, maybe you'd like to explain your idea of how water spontaneously dissociates by being exposed to photons and results in the production of gaseous O2. I have a glass of water and a halogen lamp that emits UV here to test your theory. Waiting....

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      News flash! Water degrades spontaneously into hydrogen and oxygen!! See here[^]!! Check it out: Tim Craig wrote: 73Zeppelin: Similarly, there was no ozone layer at one point MrPlankton: How do you know that? Tim Craig: Because at one point before green plants, there was no oxygen in the atmosphere. No oxygen, no ozone. Idiot: You do understand, do you not, that common water is made (in part) of oxygen? And that it really doesn't take much for water to "degrade" into oxygen and hydrogen? :laugh: So, apparently atmospheric ozone can be generated at ground level via spontaneous breaking of the water molecule (and perceivably remain stable until it makes its way into the upper atmosphere)! What a discovery! What genius that lies behind this new mechanism of atmospheric ozone production! Nobel prize, nobel prize! Here's a clue idiot: Water contains: 2 HYDROGEN atoms and 1 OXYGEN atom Atmospheric oxygen is O2 - TWO OXYGEN atoms. Even if (stable) water were somehow miraculously able to break down spontaneously you'd still have only a free oxygen atom. So, where does the marvellous O2 come from that you propose? I'll tell you, it comes from this reaction called photolysis: 2H2O + 2NADP+ + 8 photons (light) 2NADPH + 2H+ + O2 But since you're such an idiot, I'm interested in your crackpot theory. How, exactly, does this miraculous theory of yours fit into the ozone cycle: O2 + photon(radiation< 240 nm) -> 2 O O + O2 -> O3 It is destroyed by the reaction with atomic oxygen: O3 + O -> 2 O2 ?? Do tell. Furthermore, maybe you'd like to explain your idea of how water spontaneously dissociates by being exposed to photons and results in the production of gaseous O2. I have a glass of water and a halogen lamp that emits UV here to test your theory. Waiting....

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      73Zeppelin wrote:

      Maybe you'd like to explain how water spontaneously dissociates and results in the production of gaseous O2

      His imaginary friend?

      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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        News flash! Water degrades spontaneously into hydrogen and oxygen!! See here[^]!! Check it out: Tim Craig wrote: 73Zeppelin: Similarly, there was no ozone layer at one point MrPlankton: How do you know that? Tim Craig: Because at one point before green plants, there was no oxygen in the atmosphere. No oxygen, no ozone. Idiot: You do understand, do you not, that common water is made (in part) of oxygen? And that it really doesn't take much for water to "degrade" into oxygen and hydrogen? :laugh: So, apparently atmospheric ozone can be generated at ground level via spontaneous breaking of the water molecule (and perceivably remain stable until it makes its way into the upper atmosphere)! What a discovery! What genius that lies behind this new mechanism of atmospheric ozone production! Nobel prize, nobel prize! Here's a clue idiot: Water contains: 2 HYDROGEN atoms and 1 OXYGEN atom Atmospheric oxygen is O2 - TWO OXYGEN atoms. Even if (stable) water were somehow miraculously able to break down spontaneously you'd still have only a free oxygen atom. So, where does the marvellous O2 come from that you propose? I'll tell you, it comes from this reaction called photolysis: 2H2O + 2NADP+ + 8 photons (light) 2NADPH + 2H+ + O2 But since you're such an idiot, I'm interested in your crackpot theory. How, exactly, does this miraculous theory of yours fit into the ozone cycle: O2 + photon(radiation< 240 nm) -> 2 O O + O2 -> O3 It is destroyed by the reaction with atomic oxygen: O3 + O -> 2 O2 ?? Do tell. Furthermore, maybe you'd like to explain your idea of how water spontaneously dissociates by being exposed to photons and results in the production of gaseous O2. I have a glass of water and a halogen lamp that emits UV here to test your theory. Waiting....

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        :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

        73Zeppelin wrote:

        O2 + photon(radiation< 240 nm) ? 2 O

        You fool, everyone knows that photonic radiation is a leftist anti-christian hoax perpetrated by the morons who worship at the altar of science.

        A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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          73Zeppelin wrote:

          O2 + photon(radiation< 240 nm) ? 2 O

          You fool, everyone knows that photonic radiation is a leftist anti-christian hoax perpetrated by the morons who worship at the altar of science.

          A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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          Chris Austin wrote:

          You fool, everyone knows that photonic radiation is a leftist anti-christian hoax perpetrated by the morons who worship at the altar of science.

          :laugh: I'm sure that's the kind of response I'll get to this one! Actually, no. I bet I get ZERO response.

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            73Zeppelin wrote:

            Maybe you'd like to explain how water spontaneously dissociates and results in the production of gaseous O2

            His imaginary friend?

            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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            Oakman wrote:

            His imaginary friend?

            Most likely, yes. I like this one from him: Idiot_:"You do understand, do you not, that common water is made (in part) of oxygen? And that it really doesn't take much for water to "degrade" into oxygen and hydrogen?"_ Yeah, only a significant amount of energy and a hydrolysis setup, if that's what he means by "degrade". :laugh:

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              News flash! Water degrades spontaneously into hydrogen and oxygen!! See here[^]!! Check it out: Tim Craig wrote: 73Zeppelin: Similarly, there was no ozone layer at one point MrPlankton: How do you know that? Tim Craig: Because at one point before green plants, there was no oxygen in the atmosphere. No oxygen, no ozone. Idiot: You do understand, do you not, that common water is made (in part) of oxygen? And that it really doesn't take much for water to "degrade" into oxygen and hydrogen? :laugh: So, apparently atmospheric ozone can be generated at ground level via spontaneous breaking of the water molecule (and perceivably remain stable until it makes its way into the upper atmosphere)! What a discovery! What genius that lies behind this new mechanism of atmospheric ozone production! Nobel prize, nobel prize! Here's a clue idiot: Water contains: 2 HYDROGEN atoms and 1 OXYGEN atom Atmospheric oxygen is O2 - TWO OXYGEN atoms. Even if (stable) water were somehow miraculously able to break down spontaneously you'd still have only a free oxygen atom. So, where does the marvellous O2 come from that you propose? I'll tell you, it comes from this reaction called photolysis: 2H2O + 2NADP+ + 8 photons (light) 2NADPH + 2H+ + O2 But since you're such an idiot, I'm interested in your crackpot theory. How, exactly, does this miraculous theory of yours fit into the ozone cycle: O2 + photon(radiation< 240 nm) -> 2 O O + O2 -> O3 It is destroyed by the reaction with atomic oxygen: O3 + O -> 2 O2 ?? Do tell. Furthermore, maybe you'd like to explain your idea of how water spontaneously dissociates by being exposed to photons and results in the production of gaseous O2. I have a glass of water and a halogen lamp that emits UV here to test your theory. Waiting....

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              Wow! Definite Nobel Prize material there! Ah, another pearl of wisdom, straight from the mind of Earth's wisest prophet. Here I was, thinking that it actually took effort to decompose water, but no, apparently not so. Oh no, what other kindergarten lies have been indoctrinated with?! :( Maybe he got confused with boiling and decomposition? I don't think so, though, because that would suggest that he has an authentic, albeit poor, grasp of reality, and to accept THAT we would have to ignore everything he has ever said...ever. I would humourously suggest him writing a book - and of course take a jab at his terrible writing ability - but then I realised that that couldn't be funny...ever.

              Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing.

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                Oakman wrote:

                His imaginary friend?

                Most likely, yes. I like this one from him: Idiot_:"You do understand, do you not, that common water is made (in part) of oxygen? And that it really doesn't take much for water to "degrade" into oxygen and hydrogen?"_ Yeah, only a significant amount of energy and a hydrolysis setup, if that's what he means by "degrade". :laugh:

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                73Zeppelin wrote:

                And that it really doesn't take much for water to "degrade" into oxygen and hydrogen?"

                Which explains why there aren't any large bodies of water in Earth. I'm glad he cleared that up.

                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                  73Zeppelin wrote:

                  O2 + photon(radiation< 240 nm) ? 2 O

                  You fool, everyone knows that photonic radiation is a leftist anti-christian hoax perpetrated by the morons who worship at the altar of science.

                  A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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                  Oakman
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                  Chris Austin wrote:

                  You fool, everyone knows that photonic radiation is a leftist anti-christian hoax perpetrated by the morons who worship at the altar of science.

                  Well excuuuuuse me! Stanley, is everything a leftist . . . oops, never mind.

                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                    73Zeppelin wrote:

                    And that it really doesn't take much for water to "degrade" into oxygen and hydrogen?"

                    Which explains why there aren't any large bodies of water in Earth. I'm glad he cleared that up.

                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                    73Zeppelin
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                    Oakman wrote:

                    Which explains why there aren't any large bodies of water in Earth. I'm glad he cleared that up.

                    Yeah me too. I was getting worried about a flood. Whew!

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                      Wow! Definite Nobel Prize material there! Ah, another pearl of wisdom, straight from the mind of Earth's wisest prophet. Here I was, thinking that it actually took effort to decompose water, but no, apparently not so. Oh no, what other kindergarten lies have been indoctrinated with?! :( Maybe he got confused with boiling and decomposition? I don't think so, though, because that would suggest that he has an authentic, albeit poor, grasp of reality, and to accept THAT we would have to ignore everything he has ever said...ever. I would humourously suggest him writing a book - and of course take a jab at his terrible writing ability - but then I realised that that couldn't be funny...ever.

                      Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing.

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                      Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                      Maybe he got confused with boiling and decomposition?

                      Yeeeeeaaaaahhhh....:suss:

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                        Oakman wrote:

                        Which explains why there aren't any large bodies of water in Earth. I'm glad he cleared that up.

                        Yeah me too. I was getting worried about a flood. Whew!

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                        73Zeppelin wrote:

                        I was getting worried about a flood. Whew!

                        But what are we going to do about all that free floating hydrogen? Put up really large "No Smoking" signs?

                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                          73Zeppelin wrote:

                          I was getting worried about a flood. Whew!

                          But what are we going to do about all that free floating hydrogen? Put up really large "No Smoking" signs?

                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                          Harness it for fuel cells so we can reduce CO2 emissions!

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                            Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                            Maybe he got confused with boiling and decomposition?

                            Yeeeeeaaaaahhhh....:suss:

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                            Well, I dunno, and he's almost certainly not going to tell us what was going on in that 'brain' of his.

                            Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing.

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                              Chris Austin wrote:

                              You fool, everyone knows that photonic radiation is a leftist anti-christian hoax perpetrated by the morons who worship at the altar of science.

                              :laugh: I'm sure that's the kind of response I'll get to this one! Actually, no. I bet I get ZERO response.

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                              73Zeppelin wrote:

                              I'm sure that's the kind of response I'll get to this one!

                              I'm still trying to come up with one, but so far, I got nothing.

                              Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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                                73Zeppelin wrote:

                                I'm sure that's the kind of response I'll get to this one!

                                I'm still trying to come up with one, but so far, I got nothing.

                                Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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                                That's because the Marxists have their mind-ray trained on you.

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                                  That's because the Marxists have their mind-ray trained on you.

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                                  Impossible! I'm in my bunker.

                                  Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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                                    Impossible! I'm in my bunker.

                                    Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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                                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                                    Impossible! I'm in my bunker.

                                    :laugh: The Marxists are the bunker!

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                                      News flash! Water degrades spontaneously into hydrogen and oxygen!! See here[^]!! Check it out: Tim Craig wrote: 73Zeppelin: Similarly, there was no ozone layer at one point MrPlankton: How do you know that? Tim Craig: Because at one point before green plants, there was no oxygen in the atmosphere. No oxygen, no ozone. Idiot: You do understand, do you not, that common water is made (in part) of oxygen? And that it really doesn't take much for water to "degrade" into oxygen and hydrogen? :laugh: So, apparently atmospheric ozone can be generated at ground level via spontaneous breaking of the water molecule (and perceivably remain stable until it makes its way into the upper atmosphere)! What a discovery! What genius that lies behind this new mechanism of atmospheric ozone production! Nobel prize, nobel prize! Here's a clue idiot: Water contains: 2 HYDROGEN atoms and 1 OXYGEN atom Atmospheric oxygen is O2 - TWO OXYGEN atoms. Even if (stable) water were somehow miraculously able to break down spontaneously you'd still have only a free oxygen atom. So, where does the marvellous O2 come from that you propose? I'll tell you, it comes from this reaction called photolysis: 2H2O + 2NADP+ + 8 photons (light) 2NADPH + 2H+ + O2 But since you're such an idiot, I'm interested in your crackpot theory. How, exactly, does this miraculous theory of yours fit into the ozone cycle: O2 + photon(radiation< 240 nm) -> 2 O O + O2 -> O3 It is destroyed by the reaction with atomic oxygen: O3 + O -> 2 O2 ?? Do tell. Furthermore, maybe you'd like to explain your idea of how water spontaneously dissociates by being exposed to photons and results in the production of gaseous O2. I have a glass of water and a halogen lamp that emits UV here to test your theory. Waiting....

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                                      73Zeppelin wrote:

                                      News flash! Water degrades spontaneously into hydrogen and oxygen!! See here[^]!!

                                      Though, of course, one expects true idiots, such as 73DipStick and his Amen Chorus, to refuse to think and understand:

                                      Hydrogen peroxide tips[^] Hydrogen Peroxide on the other hand, is simply water with an extra oxygen molecule (H2O2) and breaks down into oxygen and water. It's certainly kinder on the environment. H2O2 is produced by both animal and plant cells and is formed naturally in the environment by sunlight acting on water.

                                      Water is O-H-O [edit: OOPS, obviously I meant: H-O-H] Hydrogen peroxide is H-O-O-H [edit:] When H-O-O-H "degrades" into H-O-H and O (obviously, intermediate steps happen), does that not leave a "free" atmospheric O atom? And, since atmospheric O atoms are "unstable," will not two of them "join" to from a "stable" atmospheric O-O "atom?" Did you know (and do you care, even now) that the cells of your own body generate small amounts of hydrogen peroxide? Your [edit: The] assertion[^] was that atmospheric oxygen (i.e. the O-O molecule) is *solely* the result of green plants. This assertion is not true; that was my entire point and claim.

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                                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                                        Impossible! I'm in my bunker.

                                        :laugh: The Marxists are the bunker!

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                                        Not mine...

                                        Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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                                          73Zeppelin wrote:

                                          News flash! Water degrades spontaneously into hydrogen and oxygen!! See here[^]!!

                                          Though, of course, one expects true idiots, such as 73DipStick and his Amen Chorus, to refuse to think and understand:

                                          Hydrogen peroxide tips[^] Hydrogen Peroxide on the other hand, is simply water with an extra oxygen molecule (H2O2) and breaks down into oxygen and water. It's certainly kinder on the environment. H2O2 is produced by both animal and plant cells and is formed naturally in the environment by sunlight acting on water.

                                          Water is O-H-O [edit: OOPS, obviously I meant: H-O-H] Hydrogen peroxide is H-O-O-H [edit:] When H-O-O-H "degrades" into H-O-H and O (obviously, intermediate steps happen), does that not leave a "free" atmospheric O atom? And, since atmospheric O atoms are "unstable," will not two of them "join" to from a "stable" atmospheric O-O "atom?" Did you know (and do you care, even now) that the cells of your own body generate small amounts of hydrogen peroxide? Your [edit: The] assertion[^] was that atmospheric oxygen (i.e. the O-O molecule) is *solely* the result of green plants. This assertion is not true; that was my entire point and claim.

                                          modified on Monday, May 5, 2008 10:11 AM

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                                          Oakman
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                                          IlĂ­on wrote:

                                          H2O2 is produced by both animal and plant cells and is formed naturally in the environment by sunlight acting on water.

                                          Of course!!! This explains why all fish are blondes!!!

                                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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