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  • M Matthew Faithfull

    It's Faithfull, two ll's and yes it is real and pretty rare, only 3 or 4 families in the UK. In our case its an English transliteration of a corrupted Irish Gealic word which was originally a rude name given to Viking invaders who steal our daughters. At least according to my great Aunt Kay's research. Not as rare as Heher pronounced like 'hair', on my mother's side, only one family in the entire world, also Irish although most of them left during the great potato famine.

    "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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    Matthew Faithfull wrote:

    Irish Gealic word which was originally a rude name given to Viking invaders who steal our daughters

    I live in Waterford, were the vikings landed in Ireland. The locals call the vikings grandad and grandma here ;)

    Matthew Faithfull wrote:

    only one family in the entire world

    That is amazing. I wonder how many other "unique" surnames there are in the world. Mine is common enough. Though if I tried to pronounce Heher I'd probably insult your mother's side by referring to a young, female cow.

    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

    Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

    At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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      Your mom? Do you like smelly raw fish?

      The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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      CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

      Your mom?

      No.

      CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

      Do you like smelly raw fish?

      Yes.

      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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        CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

        Your mom?

        No.

        CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

        Do you like smelly raw fish?

        Yes.

        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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        fat_boy wrote:

        Yes.

        Do you like to lick it and drink its juices?

        The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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          fat_boy wrote:

          Yes.

          Do you like to lick it and drink its juices?

          The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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          CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

          Do you like to lick it and drink its juices?

          After it is cooked, yes.

          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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            Matthew Faithfull wrote:

            Because randomness swamps fractional selective advantage, 500 bad chess players can beat one good one on average, especially if pieces don't always move as either side chooses.

            This is a false analogy - because the number of players don't stay the same. If every "win" creates a new player, and B wins preferentially over A, then eventually there will be more B players than A players. Do the math. Presto! Evolution! The mutation rate and generation time are perfectly in line with what's been observed. Presto! Evolution!

            - F

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            B doesn't win 500 times more than A so once again your math is wrong. By the time B has gone on two generations it's indestinguishable in terms of superiority from A because of it's accumulated damage. You do the math, Presto extinction!

            "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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              Matthew Faithfull wrote:

              The more you look the less evolution and more de-evolution you will see.

              So this "de-evolution"... is it part of God's plan?

              - Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is impotent. - Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. - Is he both able and willing? Whence then is evil? - Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? Epicurus

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              I'd have to say yes, just as everything else that happens in God's world is part of his plan and subject to his forknowledge. Can't say I understand that plan but then I'm not God. If you have a specific query you should ask him.

              "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

                Do you like to lick it and drink its juices?

                After it is cooked, yes.

                Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                fat_boy wrote:

                After it is cooked, yes.

                Eww, so after you have fucked her and dumped in her you get down and lick and suck the juices?

                The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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                  Oakman wrote:

                  Well the translations don't always agree with each other

                  Those who have never read the whole tend to massively exagerate the trivial differenes between translations for their own ends. It's seldom even worth arguing about. There are now unfortunately a number of highly corrupted modern 'translations' particularly coming out of the US, stick with an NIV or Good News or something with equivalent academic pedigree and you won't go far wrong.

                  Oakman wrote:

                  You aren't one of these guys who thinks that God spoke Elizabethan English, are you?

                  I'm sure he did at the time, he's considerate like that. :)

                  "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                  Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                  There are now unfortunately a number of highly corrupted modern 'translations' particularly coming out of the US, stick with an NIV or Good News or something with equivalent academic pedigree and you won't go far wrong.

                  Interesting. You've never read the originals, but you know which translations are accurate. I wish I was that clever.

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                    fat_boy wrote:

                    After it is cooked, yes.

                    Eww, so after you have fucked her and dumped in her you get down and lick and suck the juices?

                    The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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                    Ah, you are refering the female 'cünt'. No, I havent done that.

                    Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                      fat_boy wrote:

                      Reminds me of a girl I used to know

                      me, too :laugh:

                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                      That mushroom infected 50 year old stripper? Or that girl in your closet?

                      The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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                      • P Paul Watson

                        I'm allowed to believe in whatever I want to believe, no book or person tells me otherwise. Can be tough and means frequent changes but it does make me responsible for all my actions, unable to do things in the name of someone else.

                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                        At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                        Paul Watson wrote:

                        I'm allowed to believe in whatever I want to believe

                        As am I, I was only referring to your stated position as an atheist being contradicted by any potential belief in Common Grace. You can of course if you wish believe contradictory things but that way lies madness. Of course in your case your statement is not strictly true as, regrdless of your concious choice, you are incapable of believing in God without his intervention to enable you to do so but that's by the way.

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                        but it does make me responsible for all my actions

                        No, you're responsible anyway whatever you believe.

                        Paul Watson wrote:

                        unable to do things in the name of someone else.

                        A pity, doing God's work is a marvellous thing, more enjoyable than you'd believe and more rewarding than anything else you could do. For God to speak through you is the greatest privellege in the world and something never to be forgotten.

                        "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                          Ah, you are refering the female 'cünt'. No, I havent done that.

                          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                          fat_boy wrote:

                          Ah, you are refering the female 'cünt'.

                          :laugh:

                          fat_boy wrote:

                          No, I havent done that.

                          So you have given head to guys (probably muslim guys), but not girls? :wtf:

                          The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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                            fat_boy wrote:

                            Ah, you are refering the female 'cünt'.

                            :laugh:

                            fat_boy wrote:

                            No, I havent done that.

                            So you have given head to guys (probably muslim guys), but not girls? :wtf:

                            The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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                            CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

                            So you have given head to guys

                            Yes.

                            CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

                            probably muslim guys

                            No.

                            CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

                            but not girls?

                            Yes I have. Just not after I have screwed them.

                            Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                              CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

                              So you have given head to guys

                              Yes.

                              CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

                              probably muslim guys

                              No.

                              CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

                              but not girls?

                              Yes I have. Just not after I have screwed them.

                              Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                              fat_boy wrote:

                              Just not after I have screwed them.

                              Why not? You get extras when you do.

                              The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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                                fat_boy wrote:

                                Just not after I have screwed them.

                                Why not? You get extras when you do.

                                The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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                                CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

                                Why not? You get extras when you do.

                                To you perhaps. Slurping my own come has never appealed to me though.

                                Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                  Thomas George wrote:

                                  but please bear in mind that proving that the theory of evolution is wrong does not automatically prove the theory of creation.

                                  I have no desire or need to 'prove the theory of creation', firstly as for the reasons we agree it connot be proved and secondly becuase it is not a theory.

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                                  there is no dispute yet in the scientific community regarding the common origins of the animal kingdom;

                                  Not so, there has always been dispute and probably always will be. Newton's laws and evolution are not readily comparable. Newton was stating fundamental universal laws describing reality. Evolutionists, despite recent denials here, are looking for an explanation of observable facts within the framework of the known laws. They have not yet found such an explanantion that does not contradict those laws, yes they will keep searching but to falsely claim success and to falsely claim the theory hasn't changed fundamentally over time and is not therfore a different theory ( This is implicit in calling it Darwinian evolution ) is wrong. Also to interpret all the evidence gathered accoring to the theory they are supposed to be falsifying before evaluating it is bad science. This doesn't just go on with evolution but is sadly a plague in modern science.

                                  "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                                  Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                                  Newton was stating fundamental universal laws describing reality. Evolutionists, despite recent denials here, are looking for an explanation of observable facts within the framework of the known laws.

                                  Newton created a model that explains observed events, so that the model can be used later to understand/predict behavior in other situations. And it does not completely explain *any* situation. The model works in most cases because the other forces are very small to make a difference in the end result. The simplest model that can be used in any situation is preferred. Evolution is also trying to do the same - create a model to explain the state of life (from microbes to mammals). A set of theories that essentially said that mutations over a large period of time may be responsible. This may be right; may be wrong. But, I will accept it as the current scientific model until the broad scientific community accepts that the model is flawed beyond usefulness.

                                  Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                                  I have no desire or need to 'prove the theory of creation', firstly as for the reasons we agree it connot be proved and secondly becuase it is not a theory.

                                  There must be other theories that have the same level of problems that theory of evolution has, and still does not get your attention. A lot of attention is being trained on evolution just because it is perceived as a threat to religion in some way. I don't accept that it has nothing to do with Genesis. You, despite not being a biologist, are interested in *disproving* a theory that is accepted now. I think (and hope) that you do not attempt to discredit theories in other areas of science (without having the knowledge and expertise). Even graduates and post-graduates do not go around discrediting theories without research. A similar level of insecurity was shown by the Church regarding Physics in the time of Galileo.

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                                    CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

                                    Why not? You get extras when you do.

                                    To you perhaps. Slurping my own come has never appealed to me though.

                                    Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                    Nasty, how dare you say something like that in a respected website? Whats wrong with you?

                                    The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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                                      Paul Watson wrote:

                                      I'm allowed to believe in whatever I want to believe

                                      As am I, I was only referring to your stated position as an atheist being contradicted by any potential belief in Common Grace. You can of course if you wish believe contradictory things but that way lies madness. Of course in your case your statement is not strictly true as, regrdless of your concious choice, you are incapable of believing in God without his intervention to enable you to do so but that's by the way.

                                      Paul Watson wrote:

                                      but it does make me responsible for all my actions

                                      No, you're responsible anyway whatever you believe.

                                      Paul Watson wrote:

                                      unable to do things in the name of someone else.

                                      A pity, doing God's work is a marvellous thing, more enjoyable than you'd believe and more rewarding than anything else you could do. For God to speak through you is the greatest privellege in the world and something never to be forgotten.

                                      "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                                      I believe we have in ourselves and in our collective all that we need to be everything we can be. I do not need to be spoken through or be graced by a higher power to do good and live life to its full. I am only sorry that many fellow humans feel they must hear the word of god before they are able to reach their full potential. You don't need god to be good, Matthew. If I were god I'd be happier to see what I have created not need me.

                                      Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                                      you are incapable of believing in God without his intervention to enable you to do so but that's by the way.

                                      Incapable is a strong word. Give me some drugs or bring me up in a strong Christian family and I'd probably believe. I have the capabilities to believe in pink elephants orbiting Uranus. It is true though that I don't believe in things that have not made a case for existence. I see a universe without the touch of god in it.

                                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                                      At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                                        Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                                        There are now unfortunately a number of highly corrupted modern 'translations' particularly coming out of the US, stick with an NIV or Good News or something with equivalent academic pedigree and you won't go far wrong.

                                        Interesting. You've never read the originals, but you know which translations are accurate. I wish I was that clever.

                                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                        Even you could pick the consistent from the inconsistent, or perhaps not. I have had the privellege of good teaching over the years from some of the best pastors in the UK. I'm told told my current pastor has written around 100 books, most of them probably way over my head. I'd love to learn ancient Hebrew and Greek and Aramaic but I'm afraid languages are not my thing. What you understand when you read enough scripture is that it's overall theme is the nature and character of God. Now remeber this is the same God that I know so it's like reading about a good friend. Not difficult to spot any glaring errors.

                                        "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                                          Nasty, how dare you say something like that in a respected website? Whats wrong with you?

                                          The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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                                          So, hows the fat old bitch? Still claims to be your mother?

                                          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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