Words escape me #2
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A rather glaring example of how easily gullible people can be used to spread leftist propaganda. This explains most of the public support the left has on virtually every issue.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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So, we had a little tongue in cheek discussion about the latest in a line of celebreties wearing a black and white checked scarf and whether or not she is showing tacit support for Palestinian terrosism or not. So, a little more research, actually gogling for images of the 'keffiyeh' bring up this: http://images.google.com/images?ndsp=18&um=1&hl=en&rls=GGLR,GGLR:2006-03,GGLR:en&q=keffiyeh&start=0&sa=N[^] And this: Ricky Martin donned a traditional red-checked keffiyeh with the phrase “Jerusalem is ours” inscribed in Arabic[^] So, what is obvious: 1) This scarf has become a left wing terrorist sympathiser fashion accessory in the west. 2) Kkeffiyehs come in many different styles and colours, and what Rachey Ray was wearing in that advert was certainly an example one. 3) Whether Rachel Ray was wearing it to make a statement, we dont know. 4) The advertising firm and dunkin donuts should have been aware of its use as a politicised fashion accessory and never let her wear it for the picture in the first place. 5) They were right to pull the add after public protest. 6) This scarf is a protest symbol worn by terrorists and has featured in videos where victiims have been beheaded. What I am surprised at is the reaction of so many people here who wouldnt have expected the add to be pulled. What planet do you live on?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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So, we had a little tongue in cheek discussion about the latest in a line of celebreties wearing a black and white checked scarf and whether or not she is showing tacit support for Palestinian terrosism or not. So, a little more research, actually gogling for images of the 'keffiyeh' bring up this: http://images.google.com/images?ndsp=18&um=1&hl=en&rls=GGLR,GGLR:2006-03,GGLR:en&q=keffiyeh&start=0&sa=N[^] And this: Ricky Martin donned a traditional red-checked keffiyeh with the phrase “Jerusalem is ours” inscribed in Arabic[^] So, what is obvious: 1) This scarf has become a left wing terrorist sympathiser fashion accessory in the west. 2) Kkeffiyehs come in many different styles and colours, and what Rachey Ray was wearing in that advert was certainly an example one. 3) Whether Rachel Ray was wearing it to make a statement, we dont know. 4) The advertising firm and dunkin donuts should have been aware of its use as a politicised fashion accessory and never let her wear it for the picture in the first place. 5) They were right to pull the add after public protest. 6) This scarf is a protest symbol worn by terrorists and has featured in videos where victiims have been beheaded. What I am surprised at is the reaction of so many people here who wouldnt have expected the add to be pulled. What planet do you live on?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
What I am surprised at is the reaction of so many people here who wouldnt have expected the add to be pulled. What planet do you live on?
Oh come on. What BS. It's a freakin' scarf! The whole world has gone to hell in a handbasket overreacting to something so fucking trivial. Marc
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peterchen wrote:
It's their right to pull the ad, but I don't think the complaints are that valid.
So because the scarf has migrated, due to use in common fashion, from being a statement to being just an acessory, it has lost sufficient of its original meaning to warrant free use? Obviously all those who complained disagree with you.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
Obviously all those who complained disagree with you.
Uh - dozens of right wing bloggers disagree with me? The pain! The pain!
fat_boy wrote:
So because the scarf has migrated, due to use in common fashion, from being a statement to being just an acessory, it has lost sufficient of its original meaning to warrant free use?
It is a scarf, to keep you warm. I don't have to pass some terrorist exam to get one. What it symbolizes is of course in the minds of people, independent what it is. The majority of people was oblivious to the scarf or it's meaning, Michelle wasn't. Fine for her. But since when was it her principle to make the majority bow to the minorities whim? She just made an ass of herself.
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Interesting. This is unheard of in the ME.
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See this? You *are* capable of rationality. This is why I so mock you irrational behavior and statements.
You know, there are other ways of emphasising words.
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fat_boy wrote:
Obviously all those who complained disagree with you.
Uh - dozens of right wing bloggers disagree with me? The pain! The pain!
fat_boy wrote:
So because the scarf has migrated, due to use in common fashion, from being a statement to being just an acessory, it has lost sufficient of its original meaning to warrant free use?
It is a scarf, to keep you warm. I don't have to pass some terrorist exam to get one. What it symbolizes is of course in the minds of people, independent what it is. The majority of people was oblivious to the scarf or it's meaning, Michelle wasn't. Fine for her. But since when was it her principle to make the majority bow to the minorities whim? She just made an ass of herself.
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
blog: TDD - the Aha! | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighistLook at its usage in that rap video you linked to. It use there is offensive, as it is designed to be. How can you not see that and call it just a scarf? It is NOT natural atire for a westerner. The only reason it IS worn is as a political statement. That scarf is a symbol of death. Terrorist death. Beheading with a knife kind of death. Stoning death. Nasty, grim stuff.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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See this? You *are* capable of rationality. This is why I so mock you irrational behavior and statements.
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I said the same thing in a different way and now its rational? Idiot.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
I said the same thing in a different way and now its rational? Idiot.
No, Idiot, you wrote something ... an entire post ... which was rational and in which your points logically followed. edit: Refusing to see reality[^] is not rational. And your reaction to my response to that post was even worse.
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fat_boy wrote:
I said the same thing in a different way and now its rational? Idiot.
No, Idiot, you wrote something ... an entire post ... which was rational and in which your points logically followed. edit: Refusing to see reality[^] is not rational. And your reaction to my response to that post was even worse.
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Look at its usage in that rap video you linked to. It use there is offensive, as it is designed to be. How can you not see that and call it just a scarf? It is NOT natural atire for a westerner. The only reason it IS worn is as a political statement. That scarf is a symbol of death. Terrorist death. Beheading with a knife kind of death. Stoning death. Nasty, grim stuff.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
That scarf is a symbol of death. Terrorist death. Beheading with a knife kind of death. Stoning death. Nasty, grim stuff
You really have lost it, haven't you? I could do your entire rap on any prop in the ad. You might as well start claiming that every man who has a beard is a terrorist sympathizer. Or every muslim woman who wears a burka is expressing sympathy for all suicide bombers. Or that every member of the Green Berets is French. What a load of horseshit is dribbling from your lips.
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fat_boy wrote:
What I am surprised at is the reaction of so many people here who wouldnt have expected the add to be pulled. What planet do you live on?
Oh come on. What BS. It's a freakin' scarf! The whole world has gone to hell in a handbasket overreacting to something so fucking trivial. Marc
It used to be just a scarf until Arafat popularised its use and glorified the terrorist sentiments behind it. It is akin to the swastika in that the original meaning of the symbol bore little or no relation to what it came to mean. I agree that it is just a scarf but it has come to represent terrorism when worn by non-arabs. Of course the bizarre side is that it is standard head gear for many in the middle east and its roots go back even further. It is not the scarf that is the problem: it is what it symbolises.
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fat_boy wrote:
What I am surprised at is the reaction of so many people here who wouldnt have expected the add to be pulled. What planet do you live on?
Oh come on. What BS. It's a freakin' scarf! The whole world has gone to hell in a handbasket overreacting to something so fucking trivial. Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
Oh come on. What BS. It's a freakin' scarf! The whole world has gone to hell in a handbasket overreacting to something so f***ing trivial.
Oh come on. What BS. It's a freakin' [reaction to politicized provocation]! The whole [leftist] world has gone to hell in a handbasket overreacting to something so f***ing trivial. :laugh:
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It used to be just a scarf until Arafat popularised its use and glorified the terrorist sentiments behind it. It is akin to the swastika in that the original meaning of the symbol bore little or no relation to what it came to mean. I agree that it is just a scarf but it has come to represent terrorism when worn by non-arabs. Of course the bizarre side is that it is standard head gear for many in the middle east and its roots go back even further. It is not the scarf that is the problem: it is what it symbolises.
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fat_boy wrote:
I said the same thing in a different way and now its rational? Idiot.
No, Idiot, you wrote something ... an entire post ... which was rational and in which your points logically followed. edit: Refusing to see reality[^] is not rational. And your reaction to my response to that post was even worse.
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fat_boy wrote:
What I am surprised at is the reaction of so many people here who wouldnt have expected the add to be pulled. What planet do you live on?
Oh come on. What BS. It's a freakin' scarf! The whole world has gone to hell in a handbasket overreacting to something so fucking trivial. Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
The whole world has gone to hell in a handbasket overreacting to something so f***ing trivial.
Not the world, just a few of the guys whose elevator doesn't reach the top floor.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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Marc Clifton wrote:
Oh come on. What BS. It's a freakin' scarf! The whole world has gone to hell in a handbasket overreacting to something so f***ing trivial.
Oh come on. What BS. It's a freakin' [reaction to politicized provocation]! The whole [leftist] world has gone to hell in a handbasket overreacting to something so f***ing trivial. :laugh:
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Ilíon wrote:
Idiot,
Sorry, that was uncaled for. I apologise. I still say ban the bitch!
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
Sorry, that was uncaled for. I apologise.
Yes, it was uncalled for ... which is why I responded in kind (*). I accept the apology. And I do not hold grudges. (*) Maybe one of these days the little kiddies who like to whine about what a meanie I am will figure you that I merely give them what they ask for ... after they ask for it.
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You know, there are other ways of emphasising words.
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It used to be just a scarf until Arafat popularised its use and glorified the terrorist sentiments behind it. It is akin to the swastika in that the original meaning of the symbol bore little or no relation to what it came to mean. I agree that it is just a scarf but it has come to represent terrorism when worn by non-arabs. Of course the bizarre side is that it is standard head gear for many in the middle east and its roots go back even further. It is not the scarf that is the problem: it is what it symbolises.
