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  • M Marc Clifton

    So, I fire up Word 2007 and after an interminably long load time, a blank document shows up, cursor flashing and all. I start typing. No text. Wait another five seconds. Oh, there it is. And whatever Word does, load a font, whatever, then it's fine. But it's so pathetic that 1: it takes so long to load and 2: even after loading it's not really ready! Marc

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    Graham Bradshaw
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    The key question: is it repeatable? If it is, then it's Word's fault. If not, something else was going on deep within your computer at the time, and your finger of blame needs to be repointed.

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      The key question: is it repeatable? If it is, then it's Word's fault. If not, something else was going on deep within your computer at the time, and your finger of blame needs to be repointed.

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      Marc Clifton
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      Graham Bradshaw wrote:

      The key question: is it repeatable?

      Yes. Even from a clean boot.

      Graham Bradshaw wrote:

      If not, something else was going on deep within your computer at the time, and your finger of blame needs to be repointed.

      It still could be, even if it's repeatable. Marc

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      • M Marc Clifton

        Graham Bradshaw wrote:

        The key question: is it repeatable?

        Yes. Even from a clean boot.

        Graham Bradshaw wrote:

        If not, something else was going on deep within your computer at the time, and your finger of blame needs to be repointed.

        It still could be, even if it's repeatable. Marc

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        Anthony Mushrow
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        Marc Clifton wrote:

        It still could be, even if it's repeatable

        But it's much more fun to blame MS anyway :rolleyes:

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          Marc Clifton wrote:

          It still could be, even if it's repeatable

          But it's much more fun to blame MS anyway :rolleyes:

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          Zoltan Balazs
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          Hey if it's not Word then it must be Vista's fault ;)

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          • M Marc Clifton

            So, I fire up Word 2007 and after an interminably long load time, a blank document shows up, cursor flashing and all. I start typing. No text. Wait another five seconds. Oh, there it is. And whatever Word does, load a font, whatever, then it's fine. But it's so pathetic that 1: it takes so long to load and 2: even after loading it's not really ready! Marc

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            Nemanja Trifunovic
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            I just tried it on a Dell Latitude D830[^] with 2Gb RAM and 32-bit Vista Business Edition. It took less then 3 seconds to start and I was able to type immidiatelly.

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            • N Nemanja Trifunovic

              I just tried it on a Dell Latitude D830[^] with 2Gb RAM and 32-bit Vista Business Edition. It took less then 3 seconds to start and I was able to type immidiatelly.

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              leppie
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              Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

              It took less then 3 seconds to start

              That's if 3 seconds are acceptable :) Word 2003 opens and is typable in about 1 second.

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              • M Marc Clifton

                So, I fire up Word 2007 and after an interminably long load time, a blank document shows up, cursor flashing and all. I start typing. No text. Wait another five seconds. Oh, there it is. And whatever Word does, load a font, whatever, then it's fine. But it's so pathetic that 1: it takes so long to load and 2: even after loading it's not really ready! Marc

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                Bert delaVega
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                Check your set up. I have it loaded on an old thinkpad and while it does take a bit to load, I've never had any delay once it's loaded. The only things I can think of are that it's trying to connect to a shared drive (delay) or it's autosaving on startup (delay).

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  So, I fire up Word 2007 and after an interminably long load time, a blank document shows up, cursor flashing and all. I start typing. No text. Wait another five seconds. Oh, there it is. And whatever Word does, load a font, whatever, then it's fine. But it's so pathetic that 1: it takes so long to load and 2: even after loading it's not really ready! Marc

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                  Antivirus checking each keystroke? :-D

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                  • L leppie

                    Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                    It took less then 3 seconds to start

                    That's if 3 seconds are acceptable :) Word 2003 opens and is typable in about 1 second.

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                    Mladen Jankovic
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                    leppie wrote:

                    Word 2003 opens and is typable in about 1 second.

                    Start time of Word 2007 will be 1 second in 2012, too. :)

                    Mostly, when you see programmers, they aren't doing anything. One of the attractive things about programmers is that you cannot tell whether or not they are working simply by looking at them. Very often they're sitting there seemingly drinking coffee and gossiping, or just staring into space. What the programmer is trying to do is get a handle on all the individual and unrelated ideas that are scampering around in his head. (Charles M Strauss)

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      So, I fire up Word 2007 and after an interminably long load time, a blank document shows up, cursor flashing and all. I start typing. No text. Wait another five seconds. Oh, there it is. And whatever Word does, load a font, whatever, then it's fine. But it's so pathetic that 1: it takes so long to load and 2: even after loading it's not really ready! Marc

                      Thyme In The Country Interacx My Blog

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                      JimmyRopes
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                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      it's [Word] so pathetic that 1: it takes so long to load and 2: even after loading it's not really ready!

                      There is a solution. :~ Solution to Word 2007 Problems[^] :-D

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                      • M Mladen Jankovic

                        leppie wrote:

                        Word 2003 opens and is typable in about 1 second.

                        Start time of Word 2007 will be 1 second in 2012, too. :)

                        Mostly, when you see programmers, they aren't doing anything. One of the attractive things about programmers is that you cannot tell whether or not they are working simply by looking at them. Very often they're sitting there seemingly drinking coffee and gossiping, or just staring into space. What the programmer is trying to do is get a handle on all the individual and unrelated ideas that are scampering around in his head. (Charles M Strauss)

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                        True :)

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                        • C Chris Losinger

                          at least it starts for you. mine won't even start unless i open an existing doc.

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                          What OS? All my Office Start Menu shortcuts have stopped working (they just do nothing), and lost their icons. However, if I open any existing Office document, the relevant application starts and operates fine. To start without opening an existing document, I have browsed to the Office 12 directory, and on at least Excel and Word, right-clicked and chosen Add to Quicklaunch. The Quicklaunch shortcuts work just fine, and even have proper icons.

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                          • L leppie

                            Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                            It took less then 3 seconds to start

                            That's if 3 seconds are acceptable :) Word 2003 opens and is typable in about 1 second.

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                            I uninstantiated 2003 and banished to to my XP VPC. I got tired of it fighting with 2007, which caused really, really long start-ups, with "Windows installer is ...", that lasted several minutes.

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                            • realJSOPR realJSOP

                              I still use Office 97. :)

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                              My wife still holds Office 2003 over my head. She never forgave me for upgrading from Office 97. I've been afraid to take the Office 2007 CD out of it's MSDN wrapper after that last thrashing.

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                              • H Hamed Musavi

                                Marc Clifton wrote:

                                1: it takes so long to load and 2: even after loading it's not really ready!

                                I believe speed is no longer a consideration in most software firms these days. Each time someone starts a discussion about it, there's another one starting a long speech that "Today's computers are fast enough", "You are one of those optimist programmers", or "The time of a programmer is very important". No one asks that how much important is it? More important than summation of times of all poor users? The quickly hardware improves, more quickly softwares slow down. Even our todays operating systems try to show themselves more, instead of being transparent and serving as quickly as possible. Who cares about how long it takes for an application to starts up? We must care about a descend GUI, because users should be tempted to buy it when they see an snapshot.

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                                Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                                there's another one starting a long speech that "Today's computers are fast enough", "You are one of those optimist programmers", or "The time of a programmer is very important".

                                There are many circumstances when this kind of thinking is completely justified. However, it bothers me when people generalize their specific circumstances to all developers, or "a vast majority of them". Off-shelf productivity applications, like Office need to be very fast and responsive - period! It is about customers' productivity.

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                                • B Brady Kelly

                                  What OS? All my Office Start Menu shortcuts have stopped working (they just do nothing), and lost their icons. However, if I open any existing Office document, the relevant application starts and operates fine. To start without opening an existing document, I have browsed to the Office 12 directory, and on at least Excel and Word, right-clicked and chosen Add to Quicklaunch. The Quicklaunch shortcuts work just fine, and even have proper icons.

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                                  Brady Kelly wrote:

                                  What OS?

                                  vista

                                  Brady Kelly wrote:

                                  All my Office Start Menu shortcuts have stopped working (they just do nothing)

                                  yep. i still have the icons, though. a look at the Properties shows that they're not typical shortcuts (the Target is read-only and isn't an exe, for example). i fixed it by creating normal shortcuts and pinning them to the top of the start menu.

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                                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                                    it's [Word] so pathetic that 1: it takes so long to load and 2: even after loading it's not really ready!

                                    There is a solution. :~ Solution to Word 2007 Problems[^] :-D

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                                    Marc Clifton
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                                    JimmyRopes wrote:

                                    Solution to Word 2007 Problems[^]

                                    I don't know why you got 1 votes! In humor there is often truth. Marc

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                                    • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                      I just tried it on a Dell Latitude D830[^] with 2Gb RAM and 32-bit Vista Business Edition. It took less then 3 seconds to start and I was able to type immidiatelly.

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                                      Marc Clifton
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                                      Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                                      It took less then 3 seconds to start and I was able to type immidiatelly.

                                      It used to be snappy. But Vista has been degrading over time. Probably my fault. Marc

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                                        Hey if it's not Word then it must be Vista's fault ;)

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                                        Marc Clifton
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                                        Zoltan Balazs wrote:

                                        Hey if it's not Word then it must be Vista's fault

                                        Exactly! Marc

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                                        • M Marc Clifton

                                          So, I fire up Word 2007 and after an interminably long load time, a blank document shows up, cursor flashing and all. I start typing. No text. Wait another five seconds. Oh, there it is. And whatever Word does, load a font, whatever, then it's fine. But it's so pathetic that 1: it takes so long to load and 2: even after loading it's not really ready! Marc

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                                          The universe is conspiring against you: either it doesn't want you putting things in writing or it wants you to upgrade that 286 you insist on using :)

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