Reasons for upgrading from VS2003 to VS2008
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jchigg2000 wrote:
I can provide 'business reasons'
Microsoft's entire development has been adaptive to customer's needs, developing programming resources is one of their core competencies. Working with archaic technology while our customers and competition uses the latest and greatest technologies to their advantage is where we have suffered from reactive rather than proactive measures. by upgrading to the latest the company gains the advantage of having a proactive mindset for adaptive client-based development. It is truly a win-win scenario as the development using modern tools give our customers the advantage of modern power and technology while providing cheaper use of man-power resources to our own company. Truly the bottom-line effect of latest technology should go straight to the top-of-the-house as an advantage of increased efficiency and adaptive technologies in a client-based focus, saving money and gaining power is something that shows respect to the core competency of our company. We would be moving ahead rather than attempting to nail jello to the tree by using older technology in a modern world. Surely this should be obvious now how we can move-ahead into the new century with advantages of new technology saving money for our bottom line! yes, there are about 5 bingos there.
I think I'm going to paste that right into my email!
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I received an email that we would not be doing the upgrade unless I can provide 'business reasons' for why we should upgrade. I'm doing some research on my own, but thought that you guys could give me quite a few that I would probably overlook. Thanks!
There's no need. Programming hasn't gotten any easier or better in the last five years. Just keep using VS 2003. :|
I didn't get any requirements for the signature
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jchigg2000 wrote:
I can provide 'business reasons'
Microsoft's entire development has been adaptive to customer's needs, developing programming resources is one of their core competencies. Working with archaic technology while our customers and competition uses the latest and greatest technologies to their advantage is where we have suffered from reactive rather than proactive measures. by upgrading to the latest the company gains the advantage of having a proactive mindset for adaptive client-based development. It is truly a win-win scenario as the development using modern tools give our customers the advantage of modern power and technology while providing cheaper use of man-power resources to our own company. Truly the bottom-line effect of latest technology should go straight to the top-of-the-house as an advantage of increased efficiency and adaptive technologies in a client-based focus, saving money and gaining power is something that shows respect to the core competency of our company. We would be moving ahead rather than attempting to nail jello to the tree by using older technology in a modern world. Surely this should be obvious now how we can move-ahead into the new century with advantages of new technology saving money for our bottom line! yes, there are about 5 bingos there.
El Corazon wrote:
Microsoft's entire development has been adaptive to customer's needs, developing programming resources is one of their core competencies. Working with archaic technology while our customers and competition uses the latest and greatest technologies to their advantage is where we have suffered from reactive rather than proactive measures. by upgrading to the latest the company gains the advantage of having a proactive mindset for adaptive client-based development. It is truly a win-win scenario as the development using modern tools give our customers the advantage of modern power and technology while providing cheaper use of man-power resources to our own company. Truly the bottom-line effect of latest technology should go straight to the top-of-the-house as an advantage of increased efficiency and adaptive technologies in a client-based focus, saving money and gaining power is something that shows respect to the core competency of our company. We would be moving ahead rather than attempting to nail jello to the tree by using older technology in a modern world. Surely this should be obvious now how we can move-ahead into the new century with advantages of new technology saving money for our bottom line!
:wtf: You must have a business / marketing degree. That is some seriously good BS.
I didn't get any requirements for the signature
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I received an email that we would not be doing the upgrade unless I can provide 'business reasons' for why we should upgrade. I'm doing some research on my own, but thought that you guys could give me quite a few that I would probably overlook. Thanks!
If you're on pro rather than VSTS, then testing tools.....
C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
but as far as I know no one has 2008
I've been using it for months - It is great!
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Me too - superb piece of software....Must be a British thing - perhaps we appreciate things that don't have shiny lights and big bangs too much ;)
C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.
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bwhahaha! perhaps not, but Ive only been using it since January... maybe Microsoft hasn't "flicked the switch" yet :laugh:
Harvey Saayman - South Africa Junior Developer .Net, C#, SQL
you.suck = (you.passion != Programming)HarveySaayman wrote:
perhaps not, but Ive only been using it since January
Have you been using it on Windows Vista? If not then you should give it a try. Vista is very smart - after VS2008 crashes it knows how to restart it. :P
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I think if I was the only developer, I'd just start using the express edition until they went ahead and upgraded.
jchigg2000 wrote:
I think if I was the only developer, I'd just start using the express edition until they went ahead and upgraded.
I used Visual C# 2005 Express a couple of years ago to create a small web service at work (means production). I couldn't stand Delphi anymore and since my manager didn't complain...
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I received an email that we would not be doing the upgrade unless I can provide 'business reasons' for why we should upgrade. I'm doing some research on my own, but thought that you guys could give me quite a few that I would probably overlook. Thanks!
Well, if the place you work for has to ask such a question, maybe it is time to find a new place to work! :)
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El Corazon wrote:
Microsoft's entire development has been adaptive to customer's needs, developing programming resources is one of their core competencies. Working with archaic technology while our customers and competition uses the latest and greatest technologies to their advantage is where we have suffered from reactive rather than proactive measures. by upgrading to the latest the company gains the advantage of having a proactive mindset for adaptive client-based development. It is truly a win-win scenario as the development using modern tools give our customers the advantage of modern power and technology while providing cheaper use of man-power resources to our own company. Truly the bottom-line effect of latest technology should go straight to the top-of-the-house as an advantage of increased efficiency and adaptive technologies in a client-based focus, saving money and gaining power is something that shows respect to the core competency of our company. We would be moving ahead rather than attempting to nail jello to the tree by using older technology in a modern world. Surely this should be obvious now how we can move-ahead into the new century with advantages of new technology saving money for our bottom line!
:wtf: You must have a business / marketing degree. That is some seriously good BS.
I didn't get any requirements for the signature
ToddHileHoffer wrote:
You must have a business / marketing degree
No, I work, but I slept at a holiday Inn express last night! ;P
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jchigg2000 wrote:
I can provide 'business reasons'
Microsoft's entire development has been adaptive to customer's needs, developing programming resources is one of their core competencies. Working with archaic technology while our customers and competition uses the latest and greatest technologies to their advantage is where we have suffered from reactive rather than proactive measures. by upgrading to the latest the company gains the advantage of having a proactive mindset for adaptive client-based development. It is truly a win-win scenario as the development using modern tools give our customers the advantage of modern power and technology while providing cheaper use of man-power resources to our own company. Truly the bottom-line effect of latest technology should go straight to the top-of-the-house as an advantage of increased efficiency and adaptive technologies in a client-based focus, saving money and gaining power is something that shows respect to the core competency of our company. We would be moving ahead rather than attempting to nail jello to the tree by using older technology in a modern world. Surely this should be obvious now how we can move-ahead into the new century with advantages of new technology saving money for our bottom line! yes, there are about 5 bingos there.
Except El can't upgrade to VS2008 without jumping through hoops because someone said you "could" write games with it. ;P ;)
WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated.
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Except El can't upgrade to VS2008 without jumping through hoops because someone said you "could" write games with it. ;P ;)
WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated.
Tom Delany wrote:
Except El can't upgrade to VS2008 without jumping through hoops because someone said you "could" write games with it.;P
worse... its not on the approved list because you have to approve all executables before they are loaded on a machine, and VS produces unapproved execuatables. :rolleyes:
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HarveySaayman wrote:
perhaps not, but Ive only been using it since January
Have you been using it on Windows Vista? If not then you should give it a try. Vista is very smart - after VS2008 crashes it knows how to restart it. :P
Pawel Krakowiak wrote:
Have you been using it on Windows Vista?
Bwhahahahahahahahahaha, a we got a comedian in the forum :D i avoid vista like the plague, im on XP
Harvey Saayman - South Africa Junior Developer .Net, C#, SQL
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Jim Crafton wrote:
as far as I know no one has 2008.
I have VS 2008 :) but you don't me :)
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harr.. how come "know" is missing? :) but you don't know me :)
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You need to correct your grammar. It should be: "VS 2003 is teh suck"
cheers, Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote:
You need to correct your grammar. It should be: "VS 2003 is teh suck"
haha. Okay. yes. it's the suck :)
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ToddHileHoffer wrote:
You must have a business / marketing degree
No, I work, but I slept at a holiday Inn express last night! ;P
El Corazon wrote:
No, I work, but I slept at a holiday Inn express last night! [Poke tongue]
Careful, by using that phrase you're dating yourself there. Keep it up and someone'll be filing a Change Request on your software because it describes rotary aircraft as autogyros not helicopters. :laugh:
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
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Chris Maunder wrote:
You need to correct your grammar. It should be: "VS 2003 is teh suck"
haha. Okay. yes. it's the suck :)
Thanks and Regards, Michael Sync ( Blog: http://michaelsync.net)
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El Corazon wrote:
No, I work, but I slept at a holiday Inn express last night! [Poke tongue]
Careful, by using that phrase you're dating yourself there. Keep it up and someone'll be filing a Change Request on your software because it describes rotary aircraft as autogyros not helicopters. :laugh:
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
dan neely wrote:
Careful, by using that phrase you're dating yourself there. Keep it up and someone'll be filing a Change Request on your software because it describes rotary aircraft as autogyros not helicopters.
that is user optional. they can call it a gump if they so choose. :) Some of the pilots I work with are retired Vietnam pilots and their commanding officers are usually older still.
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Tom Delany wrote:
Except El can't upgrade to VS2008 without jumping through hoops because someone said you "could" write games with it.;P
worse... its not on the approved list because you have to approve all executables before they are loaded on a machine, and VS produces unapproved execuatables. :rolleyes:
El Corazon wrote:
and VS produces unapproved execuatables
So you basically can't have any compiler? How the $#@! do programmers in the military create anything? :confused:
WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated.
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El Corazon wrote:
and VS produces unapproved execuatables
So you basically can't have any compiler? How the $#@! do programmers in the military create anything? :confused:
WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated.
security already informed me a long time ago, if he had his way, I would produce nothing, say nothing, sell nothing, talk to no one, etc. That would be the safest way.... I didn't even comment, you can't say anything to that kind of logic.