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    DownUnderDev
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    is the US economic crisis due to a lack of credibility? i mean come on how can u take "Freddie Mac","Fannie Mae" & "IndyMac" seriously??? At least the "Amero" has a catchy name. i wonder if other banks will fall in the wake of these latest collapses? time to stuff the pillow cases with cash again?

    "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." -Albert Einstein

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      is the US economic crisis due to a lack of credibility? i mean come on how can u take "Freddie Mac","Fannie Mae" & "IndyMac" seriously??? At least the "Amero" has a catchy name. i wonder if other banks will fall in the wake of these latest collapses? time to stuff the pillow cases with cash again?

      "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." -Albert Einstein

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      killabyte
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      Yes the latest economic scare is entirely manufactured to convert the US dollar to the AMERO its all by design

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        Yes the latest economic scare is entirely manufactured to convert the US dollar to the AMERO its all by design

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        DownUnderDev
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        and the aliens and elvis killed JFK right? ;P

        "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." -Albert Einstein

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          is the US economic crisis due to a lack of credibility? i mean come on how can u take "Freddie Mac","Fannie Mae" & "IndyMac" seriously??? At least the "Amero" has a catchy name. i wonder if other banks will fall in the wake of these latest collapses? time to stuff the pillow cases with cash again?

          "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." -Albert Einstein

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          73Zeppelin
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          Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae aren't banks. And why the hell would anyone stuff pillow cases with cash? There's no inflation crisis.

          I'm the ocean. I'm a giant undertow.

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            Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae aren't banks. And why the hell would anyone stuff pillow cases with cash? There's no inflation crisis.

            I'm the ocean. I'm a giant undertow.

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            DownUnderDev
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            oh it was all on the news today that people lost the money that was in the bank indymac. right after that on CNBC was a interlude on the Amero currency, i had never heard of it before that sounds like a bad idea to me. wouldnt that just flood the US and Canadian job market with cheap labour?

            "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." -Albert Einstein

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              oh it was all on the news today that people lost the money that was in the bank indymac. right after that on CNBC was a interlude on the Amero currency, i had never heard of it before that sounds like a bad idea to me. wouldnt that just flood the US and Canadian job market with cheap labour?

              "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." -Albert Einstein

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              73Zeppelin
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              DownUnderDev wrote:

              right after that on CNBC was a interlude on the Amero currency, i had never heard of it before that sounds like a bad idea to me. wouldnt that just flood the US and Canadian job market with cheap labour?

              North America isn't going to establish a monetary union. Canada, especially, is opposed to it. The U.S. is Canada's largest trading partner, it's in Canada's interest to have a currency valuation below that of the Americans. It would also imply having to give up banking sovereignty - bad idea all around. There's no real reason as to why a common currency would flood the job market with cheap labour - didn't happen in the EU, won't happen in North America. Why would people all of a sudden decide to sell their labour cheap?

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                Yes the latest economic scare is entirely manufactured to convert the US dollar to the AMERO its all by design

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                jhwurmbach
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                Actually, you are not totally off the thrack. What we witness here is the shift from Dollar as the sole World currency to Euro and the growing confidence of the Chinese, wo until recently supported the Dollar with huge buyings. They seem to let the RenMinBi float freer, recently.

                Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable, let's prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all.
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                  is the US economic crisis due to a lack of credibility? i mean come on how can u take "Freddie Mac","Fannie Mae" & "IndyMac" seriously??? At least the "Amero" has a catchy name. i wonder if other banks will fall in the wake of these latest collapses? time to stuff the pillow cases with cash again?

                  "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." -Albert Einstein

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                  jhwurmbach
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                  DownUnderDev wrote:

                  "Amero"

                  Funny how the american fear the European governments erecting a system modelled after the federal US system... ...and how the European people fear erecting a system modelled after the federal US system.

                  Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable, let's prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all.
                  Douglas Adams, "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency"

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                    DownUnderDev wrote:

                    right after that on CNBC was a interlude on the Amero currency, i had never heard of it before that sounds like a bad idea to me. wouldnt that just flood the US and Canadian job market with cheap labour?

                    North America isn't going to establish a monetary union. Canada, especially, is opposed to it. The U.S. is Canada's largest trading partner, it's in Canada's interest to have a currency valuation below that of the Americans. It would also imply having to give up banking sovereignty - bad idea all around. There's no real reason as to why a common currency would flood the job market with cheap labour - didn't happen in the EU, won't happen in North America. Why would people all of a sudden decide to sell their labour cheap?

                    I'm the ocean. I'm a giant undertow.

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                    Matthew Faithfull
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                    73Zeppelin wrote:

                    North America isn't going to establish a monetary union.

                    I'll remember that you said that and pray that you're right.

                    "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                      73Zeppelin wrote:

                      North America isn't going to establish a monetary union.

                      I'll remember that you said that and pray that you're right.

                      "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                      73Zeppelin
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                      Good. You'll see that my prediction plays out.

                      I'm the ocean. I'm a giant undertow.

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                        oh it was all on the news today that people lost the money that was in the bank indymac. right after that on CNBC was a interlude on the Amero currency, i had never heard of it before that sounds like a bad idea to me. wouldnt that just flood the US and Canadian job market with cheap labour?

                        "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." -Albert Einstein

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                        Rob Graham
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                        DownUnderDev wrote:

                        people lost the money that was in the bank indymac.

                        What a crock. You need to choose more honest news sources. All accounts up to $100,000 were fully insured by the government. Maybe a few rich idiots with more tha $100K on deposit in a single account lost some, but if so it was due to their own stupidity (Since merely transferring the ammount in excess to another bank would have kept it insured). CNBC is just trying to create mass hysteria by spreading bullshit, and the Amero crap is just another example of that.

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                          DownUnderDev wrote:

                          right after that on CNBC was a interlude on the Amero currency, i had never heard of it before that sounds like a bad idea to me. wouldnt that just flood the US and Canadian job market with cheap labour?

                          North America isn't going to establish a monetary union. Canada, especially, is opposed to it. The U.S. is Canada's largest trading partner, it's in Canada's interest to have a currency valuation below that of the Americans. It would also imply having to give up banking sovereignty - bad idea all around. There's no real reason as to why a common currency would flood the job market with cheap labour - didn't happen in the EU, won't happen in North America. Why would people all of a sudden decide to sell their labour cheap?

                          I'm the ocean. I'm a giant undertow.

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                          Rob Graham
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                          73Zeppelin wrote:

                          Canada, especially, is opposed to it.

                          And Mexico won't discuss it further until all agree to change the currency's name to the "Chicano".

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                            DownUnderDev wrote:

                            people lost the money that was in the bank indymac.

                            What a crock. You need to choose more honest news sources. All accounts up to $100,000 were fully insured by the government. Maybe a few rich idiots with more tha $100K on deposit in a single account lost some, but if so it was due to their own stupidity (Since merely transferring the ammount in excess to another bank would have kept it insured). CNBC is just trying to create mass hysteria by spreading bullshit, and the Amero crap is just another example of that.

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                            Mike Gaskey
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                            Rob Graham wrote:

                            rich idiots with more tha $100K on deposit in a single account lost some

                            if I understand it correctly, the insured amount is 200k if it is a joint account.

                            Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                              73Zeppelin wrote:

                              Canada, especially, is opposed to it.

                              And Mexico won't discuss it further until all agree to change the currency's name to the "Chicano".

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                              With denominations in Taco's, Burrito's and Chalupa's

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                                Rob Graham wrote:

                                rich idiots with more tha $100K on deposit in a single account lost some

                                if I understand it correctly, the insured amount is 200k if it is a joint account.

                                Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                                Rob Graham
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                                That's correct, and retirement accounts (IRA's and Roths) up to $250K, so there is little excuse for anyone to lose money in any bank collapse.

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                                  is the US economic crisis due to a lack of credibility? i mean come on how can u take "Freddie Mac","Fannie Mae" & "IndyMac" seriously??? At least the "Amero" has a catchy name. i wonder if other banks will fall in the wake of these latest collapses? time to stuff the pillow cases with cash again?

                                  "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." -Albert Einstein

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                                  Rob Graham
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                                  DownUnderDev wrote:

                                  i mean come on how can u take "Freddie Mac","Fannie Mae" & "IndyMac" seriously???

                                  Did you forget the joke icon, or are you really so ignorant that you don't know those are just nicknames in common use by the media? "IndyMac": Independent National Mortgage Corporation. "Freddie Mac": Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation. "Fannie Mae": Federal National Mortgage Association

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                                    That's correct, and retirement accounts (IRA's and Roths) up to $250K, so there is little excuse for anyone to lose money in any bank collapse.

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                                    Rob Graham wrote:

                                    That's correct, and retirement accounts (IRA's and Roths) up to $250K, so there is little excuse for anyone to lose money in any bank collapse.

                                    How much time can the FDIC take to pay off the money? And does it have to pay it all at once? I've heard disturbing answers to these questions, but I haven't confirmed their validity.

                                    Christianity: The belief that some cosmic Jewish zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh, drink his blood, and accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree. Makes perfect sense.

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                                      Rob Graham wrote:

                                      That's correct, and retirement accounts (IRA's and Roths) up to $250K, so there is little excuse for anyone to lose money in any bank collapse.

                                      How much time can the FDIC take to pay off the money? And does it have to pay it all at once? I've heard disturbing answers to these questions, but I haven't confirmed their validity.

                                      Christianity: The belief that some cosmic Jewish zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh, drink his blood, and accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree. Makes perfect sense.

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                                      Al Beback wrote:

                                      How much time can the FDIC take to pay off the money?

                                      The FDIC is "paying it off" right now. Anyone who walks into Indy can withdraw their account up to 100,000 (etc. for other cited cases).

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                                        DownUnderDev wrote:

                                        "Amero"

                                        Funny how the american fear the European governments erecting a system modelled after the federal US system... ...and how the European people fear erecting a system modelled after the federal US system.

                                        Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable, let's prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all.
                                        Douglas Adams, "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency"

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                                        Oakman
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                                        jhwurmbach wrote:

                                        Funny how the american fear the European governments erecting a system modelled after the federal US system

                                        Actually we see the EU as the closest Europe has come to fulfilling Napolean's dream - except for Hitler, of course.

                                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                          DownUnderDev wrote:

                                          i mean come on how can u take "Freddie Mac","Fannie Mae" & "IndyMac" seriously???

                                          Did you forget the joke icon, or are you really so ignorant that you don't know those are just nicknames in common use by the media? "IndyMac": Independent National Mortgage Corporation. "Freddie Mac": Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation. "Fannie Mae": Federal National Mortgage Association

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                                          Oakman
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                                          Rob Graham wrote:

                                          Did you forget the joke icon, or are you really so ignorant that you don't know those are just nicknames in common use by the media?

                                          He's really that ignorant.

                                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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