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    Patrick Etc
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    You have 8 or 9 places all offering you jobs at once, all of which are exactly the sort of thing you want to do and all offering essentially the same pay and benefits? How in the bloody world do you choose between them? Any advice? I swear this is a problem I love to have, but now I'm finding myself stressed out about it.... If Josh Smith is still around - how do you like working as a developer in NYC?


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      You have 8 or 9 places all offering you jobs at once, all of which are exactly the sort of thing you want to do and all offering essentially the same pay and benefits? How in the bloody world do you choose between them? Any advice? I swear this is a problem I love to have, but now I'm finding myself stressed out about it.... If Josh Smith is still around - how do you like working as a developer in NYC?


      It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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      Simon P Stevens
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      Patrick S wrote:

      all offering you jobs at once

      Play them off against each other. Get them all on the same conference call, and say you'll start work tomorrow for the one that can make you the most attractive offer. You're clearly in a good position, and a valuable employee for them.

      Simon

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        You have 8 or 9 places all offering you jobs at once, all of which are exactly the sort of thing you want to do and all offering essentially the same pay and benefits? How in the bloody world do you choose between them? Any advice? I swear this is a problem I love to have, but now I'm finding myself stressed out about it.... If Josh Smith is still around - how do you like working as a developer in NYC?


        It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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        Saurabh Garg
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        If everything is same then it shouldnt matter which company you choose. -Saurabh

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          You have 8 or 9 places all offering you jobs at once, all of which are exactly the sort of thing you want to do and all offering essentially the same pay and benefits? How in the bloody world do you choose between them? Any advice? I swear this is a problem I love to have, but now I'm finding myself stressed out about it.... If Josh Smith is still around - how do you like working as a developer in NYC?


          It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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          peterchen
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          Patrick S wrote:

          What do you do when...

          If you can't get more information on the parameters (like tasks, salary/raises etc.) you have considered until now, introduce a new parameter, which can eb completely unrelated, e.g. time to commute secretary hotness factor a parque or restaurant area nearby And yes, that's dead serious advise.

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            You have 8 or 9 places all offering you jobs at once, all of which are exactly the sort of thing you want to do and all offering essentially the same pay and benefits? How in the bloody world do you choose between them? Any advice? I swear this is a problem I love to have, but now I'm finding myself stressed out about it.... If Josh Smith is still around - how do you like working as a developer in NYC?


            It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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            leppie
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            Take 2 weeks leave and intern at each for a day, tell them you want a 2 week startup bonus :)

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              You have 8 or 9 places all offering you jobs at once, all of which are exactly the sort of thing you want to do and all offering essentially the same pay and benefits? How in the bloody world do you choose between them? Any advice? I swear this is a problem I love to have, but now I'm finding myself stressed out about it.... If Josh Smith is still around - how do you like working as a developer in NYC?


              It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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              Bert delaVega
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              All things being equal, I'd look at commute, work hours, flexibility, environment, people. Basically what makes you happiest with salary and benefits out of the equation. In NYC commute and flexibility of hours would be tops on my list. Good luck!

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                You have 8 or 9 places all offering you jobs at once, all of which are exactly the sort of thing you want to do and all offering essentially the same pay and benefits? How in the bloody world do you choose between them? Any advice? I swear this is a problem I love to have, but now I'm finding myself stressed out about it.... If Josh Smith is still around - how do you like working as a developer in NYC?


                It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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                vb116
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                Patrick S wrote:

                all offering essentially the same pay and benefits?

                Well,If I were in such situation then I would categorize each of them based on location (it is not possible that all jobs are at same location, is it? :confused:), work environment, job security, company strength, company policies (like flexible work hours :) ) etc... and then choose the best according to my priorities.

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                  You have 8 or 9 places all offering you jobs at once, all of which are exactly the sort of thing you want to do and all offering essentially the same pay and benefits? How in the bloody world do you choose between them? Any advice? I swear this is a problem I love to have, but now I'm finding myself stressed out about it.... If Josh Smith is still around - how do you like working as a developer in NYC?


                  It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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                  Yusuf
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                  In last last job hunt, I'd two offers on the table. Each one has its own advantage/disadvantage. compensation was about the same, distance about the same, commute time slightly different, convenience to get to work different, people factor almost the same, technology some what different, product completely different. Both were trying to rush me, but I want to take my sweet time. Deciding which one seems very easy until I accepted and started in one. After few weeks, I'd few what if's running through my mind. study all your options very carefully and you only have one chance to make good informed decision. ;)

                  Yusuf

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                    You have 8 or 9 places all offering you jobs at once, all of which are exactly the sort of thing you want to do and all offering essentially the same pay and benefits? How in the bloody world do you choose between them? Any advice? I swear this is a problem I love to have, but now I'm finding myself stressed out about it.... If Josh Smith is still around - how do you like working as a developer in NYC?


                    It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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                    Patrick S wrote:

                    You have 8 or 9 places all offering you jobs at once, all of which are exactly the sort of thing you want to do and all offering essentially the same pay and benefits?

                    The same pills for me, please!

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                      You have 8 or 9 places all offering you jobs at once, all of which are exactly the sort of thing you want to do and all offering essentially the same pay and benefits? How in the bloody world do you choose between them? Any advice? I swear this is a problem I love to have, but now I'm finding myself stressed out about it.... If Josh Smith is still around - how do you like working as a developer in NYC?


                      It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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                      Giorgi Dalakishvili
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                      It doesn't matter which one you choose. Some time in the future you will be thinking if I had chosen the other one...

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                        You have 8 or 9 places all offering you jobs at once, all of which are exactly the sort of thing you want to do and all offering essentially the same pay and benefits? How in the bloody world do you choose between them? Any advice? I swear this is a problem I love to have, but now I'm finding myself stressed out about it.... If Josh Smith is still around - how do you like working as a developer in NYC?


                        It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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                        SilimSayo
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                        I'd assign each offer a number from 1 to 8 ( or 9). I'd then toss a coin, where heads would be for even numbers and tails for odd numbers. If I get heads, then I disqualify the odd numbers(or vice versa), repeat the process, until I end up with one job, and voila!

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                          I'd assign each offer a number from 1 to 8 ( or 9). I'd then toss a coin, where heads would be for even numbers and tails for odd numbers. If I get heads, then I disqualify the odd numbers(or vice versa), repeat the process, until I end up with one job, and voila!

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                          Dan Neely
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                          Unless you have a power of two this won't generate a random distribution. What you need are enough binary decision makers to cover the all the selection at once and then just discard any results that are too high. ie if you have 9 choices (0...8) you need 4 coins, and any set of flips between 9 and 16 trigger reflipping all four.

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                            You have 8 or 9 places all offering you jobs at once, all of which are exactly the sort of thing you want to do and all offering essentially the same pay and benefits? How in the bloody world do you choose between them? Any advice? I swear this is a problem I love to have, but now I'm finding myself stressed out about it.... If Josh Smith is still around - how do you like working as a developer in NYC?


                            It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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                            Mel Padden
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                            If you're actually stressed about it then I'm assuming that not only are the pay and benefits the same, but you think they would all be pretty much the same to work for? Because, seriously, give me a job that allows me to live reasonably well that I feel proud about going to work for in the morning, and where I get on with the people and and learn from my colleagues, and where I feel like I am contributing something myself because of my own take on the business, over any swanky or prestigious job with a six figure salary. As most of the other posts here have already stated, you will probably find some differentiating factor such as commute, relocation expense, cost of living in the place you're going to work, competence and general attitude of the people there, confidence in the product they're developing, job security, how it will look on your CV to future employers if they're a big-or-small name company, are you going to develop professionally there, and are you going to get the chance to further yourself. If after all those considerations you still can't separate them, then you just have to go on gut instinct. It might come down to the quality of the coffee they have there. Or a good bar nearby where you can unwind on a Friday. Or the frickin' tint of the windows. Or a nice desk/machine/monitor/mouse mat/complimentary pen. There's got to be something that makes you feel better about working with one of them over the other. Don't over-analyse it. Oh, and congratulations. You're in the minority in my experience. You must've earned this success well, so enjoy it.

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                              Patrick S wrote:

                              What do you do when...

                              If you can't get more information on the parameters (like tasks, salary/raises etc.) you have considered until now, introduce a new parameter, which can eb completely unrelated, e.g. time to commute secretary hotness factor a parque or restaurant area nearby And yes, that's dead serious advise.

                              We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
                              blog: TDD - the Aha! | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighist

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                              Tom Delany
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                              peterchen wrote:

                              secretary hotness factor

                              Very important! ;) ;P

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                                You have 8 or 9 places all offering you jobs at once, all of which are exactly the sort of thing you want to do and all offering essentially the same pay and benefits? How in the bloody world do you choose between them? Any advice? I swear this is a problem I love to have, but now I'm finding myself stressed out about it.... If Josh Smith is still around - how do you like working as a developer in NYC?


                                It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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                                Patrick Etc
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                                Thanks for your advice guys - I've been running around in circles about this the past few days and getting nowhere.


                                It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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