When do you loose your interest in programming ??
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Developers, thats what we are, but I beleive there are types of them: type of which they are writing code out of fun, and type who writes code out of money, and there is a type of which started as fun and turned to the money part, so ... when do you think this turn will happen?? in 3 years ?? 5 years ?? 10 years ?? more than that ??!!
Sincerely Samer Abu Rabie Software Engineer
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Developers, thats what we are, but I beleive there are types of them: type of which they are writing code out of fun, and type who writes code out of money, and there is a type of which started as fun and turned to the money part, so ... when do you think this turn will happen?? in 3 years ?? 5 years ?? 10 years ?? more than that ??!!
Sincerely Samer Abu Rabie Software Engineer
I was an enthusiastic programmer back in the days of the ZX Spectrum, moved up to a RM 380Z, but all times for personal reasons, fun and hobby etc. When I finished my education, I joined the Army for 3 years, barely touched a computer. Became an accountant and USED computers, but didn't program. I fell out of practice and knowledge, they progressed, I didn't. I am now reinterested, still an accountant, but writing stuff for work in VB, VBA and C#. (Struggling like mad to learn all these new things, as a 41 year old brain doesn't mop up stuff like a 14 year old one!). So right now I am enthusiastic and willing, but not doing it for money directly, merely as an addition to my job responsibilities. I do the web stuff too, and for a few other companies but that is just as a sideline, and I do it because I can.
------------------------------------ "I want you to imagine I have a blaster in my hand" - Zaphod Beeblebrox. "You DO have a blaster in your hand" - Freighter Pilot "Yeah, so you don't have to tax your imagination too hard" - Zaphod Beeblebrox
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Developers, thats what we are, but I beleive there are types of them: type of which they are writing code out of fun, and type who writes code out of money, and there is a type of which started as fun and turned to the money part, so ... when do you think this turn will happen?? in 3 years ?? 5 years ?? 10 years ?? more than that ??!!
Sincerely Samer Abu Rabie Software Engineer
I only lose interest when it becomes the same old mundane garbage day in and day out. Fortunately, lately it has been a lot of new stuff and ideas that rekindle the programming desires.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
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Developers, thats what we are, but I beleive there are types of them: type of which they are writing code out of fun, and type who writes code out of money, and there is a type of which started as fun and turned to the money part, so ... when do you think this turn will happen?? in 3 years ?? 5 years ?? 10 years ?? more than that ??!!
Sincerely Samer Abu Rabie Software Engineer
Every time programming gets boring I just do something else for a while. I don't think you ever loose interest. jhaga
How to earn $103/month.
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Developers, thats what we are, but I beleive there are types of them: type of which they are writing code out of fun, and type who writes code out of money, and there is a type of which started as fun and turned to the money part, so ... when do you think this turn will happen?? in 3 years ?? 5 years ?? 10 years ?? more than that ??!!
Sincerely Samer Abu Rabie Software Engineer
I loose my interest for progamming every six months on my reviews. However, I lose interest in programming at 5:00 pm every work day and don't get it back until 8:00 am the next workday. I don't code for fun at home and my employer strictly forbids contract work on the side.
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Developers, thats what we are, but I beleive there are types of them: type of which they are writing code out of fun, and type who writes code out of money, and there is a type of which started as fun and turned to the money part, so ... when do you think this turn will happen?? in 3 years ?? 5 years ?? 10 years ?? more than that ??!!
Sincerely Samer Abu Rabie Software Engineer
Programming started out very fun. It turned into job with a few spots of joy ten years ago after programming for 18 years, 10 professionally. About three years ago, after a very mentally and physically draining project, it turned into drudgery. I can still do it well, but the joy is almost entirely gone. Now, I'm just working for retirement, though I still insist on doing highly professional work which is increasingly causing problems with managers who have a maddening acceptance of mediocrity and a lack of respect, even contempt, for the engineering process. In the end, this latter thing is what has burned me out more than anything else. Of course, there's also the been-there-done that feeling in so many projects. All too often, I'm really just doing the same thing I've already done.
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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I loose my interest for progamming every six months on my reviews. However, I lose interest in programming at 5:00 pm every work day and don't get it back until 8:00 am the next workday. I don't code for fun at home and my employer strictly forbids contract work on the side.
FyreWyrm wrote:
my employer strictly forbids contract work on the side
That sucks. Even if it is non-competitive?
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
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Developers, thats what we are, but I beleive there are types of them: type of which they are writing code out of fun, and type who writes code out of money, and there is a type of which started as fun and turned to the money part, so ... when do you think this turn will happen?? in 3 years ?? 5 years ?? 10 years ?? more than that ??!!
Sincerely Samer Abu Rabie Software Engineer
Hasn't happened yet, and i've been at it for over half of my life. It's simultaneously my longest-running hobby, occupation, love, and addiction. My wife thinks i need counseling, complaining that i don't pay enough attention to her, spending too much of my life hammering away on the keyboard. "Hey baby," i tell her, "at least i let you watch..." :rolleyes:
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I loose my interest for progamming every six months on my reviews. However, I lose interest in programming at 5:00 pm every work day and don't get it back until 8:00 am the next workday. I don't code for fun at home and my employer strictly forbids contract work on the side.
FyreWyrm wrote:
I don't code for fun at home and my employer strictly forbids contract work on the side.
Hmmm, you must be in highly secretive work.... In all my previous jobs, the contract explicitly forbids working for competotrs and alike only, while leaving plenty of space for the side job as long as it is disclosed to the boss. The disclosure was introduced after someone was suspected for working for competitor secretly on the side. :-O
Yusuf
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Hasn't happened yet, and i've been at it for over half of my life. It's simultaneously my longest-running hobby, occupation, love, and addiction. My wife thinks i need counseling, complaining that i don't pay enough attention to her, spending too much of my life hammering away on the keyboard. "Hey baby," i tell her, "at least i let you watch..." :rolleyes:
Citizen 20.1.01
'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'
Shog9 wrote:
It's simultaneously my longest-running hobby, occupation, love, and addiction.
My sentiments exactly. There's nothing else in the world I'd rather do. /ravi
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Hasn't happened yet, and i've been at it for over half of my life. It's simultaneously my longest-running hobby, occupation, love, and addiction. My wife thinks i need counseling, complaining that i don't pay enough attention to her, spending too much of my life hammering away on the keyboard. "Hey baby," i tell her, "at least i let you watch..." :rolleyes:
Citizen 20.1.01
'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'
Shog9 wrote:
Hey baby," i tell her, "at least i let you watch..."
:laugh: I minimize computer stuff with mine. Learned that when one day I was going on about a very interesting lecture I just went through in my algorithms class years ago. The topic was on NP-Completeness Theory. She is a very intelligent woman, and NP Theory was just too much :laugh: Now I just keep things more mellow like software development methodologies and design considerations.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
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Hasn't happened yet, and i've been at it for over half of my life. It's simultaneously my longest-running hobby, occupation, love, and addiction. My wife thinks i need counseling, complaining that i don't pay enough attention to her, spending too much of my life hammering away on the keyboard. "Hey baby," i tell her, "at least i let you watch..." :rolleyes:
Citizen 20.1.01
'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'
That sounds so much like what happens in my house! :) (gave a 5 for that btw!)
------------------------------------ "I want you to imagine I have a blaster in my hand" - Zaphod Beeblebrox. "You DO have a blaster in your hand" - Freighter Pilot "Yeah, so you don't have to tax your imagination too hard" - Zaphod Beeblebrox
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Every time programming gets boring I just do something else for a while. I don't think you ever loose interest. jhaga
How to earn $103/month.
jhaga wrote:
I don't think you ever loose interest.
I loose my interest every day! It does me no good to keep it bound... ;P (yeah, i know, the OP misspelled it first...)
Citizen 20.1.01
'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'
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Programming started out very fun. It turned into job with a few spots of joy ten years ago after programming for 18 years, 10 professionally. About three years ago, after a very mentally and physically draining project, it turned into drudgery. I can still do it well, but the joy is almost entirely gone. Now, I'm just working for retirement, though I still insist on doing highly professional work which is increasingly causing problems with managers who have a maddening acceptance of mediocrity and a lack of respect, even contempt, for the engineering process. In the end, this latter thing is what has burned me out more than anything else. Of course, there's also the been-there-done that feeling in so many projects. All too often, I'm really just doing the same thing I've already done.
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
"been-there-done-that"... yes, at some point it simply becomes work and the amount of interesting problems to solve grows to zero. When you know that you are going to spend several days doing something that you can write in your sleep, it is time to move on, really... or, at least, to pick up a side project.
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I loose my interest for progamming every six months on my reviews. However, I lose interest in programming at 5:00 pm every work day and don't get it back until 8:00 am the next workday. I don't code for fun at home and my employer strictly forbids contract work on the side.
Tough stuff - while I don't have a second outlet for my needs (developing) at the moment it is the first time in 25 years I have not had 2 or more development streams. I don't think I could work for a company that restrictive!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Programming started out very fun. It turned into job with a few spots of joy ten years ago after programming for 18 years, 10 professionally. About three years ago, after a very mentally and physically draining project, it turned into drudgery. I can still do it well, but the joy is almost entirely gone. Now, I'm just working for retirement, though I still insist on doing highly professional work which is increasingly causing problems with managers who have a maddening acceptance of mediocrity and a lack of respect, even contempt, for the engineering process. In the end, this latter thing is what has burned me out more than anything else. Of course, there's also the been-there-done that feeling in so many projects. All too often, I'm really just doing the same thing I've already done.
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
Joe Woodbury wrote:
been-there-done that feeling
A few months ago I had a stand up shouting argument with the business who wanted a particular solution which was really stupid and would open up a support nightmare. I eventually got my way by handing in my resignation. It was not accepted and we did it my way. I got a formal letter of thanks from the business user last week when they needed to make yet another change to the structure and found it would be possible under the design we used. Now that don't happen often.
Joe Woodbury wrote:
Now, I'm just working for retirement,
That's got to be painful, at least I'm a contractor and have the option to move to another contract. I'm taking that option in January as this contract has deteriorated to support development.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Hasn't happened yet, and i've been at it for over half of my life. It's simultaneously my longest-running hobby, occupation, love, and addiction. My wife thinks i need counseling, complaining that i don't pay enough attention to her, spending too much of my life hammering away on the keyboard. "Hey baby," i tell her, "at least i let you watch..." :rolleyes:
Citizen 20.1.01
'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'
A friend of mine's wife started up the computer widows club, if she could ring you at 2 am and get an intelligible answer from the husband you qualified. I remember having to get a quieter keyboard when younger (and poorer) so the wife could sleep while I worked. Ever since we/she has insisted the house has an office.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Developers, thats what we are, but I beleive there are types of them: type of which they are writing code out of fun, and type who writes code out of money, and there is a type of which started as fun and turned to the money part, so ... when do you think this turn will happen?? in 3 years ?? 5 years ?? 10 years ?? more than that ??!!
Sincerely Samer Abu Rabie Software Engineer
I love programming and do it for fun. I also do it for money. I usually enjoy my side projects more than my work projects, but, hey, it is work after all. I find that having other hobbies, such as playing the piano, writing articles, and studying history, help to reinvigorate my interest in programming when it diminishes. For example, I recently applied some knowledge gained by studying 18th century British political theory to a software design problem. It resulted in this article[^]. I find that each of my hobbies positively influences the others.
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] All of life is just a big rambling blog post.
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Developers, thats what we are, but I beleive there are types of them: type of which they are writing code out of fun, and type who writes code out of money, and there is a type of which started as fun and turned to the money part, so ... when do you think this turn will happen?? in 3 years ?? 5 years ?? 10 years ?? more than that ??!!
Sincerely Samer Abu Rabie Software Engineer
I only write code that I think is fun and I make a lot of money doing it. I tried the enterprisey route but for me it sucked. If there wasn't money in coding it would be a hobby.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long
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I love programming and do it for fun. I also do it for money. I usually enjoy my side projects more than my work projects, but, hey, it is work after all. I find that having other hobbies, such as playing the piano, writing articles, and studying history, help to reinvigorate my interest in programming when it diminishes. For example, I recently applied some knowledge gained by studying 18th century British political theory to a software design problem. It resulted in this article[^]. I find that each of my hobbies positively influences the others.
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] All of life is just a big rambling blog post.
Josh Smith wrote:
I usually enjoy my side projects more than my work projects, but, hey, it is work after all.
I second that.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon