To destroy Al Qaeda, we must end the war on terror: Rand Corporation
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bulg wrote:
If I were to analyze his post in the same way as I just did my own, he wrote stuff like "you and your friends are criminals for what you believe in, and what you believe in is a vile, homophobic, chauvinist, pack of lies promulgated by an intolerant and cruel pedophile."
Actually, you analyzed your own by reading only the first half. If you try that with Rob's, you miss the bit you're commenting on... FAIL! ;P
bulg wrote:
I think it speaks for itself.
Funny how folks love to position themselves as mouthpieces for things that speak for themselves...
bulg wrote:
He doesn't even generalize, that's a personal attack, and is really a shame to see on these boards, and that's why it got my hackle up.
Again, i'd have a much easier time agreeing with you if i hadn't read your previous posts.
Citizen 20.1.01
'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'
I posted like that (i dont like ... i don't like...) so that I could emphasize a way to express an opinion without the personal attacks involved. And I skipped the second half of my own because it was my own rant on the soapbox, and wasn't directly relating to Rob's post. I suppose I should try again: I don't like vicious ad hominem attacks like that, and think they only inspire anger and hate, and why would you write that? If you are going to, at least be open to dialog with the people you disagree with. You can say it's pointless to try to be open to dialog w/ terrorists because they're not open, but then again, who ever tried? Ever since 9/11 it's all "we will not negotiate with terrorists" be it truly evil men or people who feel their way of life threatened in a non-trivial way. I don't think I should back down on this one.
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You should have actually read the report before you posted it, because as usual, you got it enteirely wrong. From the study: " Calling the efforts a war on terrorism raises public expectations — both in the United States and elsewhere — that there is a battlefield solution. It also tends to legitimize the terrorists’ view that they are conducting a jihad (holy war) against the United States and elevates them to the status of holy warriors. Terrorists should be perceived as criminals, not holy warriors." See, your buddies are really just common criminals, and should be imprisoned like any other. An the only excuse needed for dumping Islam into the rubbish bin of history is that it is a vile, homophobic, chauvinist, pack of lies promulgated by an intolerant and cruel pedophile.
Rob Graham wrote:
An the only excuse needed for dumping Islam into the rubbish bin of history is
probably the principle of Riba, which goes agaisnt interest and inflation, no muslim can enter into a mortgage with interest charged, it is a sin. so how is the powers that be meant to control them if they cant use the normal methods... destroy the religion itself.
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." -Albert Einstein
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Rob Graham wrote:
An the only excuse needed for dumping Islam into the rubbish bin of history is
probably the principle of Riba, which goes agaisnt interest and inflation, no muslim can enter into a mortgage with interest charged, it is a sin. so how is the powers that be meant to control them if they cant use the normal methods... destroy the religion itself.
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." -Albert Einstein
DownUnderDev wrote:
no muslim can enter into a mortgage with interest charged, it is a sin.
Used to be that no Christian could charge interest for any kind of loan. Then they saw how much money the Jews were making (Look up the House of Rothschild - the original Illuminati, just ask Zep)
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My characterization of Islam is not "politically correct", but it is nonetheless an accurate depiction of the beliefs advanced by Adnan and friends (and those same beliefs not loudly rejected by the more moderate faithful). Islam is a violent faith - one of the few that mandates the killing of those who reject its teachings. It is chauvinistic, teaching that women should be subjugated and are less worthy than men... It's founder and prophet was by most accounts a pedophile, and a violent man. Most practitioners of Islam rejects homosexuals, and persecute them with extreme violence and cruelty. All of these are mere facts for which you wish me to substitute politically correct obfuscation and double-speak. You are the one who propagates hate by pretending it does not exist. And no number of believers will make Islam any different as long as they and you maintain the pretense that it is other than what it is. You protect the real hater.
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Anybody who holds ridiculous beliefs should expect being ridiculed.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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Fake religions that no one believes but use only to make fun of fundies don't count. Sorry.
"Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler." - Albert Einstein
Jason Henderson
How can you be so sure that christianity isn't just another flying spaghetti monster in its time? My impression is that it is just that...
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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You're a TOTAL idiot. You couldn't make a logical argument if your life depended on it!
John P.
Cool! Now you don't have to be alone anymore! You need anger management.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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Cricket is violent? :confused: [EDIT]Sure, there's the occassional disagreement, but cricket's not even a contact sport.[/EDIT]
Cheers, Vıkram.
"if abusing me makes you a credible then i better give u the chance which didnt get in real" - Adnan Siddiqi.
May be his is statement is in reference to the recent incident in which an Indian "crickter" slapped his teammate for reasons unknown.
Please leave us our small pleasures, they are small, but they are ours! - Mycroft Holmes ^ .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Microsoft MVP - Visual C++[^]
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Cool! Now you don't have to be alone anymore! You need anger management.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
You must not be able to cope with that much sunlight at this time of the year. I think it damages what brain cells you have remaining.
John P.
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How can you be so sure that christianity isn't just another flying spaghetti monster in its time? My impression is that it is just that...
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
How can you be so sure that christianity isn't just another flying spaghetti monster in its time? My impression is that it is just that...
FSM is a parody religion. Created to mock Christianity and other religions. Christianity was not established to mock Judaism, but to fulfill it (according to Christ himself). I don't know anything about the FSM religion. Does it give people hope? Does it give them a way of redemption, justification, or salvation? YOU may say Christianity is a bunch of hooey because you have rejected it, those that have accepted Christ think otherwise.
"Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler." - Albert Einstein
Jason Henderson
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
Assuming No Al-qaeda, how US will terrorize other countries, what would be the excuse to getrid of Islam and How else US could screw up their own economy
I dont agree with that logic. If that logic is true, whay are those fuckers terorizing lebanon? They are mentally ill and against every culture that is better than them.
hehe i pitty for you that you can't comprehend difference between isralities and Nasrullah's brigade. and my ignorant intellectual Nasrullah of Hezb!= Taliban. That was Hezb who have been saving your ass from Israeli and American aggression. quit sucking America and grow up.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
Poor Chap doesn't know that it's Al-qaeda which have been helping US' right wingers to invade one country to other to getrid of a religion which made their religion outdated severely.
Maybe a program like this would help the billions that are seeking the truth...
bool BestReligion(CReligion religion1, CReligion religion2)
{
if (religion1.start_date > religion2.start_date)
return true;return false;
}static void main()
{
List worldReligions = new List();...
CReligion christianity = new CReligion("Christianity", "04/03/33");
worldReligions[7] = christianity;
...
CReligion islam = new CReligion("Islam", "01/01/622");
worldReligions[666] = islam;BestReligion(worldReligions[7], worlReligions[666]);
}If the U.S. wanted to get rid of Islam don't you think it would be banned in the U.S.? I have no idea why I wasted 5 minutes of my time writing this.
"Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler." - Albert Einstein
Jason Henderson
Jason Henderson wrote:
If the U.S. wanted to get rid of Islam don't you think it would be banned in the U.S.?
instead of showing off your "intelligence", if you would have spent time to figure out that BANNING a religion officially could destroy America's so called Secular image then you wouldn't have whining about wastage of your 5 mins.
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Jason Henderson wrote:
If the U.S. wanted to get rid of Islam don't you think it would be banned in the U.S.?
instead of showing off your "intelligence", if you would have spent time to figure out that BANNING a religion officially could destroy America's so called Secular image then you wouldn't have whining about wastage of your 5 mins.
If we wanted to destroy islam, then why support it at home. Your logic makes absolutely no sense.
"Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler." - Albert Einstein
Jason Henderson
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hehe i pitty for you that you can't comprehend difference between isralities and Nasrullah's brigade. and my ignorant intellectual Nasrullah of Hezb!= Taliban. That was Hezb who have been saving your ass from Israeli and American aggression. quit sucking America and grow up.
I am talking about the Alqaeda group you idiot. We dont need saving from anyone, we have a government that knows its job. Quit being an idiot
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May be his is statement is in reference to the recent incident in which an Indian "crickter" slapped his teammate for reasons unknown.
Please leave us our small pleasures, they are small, but they are ours! - Mycroft Holmes ^ .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Microsoft MVP - Visual C++[^]
That is bollocks. If two chess players at some point were at each other's throats, that doesn't make chess a violent sport.
Cheers, Vıkram.
"if abusing me makes you a credible then i better give u the chance which didnt get in real" - Adnan Siddiqi.
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If we wanted to destroy islam, then why support it at home. Your logic makes absolutely no sense.
"Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler." - Albert Einstein
Jason Henderson
"We" as if you represent entire nation? reality is something else. dont forget Bush started Crusade after 9/11 thus he was determined to crush Islam. I think you believe that only Americnas have live in advanced cities abnd have full knowledge while rest of the world is still in dark age.
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I am talking about the Alqaeda group you idiot. We dont need saving from anyone, we have a government that knows its job. Quit being an idiot
Alqaeda(if it exists) is a brain child of American Neocons. If you spend sometime in reading rather being and ignorant than it could make you a bit credible.
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"We" as if you represent entire nation? reality is something else. dont forget Bush started Crusade after 9/11 thus he was determined to crush Islam. I think you believe that only Americnas have live in advanced cities abnd have full knowledge while rest of the world is still in dark age.
Being a citizen of the U.S. with full voting rights I can safely say "we". Bush may have used the word "crusade" to describe the GWoT, but that is a common English word. "A grand concerted effort toward some purportedly worthy cause." I don't know if English is your native tongue, but American English has many many words with dual meanings. Bush was not referring to a "holy war" against Islam. I don't think I ever said anything about the advancement of other cultures.
"Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler." - Albert Einstein
Jason Henderson
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Alqaeda(if it exists) is a brain child of American Neocons. If you spend sometime in reading rather being and ignorant than it could make you a bit credible.
So lets see: America created Alqaeda so that it fights its own allies ( Turkey, Spain, UK, US, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait..) and create terror attacks around the world? Is that what they are teaching you in school son? oh yeah, its definely not what it is, some radical idiots interpretting Islam the way they want to gain power. Again, You are an idiot. Sorry could resist not mentioning that again.