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    I'll be building a new peer-to-peer network in a couple of weeks, using 3 new PCs with WinXP Pro preinstalled. Since I haven't used XP yet, are there any gotchas I should be aware of? One that comes to mind is that each machine might need to have a local user account for all of the users in order for them to share freely - is that the case? The users are complete neophytes with no computer skills beyond finding the power switch, so I want this to be as idiot-proof as possible for them. Also, I will be linking them together with a Lucent RG-1000 wireless Residential Gateway using ORiNOCO USB clients on each machine, and using the RG-1000 as the shared Internet gateway. Has anyone had any experiences with these units? Any tips to share? Thanks! "Knock, knock." "Who's there?" "Recursion." "Recursion who?" "Knock, knock..."

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      I'll be building a new peer-to-peer network in a couple of weeks, using 3 new PCs with WinXP Pro preinstalled. Since I haven't used XP yet, are there any gotchas I should be aware of? One that comes to mind is that each machine might need to have a local user account for all of the users in order for them to share freely - is that the case? The users are complete neophytes with no computer skills beyond finding the power switch, so I want this to be as idiot-proof as possible for them. Also, I will be linking them together with a Lucent RG-1000 wireless Residential Gateway using ORiNOCO USB clients on each machine, and using the RG-1000 as the shared Internet gateway. Has anyone had any experiences with these units? Any tips to share? Thanks! "Knock, knock." "Who's there?" "Recursion." "Recursion who?" "Knock, knock..."

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      Same Username and Password is required for all machines to be able to share data freerly. Of course you can connect to a share using a different username and password, however, these would need to be provided each time you start the computer. You know that, all machines need to belong to the same workgroup, and of course same ip class, and same subnet mask. Haven't incurred any problems, but yet I have setup WinXP in a P2P network, only once! Roger Wright wrote: Also, I will be linking them together with a Lucent RG-1000 wireless Residential Gateway using ORiNOCO USB clients on each machine, and using the RG-1000 as the shared Internet gateway. Has anyone had any experiences with these units? Not with these units, however used SmartBridges wireless kit. Pretty cool, although only work up to 11 MB/s :(( . Had some problems detecting it through WinXP, but sorted now (Read the manual!) Regards, Venet. -------- Black holes are where God divided by zero.(Steven Wright)

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        Same Username and Password is required for all machines to be able to share data freerly. Of course you can connect to a share using a different username and password, however, these would need to be provided each time you start the computer. You know that, all machines need to belong to the same workgroup, and of course same ip class, and same subnet mask. Haven't incurred any problems, but yet I have setup WinXP in a P2P network, only once! Roger Wright wrote: Also, I will be linking them together with a Lucent RG-1000 wireless Residential Gateway using ORiNOCO USB clients on each machine, and using the RG-1000 as the shared Internet gateway. Has anyone had any experiences with these units? Not with these units, however used SmartBridges wireless kit. Pretty cool, although only work up to 11 MB/s :(( . Had some problems detecting it through WinXP, but sorted now (Read the manual!) Regards, Venet. -------- Black holes are where God divided by zero.(Steven Wright)

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        Venet wrote: Same Username and Password is required for all machines to be able to share data freerly The Admin account will, of course, be the same for all machines, but for users I'll need to use different accounts. I'm thinking that it should be simple enough to add three users to each machine, since there's so few of them, and give rights to the Local Users group on all. They don't need much in the way of confidentiality. Venet wrote: Pretty cool, although only work up to 11 MB/s Considering that now their rate of data transer is limited to how fast they can carry a floppy disk between ofices, this should be a great improvement!:-D Venet wrote: Read the manual Always good advice! Thanks for your thoughts... "Knock, knock." "Who's there?" "Recursion." "Recursion who?" "Knock, knock..."

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          Venet wrote: Same Username and Password is required for all machines to be able to share data freerly The Admin account will, of course, be the same for all machines, but for users I'll need to use different accounts. I'm thinking that it should be simple enough to add three users to each machine, since there's so few of them, and give rights to the Local Users group on all. They don't need much in the way of confidentiality. Venet wrote: Pretty cool, although only work up to 11 MB/s Considering that now their rate of data transer is limited to how fast they can carry a floppy disk between ofices, this should be a great improvement!:-D Venet wrote: Read the manual Always good advice! Thanks for your thoughts... "Knock, knock." "Who's there?" "Recursion." "Recursion who?" "Knock, knock..."

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          Roger Wright wrote: I'm thinking that it should be simple enough to add three users to each machine, since there's so few of them, and give rights to the Local Users group on all. They don't need much in the way of confidentiality. Or you can setup a file server and map a drive on each machine that points to the shared space. Roger Wright wrote: Considering that now their rate of data transer is limited to how fast they can carry a floppy disk between ofices, this should be a great improvement! lol :-D:-D:-D Roger Wright wrote: Venet wrote: Read the manual Always good advice! Well, actually that's what I did myself to sort out the problem. If everything else fails read the manual :-D Regards, Venet. -------- Black holes are where God divided by zero.(Steven Wright)

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            Roger Wright wrote: I'm thinking that it should be simple enough to add three users to each machine, since there's so few of them, and give rights to the Local Users group on all. They don't need much in the way of confidentiality. Or you can setup a file server and map a drive on each machine that points to the shared space. Roger Wright wrote: Considering that now their rate of data transer is limited to how fast they can carry a floppy disk between ofices, this should be a great improvement! lol :-D:-D:-D Roger Wright wrote: Venet wrote: Read the manual Always good advice! Well, actually that's what I did myself to sort out the problem. If everything else fails read the manual :-D Regards, Venet. -------- Black holes are where God divided by zero.(Steven Wright)

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            Venet wrote: If everything else fails read the manual Having spent most of the morning trying to get the manuals off their website without success (server not found), this may be a challenge! I even tried to sneak in by signing up as a reseller, but the email generated by filling out the online form was returned because the server doesn't recognize that user:laugh: I'll bet they lose a lot of resellers that way! "Knock, knock." "Who's there?" "Recursion." "Recursion who?" "Knock, knock..."

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              Venet wrote: If everything else fails read the manual Having spent most of the morning trying to get the manuals off their website without success (server not found), this may be a challenge! I even tried to sneak in by signing up as a reseller, but the email generated by filling out the online form was returned because the server doesn't recognize that user:laugh: I'll bet they lose a lot of resellers that way! "Knock, knock." "Who's there?" "Recursion." "Recursion who?" "Knock, knock..."

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              Badly managed company then ? Regards, Venet. -------- Black holes are where God divided by zero.(Steven Wright)

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                Badly managed company then ? Regards, Venet. -------- Black holes are where God divided by zero.(Steven Wright)

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                Growing pains would be my guess. Agere was spun off from Lucent a couple of years ago, and the ORiNOCO product line is split - Lucent has the Access Points and Gateways, while Agere handles the RF cards and other microelectronics. I hope they get their act together soon, as the products are great! "Knock, knock." "Who's there?" "Recursion." "Recursion who?" "Knock, knock..."

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                  I'll be building a new peer-to-peer network in a couple of weeks, using 3 new PCs with WinXP Pro preinstalled. Since I haven't used XP yet, are there any gotchas I should be aware of? One that comes to mind is that each machine might need to have a local user account for all of the users in order for them to share freely - is that the case? The users are complete neophytes with no computer skills beyond finding the power switch, so I want this to be as idiot-proof as possible for them. Also, I will be linking them together with a Lucent RG-1000 wireless Residential Gateway using ORiNOCO USB clients on each machine, and using the RG-1000 as the shared Internet gateway. Has anyone had any experiences with these units? Any tips to share? Thanks! "Knock, knock." "Who's there?" "Recursion." "Recursion who?" "Knock, knock..."

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                  Make sure you set all the passwords to never expire for all the users on all of the machines. I had this problem with my housemate's PC. I initially created a useraccount for him on my PC, and one for me on his, using the same passwords as we use on our own machines. The problem was that these accounts expired on each other's machines. We both got notified to change our own local passwords, but the mirrored accounts just got left in limbo, meaning shares stopped working -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                    Make sure you set all the passwords to never expire for all the users on all of the machines. I had this problem with my housemate's PC. I initially created a useraccount for him on my PC, and one for me on his, using the same passwords as we use on our own machines. The problem was that these accounts expired on each other's machines. We both got notified to change our own local passwords, but the mirrored accounts just got left in limbo, meaning shares stopped working -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                    And Tick "User cannot change Password"! :) Regards, Venet. -------- Black holes are where God divided by zero.(Steven Wright)

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                      Make sure you set all the passwords to never expire for all the users on all of the machines. I had this problem with my housemate's PC. I initially created a useraccount for him on my PC, and one for me on his, using the same passwords as we use on our own machines. The problem was that these accounts expired on each other's machines. We both got notified to change our own local passwords, but the mirrored accounts just got left in limbo, meaning shares stopped working -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                      Roger Wright
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                      Good advice! Supposedly the ORiNOCO gateway is a DHCP server, too, so I shouldn't have to dink around with the TCP/IP settings.:) "Knock, knock." "Who's there?" "Recursion." "Recursion who?" "Knock, knock..."

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