Adnan, do you have ADD ?
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Easy - the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit was not given until Acts 2, and that's when the church age started. The word translated 'comforter' means a helper or assistant. If you go down a few verses: Jhn 14:26 But 1161 the Comforter 3875, [which is] the Holy 40 Ghost 4151, whom 3739 the Father 3962 will send 3992 in 1722 my 3450 name 3686, he 1565 shall teach 1321 you 5209 all things 3956, and 2532 bring 5279 0 all things 3956 to 5279 0 your 5209 remembrance 5279 , whatsoever 3739 I have said 2036 unto you 5213. The same word is used here, so Jesus defines who the comforter is. Jhn 15:26 But 1161 when 3752 the Comforter 3875 is come 2064 , whom 3739 I 1473 will send 3992 unto you 5213 from 3844 the Father 3962, [even] the Spirit 4151 of truth 225, which 3739 proceedeth 1607 from 3844 the Father 3962, he 1565 shall testify 3140 of 4012 me 1700: Again. Jhn 16:7 Nevertheless 235 I 1473 tell 3004 you 5213 the truth 225; It is expedient 4851 for you 5213 that 2443 I 1473 go away 565 : for 1063 if 3362 0 I go 565 0 not 3362 away 565 , the Comforter 3875 will 2064 0 not 3756 come 2064 unto 4314 you 5209; but 1161 if 1437 I depart 4198 , I will send 3992 him 846 unto 4314 you 5209. This is the only time the word is used in a way that could be taken to mean anything other than the Holy Spirit. However, Jesus had to die so that the Holy Spirit could be sent and the church age start. In what way do you claim that Jesus had to die a young death so that Mohammed could come, hundreds of years later ? How did Jesus' death make that possible ? Didn't Jesus death, in your eyes, create a false system of belief that fights with the truth ? 1Jo 2:1 My 3450 little children 5040, these things 5023 write I 1125 unto you 5213, that 3363 0 ye sin 264 not 3363. And 2532 if 1437 any man 5100 sin 264 , we have 2192 an advocate 3875 with 4314 the Father 3962, Jesus 2424 Christ 5547 the righteous 1342: The word 'advocate' here is the same Greek word. I have presented all five times this word appears in the new testament. Jesus and the Holy Spirit both are helpers to us, in a way that no prophet could be. re: the video. I don't care what any 'church fathers' said, especially people I have never heard of. Just because someone lived a long time ago, doesn't mean they were right. I care what the Bible says. And, if you read my posts, you'd know that I have no problem with the fact that the word 'trinity' is not in the Bible, or that this aspect of the nature of God is over emphasised by many. But, th
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Easy - the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit was not given until Acts 2, and that's when the church age started. The word translated 'comforter' means a helper or assistant. If you go down a few verses: Jhn 14:26 But 1161 the Comforter 3875, [which is] the Holy 40 Ghost 4151, whom 3739 the Father 3962 will send 3992 in 1722 my 3450 name 3686, he 1565 shall teach 1321 you 5209 all things 3956, and 2532 bring 5279 0 all things 3956 to 5279 0 your 5209 remembrance 5279 , whatsoever 3739 I have said 2036 unto you 5213. The same word is used here, so Jesus defines who the comforter is. Jhn 15:26 But 1161 when 3752 the Comforter 3875 is come 2064 , whom 3739 I 1473 will send 3992 unto you 5213 from 3844 the Father 3962, [even] the Spirit 4151 of truth 225, which 3739 proceedeth 1607 from 3844 the Father 3962, he 1565 shall testify 3140 of 4012 me 1700: Again. Jhn 16:7 Nevertheless 235 I 1473 tell 3004 you 5213 the truth 225; It is expedient 4851 for you 5213 that 2443 I 1473 go away 565 : for 1063 if 3362 0 I go 565 0 not 3362 away 565 , the Comforter 3875 will 2064 0 not 3756 come 2064 unto 4314 you 5209; but 1161 if 1437 I depart 4198 , I will send 3992 him 846 unto 4314 you 5209. This is the only time the word is used in a way that could be taken to mean anything other than the Holy Spirit. However, Jesus had to die so that the Holy Spirit could be sent and the church age start. In what way do you claim that Jesus had to die a young death so that Mohammed could come, hundreds of years later ? How did Jesus' death make that possible ? Didn't Jesus death, in your eyes, create a false system of belief that fights with the truth ? 1Jo 2:1 My 3450 little children 5040, these things 5023 write I 1125 unto you 5213, that 3363 0 ye sin 264 not 3363. And 2532 if 1437 any man 5100 sin 264 , we have 2192 an advocate 3875 with 4314 the Father 3962, Jesus 2424 Christ 5547 the righteous 1342: The word 'advocate' here is the same Greek word. I have presented all five times this word appears in the new testament. Jesus and the Holy Spirit both are helpers to us, in a way that no prophet could be. re: the video. I don't care what any 'church fathers' said, especially people I have never heard of. Just because someone lived a long time ago, doesn't mean they were right. I care what the Bible says. And, if you read my posts, you'd know that I have no problem with the fact that the word 'trinity' is not in the Bible, or that this aspect of the nature of God is over emphasised by many. But, th
Christian Graus wrote:
The Holy Spirit was not given un
I knew that what would you said. The holy spirit means Gabriel,am I right? rest I would reply later based on what you answer. p.s: I just quoted one verse, I have others to show you as well even I "agree" withy your assumption that it was Holy spirit. /A
Christian Graus wrote:
hn 16:7 Nevertheless 235 I 1473 tell 3004 you 5
what is this? some encoding problem or what?
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Christian Graus wrote:
The Holy Spirit was not given un
I knew that what would you said. The holy spirit means Gabriel,am I right? rest I would reply later based on what you answer. p.s: I just quoted one verse, I have others to show you as well even I "agree" withy your assumption that it was Holy spirit. /A
Christian Graus wrote:
hn 16:7 Nevertheless 235 I 1473 tell 3004 you 5
what is this? some encoding problem or what?
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
The holy spirit means Gabriel,am I right?
No.
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
rest I would reply later based on what you answer.
OK
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
I have others to show you as well even I "agree" withy your assumption that it was Holy spirit.
OK, please show me a verse where you agree that Jesus actually says that there would be another after Him. I assume you're looking for verses that the Christians forgot to change, right ?
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
what is this? some encoding problem or what?
Strongs numbers, used to look up where the same greek word appears in many places, or to look up definitions of the Greek.
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
The holy spirit means Gabriel,am I right?
No.
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
rest I would reply later based on what you answer.
OK
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
I have others to show you as well even I "agree" withy your assumption that it was Holy spirit.
OK, please show me a verse where you agree that Jesus actually says that there would be another after Him. I assume you're looking for verses that the Christians forgot to change, right ?
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
what is this? some encoding problem or what?
Strongs numbers, used to look up where the same greek word appears in many places, or to look up definitions of the Greek.
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
Christian Graus wrote:
No.
then who is he?
Christian Graus wrote:
OK, please show me a verse where y
Answer above.
Christian Graus wrote:
Strongs numbers, used to look up where the same greek word appears in many places, or to look up definitions of the Greek.
I don't know this art so next time if you quote then either use biblegateway.com or some english text
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
The holy spirit means Gabriel,am I right?
No.
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
rest I would reply later based on what you answer.
OK
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
I have others to show you as well even I "agree" withy your assumption that it was Holy spirit.
OK, please show me a verse where you agree that Jesus actually says that there would be another after Him. I assume you're looking for verses that the Christians forgot to change, right ?
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
what is this? some encoding problem or what?
Strongs numbers, used to look up where the same greek word appears in many places, or to look up definitions of the Greek.
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
knock knock!
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Christian Graus wrote:
No.
then who is he?
Christian Graus wrote:
OK, please show me a verse where y
Answer above.
Christian Graus wrote:
Strongs numbers, used to look up where the same greek word appears in many places, or to look up definitions of the Greek.
I don't know this art so next time if you quote then either use biblegateway.com or some english text
You can just ignore the numbers, they were only there b/c I was looking up greek meanings. The english text between was the same.
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
then who is he?
He's Gabriel. He's only mentioned a couple of times, what does it matter who he is ? Jesus was with the father from the beginning, that is true, I've heard people argue that Gabriel is Jesus. I don't think the Bible explicitly says, because I don't think it's important.
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
Answer above.
I will look for it, I have been busy for a few days, so I lost touch with these threads.
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
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knock knock!
Sorry, I spent yesterday travelling and the day before packing. When you said 'answered above' - where ? In that video ? I don't see any posts on this thread where you provide any verse which you agree says that Jesus claimed that there would be a prophet to come after Him.
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
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knock knock!
*grin* knock knock
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
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*grin* knock knock
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
i have not forgot. I cant use *other* things at office easily and at home, we r having power outage issues for last 3 weeks so m avoiding to turn my router on. Hopefully i get back to you by night(pakisan time)
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i have not forgot. I cant use *other* things at office easily and at home, we r having power outage issues for last 3 weeks so m avoiding to turn my router on. Hopefully i get back to you by night(pakisan time)
OK - it's not an issue, I realise you have a life in the real world, I wasn't suggesting you were hiding from me or anything. When you're ready.....
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.