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    Wags
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    Why is it "Team GB" rather than the Great British Team (or the Olympic Team of Great Britain)? (I can't remember what it was in previous Olympics.) I have Googled it and looked on the official site but haven't found anything that explains it.:confused: Perhaps it's just a marketing thing (or is it just glossing over the fact that the team is actually the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland - not Great Britain). (Okay it seem to be something to do with the latter: http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2008/08/team-gb-what-of-northern-ireland.html[^]

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      Why is it "Team GB" rather than the Great British Team (or the Olympic Team of Great Britain)? (I can't remember what it was in previous Olympics.) I have Googled it and looked on the official site but haven't found anything that explains it.:confused: Perhaps it's just a marketing thing (or is it just glossing over the fact that the team is actually the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland - not Great Britain). (Okay it seem to be something to do with the latter: http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2008/08/team-gb-what-of-northern-ireland.html[^]

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      "United Kingdom" is an abbreviation of "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" therefore UK and GB would be synonymous.

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        Why is it "Team GB" rather than the Great British Team (or the Olympic Team of Great Britain)? (I can't remember what it was in previous Olympics.) I have Googled it and looked on the official site but haven't found anything that explains it.:confused: Perhaps it's just a marketing thing (or is it just glossing over the fact that the team is actually the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland - not Great Britain). (Okay it seem to be something to do with the latter: http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2008/08/team-gb-what-of-northern-ireland.html[^]

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        True, as I understand it Great Britain does not include the land mass of Ireland. But then, on a purely pedantic basis, Britain does not include Scotland either as they were inhabited by Geodelic Celts, not Brythonic Celts (like England, Walesm and Cornwall). And it is from the word Brythonic that of course the word British is derived. (The Bretons too are British by the way, their name for their land is Breizh, and speak, natively, a language so close to Welsh that they can converse openly).

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          "United Kingdom" is an abbreviation of "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" therefore UK and GB would be synonymous.

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          J4amieC wrote:

          therefore UK and GB would be synonymous

          that would be incorrect. the UK is made-up of two nations: Great Britain (GB) and Northern Ireland. So Team UK or The British Olympic Team would be correct, while Team GB would *not* be correct since it refers to only part of the UK.

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            True, as I understand it Great Britain does not include the land mass of Ireland. But then, on a purely pedantic basis, Britain does not include Scotland either as they were inhabited by Geodelic Celts, not Brythonic Celts (like England, Walesm and Cornwall). And it is from the word Brythonic that of course the word British is derived. (The Bretons too are British by the way, their name for their land is Breizh, and speak, natively, a language so close to Welsh that they can converse openly).

            Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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            Breton is actually closer to Cornish than Welsh but they are all closely-related - when Cornish was more widely spoken the fishermen from Cornwall and Brittany used to serve on each other's boats and could converse freely. It was only after British-French animosity got too great that they stopped interacting so freely, and the languages then drifted further apart.

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              Why is it "Team GB" rather than the Great British Team (or the Olympic Team of Great Britain)? (I can't remember what it was in previous Olympics.) I have Googled it and looked on the official site but haven't found anything that explains it.:confused: Perhaps it's just a marketing thing (or is it just glossing over the fact that the team is actually the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland - not Great Britain). (Okay it seem to be something to do with the latter: http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2008/08/team-gb-what-of-northern-ireland.html[^]

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              Pete OHanlon
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              Well, it seems the Australians[^] do. Shame. ;P If you can't get the content in your country, it's a group of Australians getting riled that we're ahead of them. Never mind that Russia, China and the USA are ahead of them as well they're only upset that we are 3rd.

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                Why is it "Team GB" rather than the Great British Team (or the Olympic Team of Great Britain)? (I can't remember what it was in previous Olympics.) I have Googled it and looked on the official site but haven't found anything that explains it.:confused: Perhaps it's just a marketing thing (or is it just glossing over the fact that the team is actually the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland - not Great Britain). (Okay it seem to be something to do with the latter: http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2008/08/team-gb-what-of-northern-ireland.html[^]

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                PIEBALDconsult
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                Perhaps, but not before a game.

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                  Well, it seems the Australians[^] do. Shame. ;P If you can't get the content in your country, it's a group of Australians getting riled that we're ahead of them. Never mind that Russia, China and the USA are ahead of them as well they're only upset that we are 3rd.

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                  Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                  USA are ahead of them

                  Sure, but that Australian football team sure made a lot three point field goals in their loss to the USA team tonight, err this morning ( well it was Wed night in Beijing but 5 am Pacific time) :-D

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                    Why is it "Team GB" rather than the Great British Team (or the Olympic Team of Great Britain)? (I can't remember what it was in previous Olympics.) I have Googled it and looked on the official site but haven't found anything that explains it.:confused: Perhaps it's just a marketing thing (or is it just glossing over the fact that the team is actually the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland - not Great Britain). (Okay it seem to be something to do with the latter: http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2008/08/team-gb-what-of-northern-ireland.html[^]

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                    Ha! I posted this to another forum a couple of days ago. Thought about posting it here. :) I find it irritating and slightly sinister but I can't quite put my finger on why.

                    Kevin

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                      Ha! I posted this to another forum a couple of days ago. Thought about posting it here. :) I find it irritating and slightly sinister but I can't quite put my finger on why.

                      Kevin

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                      It's for our American cousins. The full name is Team GB Mary Poppins and the GB stands for Gor Blimey. Now imagine Dick Van Dyke doing his worst Mockney accent and it all makes sense.

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                        Breton is actually closer to Cornish than Welsh but they are all closely-related - when Cornish was more widely spoken the fishermen from Cornwall and Brittany used to serve on each other's boats and could converse freely. It was only after British-French animosity got too great that they stopped interacting so freely, and the languages then drifted further apart.

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                        ...and all this took place on an island slightly smaller than Oregon. :rolleyes: ;P

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                          True, as I understand it Great Britain does not include the land mass of Ireland. But then, on a purely pedantic basis, Britain does not include Scotland either as they were inhabited by Geodelic Celts, not Brythonic Celts (like England, Walesm and Cornwall). And it is from the word Brythonic that of course the word British is derived. (The Bretons too are British by the way, their name for their land is Breizh, and speak, natively, a language so close to Welsh that they can converse openly).

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                          fat_boy wrote:

                          The Bretons too are British by the way, their name for their land is Breizh, and speak, natively, a language so close to Welsh that they can converse openly

                          Presumably to tell each other how pretty the Sheep are.

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                            ...and all this took place on an island slightly smaller than Oregon. :rolleyes: ;P

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                            hairy_hats
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                            Sorry, I don't get your point.

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                              Sorry, I don't get your point.

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                              Steve_Harris wrote:

                              Sorry, I don't get your point.

                              Nothing too provocative. Just putting it into perspective. Due to travel and communications innovations the world has become very small. Vastly different languages or even vastly different dialects would not likely develop today in such a small area.

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                                J4amieC wrote:

                                therefore UK and GB would be synonymous

                                that would be incorrect. the UK is made-up of two nations: Great Britain (GB) and Northern Ireland. So Team UK or The British Olympic Team would be correct, while Team GB would *not* be correct since it refers to only part of the UK.

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                                ahmed zahmed wrote:

                                the UK is made-up of two nations: Great Britain (GB) and Northern Ireland.

                                Wrong. It's made up of 4 (or 3, depending on whether you consider England and Wales separate or not).

                                Cheers, Vıkram.


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