Office 2007 [modified]
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Christian Graus wrote:
I hate that people send me docx files now, I have to unzip them and read the plain text.
Have you tried the Office 2007 Compatibility Pack[^]? Regards, --Perspx
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thanks - I may try that.
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
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Bassam Saoud wrote:
Mark Wallace wrote: illegal version of Office 2003 Thats not cool.
It certainly isn't, given that the license for Office 2007, which I paid for but will never use, is more expensive! The most annoying thing about this is that I spend an inordinate amount of time explaining to Java (Swing, Lord 'elp us!) programmers that they have to create GUIs that are built so that people will immediately know how to use them, because they follow patterns that people are familiar with (i.e. MS Office, pre 2007), and then Office 2007 breaks every bluddy rule that I'm trying to put across! If anyone but MS had released products with the dire Office 2007 interface, it would have been completely ignored. Because it's MS, a lot of people are stuck with it. Just watch how many people start using OpenOffice, just because it's got an interface they're familiar with.
In my opinion, Office 2007 interface is much more accesible than any other office suite applications. But anyways cant you change theme back to classic or something?
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I hate the ribbon bar. I hate the schmaltzy semi-background ([EDIT] that mysteriously disappears in the silver theme). I hate the gay light blue theme. I hate it. [EDIT] I found out how to change the gay blue theme to the less gay (but gay nonetheless) black theme. [EDIT] They just revirginized my system here at work, and they gave me Orifice 2007. I hate it.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001modified on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:18 PM
I actually like Office 2007. I hated the menus in the previous versions, because the menu hierarchy was so friggin deep, it would take an entire morning just to find what I wanted.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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In my opinion, Office 2007 interface is much more accesible than any other office suite applications. But anyways cant you change theme back to classic or something?
Bassam Saoud wrote:
In my opinion, Office 2007 interface is much more accesible than any other office suite applications.
Yes, and there are people who think that Eclipse is more accessible than VS.
Bassam Saoud wrote:
But anyways cant you change theme back to classic or something?
No, you can't. You're stuck with that damned screen-consuming ribbon, that is not user-configurable, and that contains only what the "geniuses" who invented it think it should contain. I take it you're relatively new to office applications, and that years of experience of using a particular way of doing things (and of using particular toolbar configurations!) aren't relevant to you. Had I wanted to have to re-learn how to create and modify documents, I could have picked up the stupidest of open-source office apps, and learned their way of doing things.
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Bassam Saoud wrote:
In my opinion, Office 2007 interface is much more accesible than any other office suite applications.
Yes, and there are people who think that Eclipse is more accessible than VS.
Bassam Saoud wrote:
But anyways cant you change theme back to classic or something?
No, you can't. You're stuck with that damned screen-consuming ribbon, that is not user-configurable, and that contains only what the "geniuses" who invented it think it should contain. I take it you're relatively new to office applications, and that years of experience of using a particular way of doing things (and of using particular toolbar configurations!) aren't relevant to you. Had I wanted to have to re-learn how to create and modify documents, I could have picked up the stupidest of open-source office apps, and learned their way of doing things.
Okay you convinced me, just take it easy okay !
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In my opinion, Office 2007 interface is much more accesible than any other office suite applications. But anyways cant you change theme back to classic or something?
There is a 3rd party patch to do so. It's been linked to on CP before. Alternately I'm sure you could find it via google.
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Okay you convinced me, just take it easy okay !
Bassam Saoud wrote:
Okay you convinced me, just take it easy okay !
Grrrrrrrr! Rarrrrrrr! Snarfle!!! Anyone for tennis? Let's play it with mop-buckets instead of racquets, and set the net at 1400 feet, with a dip on the left-hand side of 930 feet (and paint flowers and butterflies on the bit in the middle). I'm sure everyone will love it that way. Harrier pilots will have a chance of winning Wimbledon. I never thought I would see the day that MS would become as user-unfriendly as adobe. COME BACK, BILL!!! ALL IS FORGOTTEN!!!
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I hate the ribbon bar. I hate the schmaltzy semi-background ([EDIT] that mysteriously disappears in the silver theme). I hate the gay light blue theme. I hate it. [EDIT] I found out how to change the gay blue theme to the less gay (but gay nonetheless) black theme. [EDIT] They just revirginized my system here at work, and they gave me Orifice 2007. I hate it.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001modified on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:18 PM
I'm the opposite. I actually love it. I hated personalized menus and always used to find the menus unfriendly. Now I see everything.
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Bassam Saoud wrote:
Okay you convinced me, just take it easy okay !
Grrrrrrrr! Rarrrrrrr! Snarfle!!! Anyone for tennis? Let's play it with mop-buckets instead of racquets, and set the net at 1400 feet, with a dip on the left-hand side of 930 feet (and paint flowers and butterflies on the bit in the middle). I'm sure everyone will love it that way. Harrier pilots will have a chance of winning Wimbledon. I never thought I would see the day that MS would become as user-unfriendly as adobe. COME BACK, BILL!!! ALL IS FORGOTTEN!!!
Mark Wallace wrote:
COME BACK, BILL!!! ALL IS FORGOTTEN!!!
:laugh: :laugh:
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I hate the ribbon bar. I hate the schmaltzy semi-background ([EDIT] that mysteriously disappears in the silver theme). I hate the gay light blue theme. I hate it. [EDIT] I found out how to change the gay blue theme to the less gay (but gay nonetheless) black theme. [EDIT] They just revirginized my system here at work, and they gave me Orifice 2007. I hate it.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001modified on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:18 PM
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I hate the ribbon bar. I hate the schmaltzy semi-background ([EDIT] that mysteriously disappears in the silver theme). I hate the gay light blue theme. I hate it. [EDIT] I found out how to change the gay blue theme to the less gay (but gay nonetheless) black theme. [EDIT] They just revirginized my system here at work, and they gave me Orifice 2007. I hate it.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001modified on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:18 PM
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I hate it.
Office 2007 takes too long to load. I tried it but very fast switched back to office 2002. jhaga
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I hate the ribbon bar.
There's a product out there (sorry, I can't remember the link, nor even where I saved the link) that's either free or cheap, that gives you all your familiar Office 2000 menus for Office 2007. :) Marc
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I hate the ribbon bar. I hate the schmaltzy semi-background ([EDIT] that mysteriously disappears in the silver theme). I hate the gay light blue theme. I hate it. [EDIT] I found out how to change the gay blue theme to the less gay (but gay nonetheless) black theme. [EDIT] They just revirginized my system here at work, and they gave me Orifice 2007. I hate it.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001modified on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:18 PM
I hated the ribbon bar from day one. Still, I though my wife and kids might like it so I talked it up. My youngest daughter (13)--who does a lot of writing--was very excited. A day later, she meekly asked if I could put the "old" word back on. Most surprising is that she made several very specific and valid criticisms. My wife added several of her own. (The common criticism from all of us is why do you use up all that room for stuff I'll never use?) Funny thing is I left Excel 2007 on one system since I figured it was so rarely used, the ribbon might be helpful. One day my wife tried using it and called me up in frustration for help. I forgot it was 2007 and started walking her through the steps as if it were 2003. There was a long silence and she asked what I was talking about. (That was almost as bad as when my oldest daughter called and forgot to say she was using Works and was even more confused.) That aside, what utterly baffles me about Office 2007 is why they didn't have a simple button to re-skin the applications to look like Office 2003. You can get very close with enough patience, but not quite there. IE7 is the same way. Oh and then there's the lack of a "Save My Settings" wizard. So once I got Word on one computer more or less looking like Word 2003, I couldn't share that with the other computer. (And when that computer went south--bug between nForce4 and SATA--I would have been SOL. Fortunately, I was using Word 2003 and save and back up my settings and was back in business in a flash. "Save my settings" should be a feature on all software.)
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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I really irks me to have to pay for a feature that Microsoft should have implemented. (I'll wager they didn't because they knew most users would have switched to "classic" mode immediately.)
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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I hate the ribbon bar. I hate the schmaltzy semi-background ([EDIT] that mysteriously disappears in the silver theme). I hate the gay light blue theme. I hate it. [EDIT] I found out how to change the gay blue theme to the less gay (but gay nonetheless) black theme. [EDIT] They just revirginized my system here at work, and they gave me Orifice 2007. I hate it.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001modified on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:18 PM
Ditto. Had to change to it at work because now all the timesheets and things are in 2007 format and cannot easily be converted to 2003. As well as it taking ages to find anything on the ribbon thing there are tons of other things that irritate me.... - Excel 2007 very slow - change a few values and wait 5 seconds before calculated fields get recalculated - never used to be like that and my old commodore 64 updated faster - Cut + Paste not working as expected in Excel 2007 - cutting and pasting a formula from one cell to another quietly causes the formulas in a load of other unrelated cells to change, incorrectly (so I end up copy+pasting then deleting the values from the original cells instead) - Word 2007 saying that documents are locked for editing by other users, sometimes myself, when they are not. After deleting the temporary lock file thing, then saying that the file is in use by "someone" Also I'm not keen on the way MS introduce this visual styles feature in Windows XP, take advantage of it in Office 2003, then starting in Office 2007 decide to completely ignore the users preferences and use a custom theme that isn't configurable in the same way. Fortunately other than Outlook for mail, Excel for timesheets and Word for viewing the odd document I don't need to use it all that much.
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I hate the ribbon bar. I hate the schmaltzy semi-background ([EDIT] that mysteriously disappears in the silver theme). I hate the gay light blue theme. I hate it. [EDIT] I found out how to change the gay blue theme to the less gay (but gay nonetheless) black theme. [EDIT] They just revirginized my system here at work, and they gave me Orifice 2007. I hate it.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001modified on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:18 PM
So I take you don't hate round glowing thingy in the top left corner?
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I hate the ribbon bar. I hate the schmaltzy semi-background ([EDIT] that mysteriously disappears in the silver theme). I hate the gay light blue theme. I hate it. [EDIT] I found out how to change the gay blue theme to the less gay (but gay nonetheless) black theme. [EDIT] They just revirginized my system here at work, and they gave me Orifice 2007. I hate it.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001modified on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:18 PM
C'mon John, it could be worse. They could bring back Clippy :shudder:. I hate it too; you can't find a damn thing in it. They managed to completely hide the paragraph formatting dialog.
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I hate the ribbon bar. I hate the schmaltzy semi-background ([EDIT] that mysteriously disappears in the silver theme). I hate the gay light blue theme. I hate it. [EDIT] I found out how to change the gay blue theme to the less gay (but gay nonetheless) black theme. [EDIT] They just revirginized my system here at work, and they gave me Orifice 2007. I hate it.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001modified on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:18 PM
I hate the ribbon bar too - mainly because of the screen space it takes up. Ctrl+F1 hides/unhides it which makes it semi-bearable.
Dave
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I hate the ribbon bar. I hate the schmaltzy semi-background ([EDIT] that mysteriously disappears in the silver theme). I hate the gay light blue theme. I hate it. [EDIT] I found out how to change the gay blue theme to the less gay (but gay nonetheless) black theme. [EDIT] They just revirginized my system here at work, and they gave me Orifice 2007. I hate it.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001modified on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:18 PM
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I hate the ribbon bar
I minimize it to get back most of the space they stole, and so I don't have to look at it. Now if they only had a "lose the jewel" setting...
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Haven't tried it yet (they're talking about moving to it at work, but no clear timeline), although i do use another app that apes the ribbon bar thing. Used the app for about a week before it dawned on me: i never use the menu bar or toolbars in programs which provide decent context menus. It's been over half a year now, and i still don't think i've ever touched the bar in that program. Sadly, Office context menus suck. Any chance they improved significantly in 2007?
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Shog9 wrote:
Any chance they improved significantly in 2007?
What do you think? X|
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