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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    I hate the ribbon bar. I hate the schmaltzy semi-background ([EDIT] that mysteriously disappears in the silver theme). I hate the gay light blue theme. I hate it. [EDIT] I found out how to change the gay blue theme to the less gay (but gay nonetheless) black theme. [EDIT] They just revirginized my system here at work, and they gave me Orifice 2007. I hate it.

    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

    modified on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:18 PM

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    So I take you don't hate round glowing thingy in the top left corner?

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    • realJSOPR realJSOP

      I hate the ribbon bar. I hate the schmaltzy semi-background ([EDIT] that mysteriously disappears in the silver theme). I hate the gay light blue theme. I hate it. [EDIT] I found out how to change the gay blue theme to the less gay (but gay nonetheless) black theme. [EDIT] They just revirginized my system here at work, and they gave me Orifice 2007. I hate it.

      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

      modified on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:18 PM

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      Gary R Wheeler
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      C'mon John, it could be worse. They could bring back Clippy :shudder:. I hate it too; you can't find a damn thing in it. They managed to completely hide the paragraph formatting dialog.

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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        I hate the ribbon bar. I hate the schmaltzy semi-background ([EDIT] that mysteriously disappears in the silver theme). I hate the gay light blue theme. I hate it. [EDIT] I found out how to change the gay blue theme to the less gay (but gay nonetheless) black theme. [EDIT] They just revirginized my system here at work, and they gave me Orifice 2007. I hate it.

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

        modified on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:18 PM

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        DaveyM69
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        I hate the ribbon bar too - mainly because of the screen space it takes up. Ctrl+F1 hides/unhides it which makes it semi-bearable.

        Dave
        BTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)
        Expect everything to be hard and then enjoy the things that come easy. (code-frog)

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          I hate the ribbon bar. I hate the schmaltzy semi-background ([EDIT] that mysteriously disappears in the silver theme). I hate the gay light blue theme. I hate it. [EDIT] I found out how to change the gay blue theme to the less gay (but gay nonetheless) black theme. [EDIT] They just revirginized my system here at work, and they gave me Orifice 2007. I hate it.

          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

          modified on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:18 PM

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          Rob Graham
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          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

          I hate the ribbon bar

          I minimize it to get back most of the space they stole, and so I don't have to look at it. Now if they only had a "lose the jewel" setting...

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          • S Shog9 0

            Haven't tried it yet (they're talking about moving to it at work, but no clear timeline), although i do use another app that apes the ribbon bar thing. Used the app for about a week before it dawned on me: i never use the menu bar or toolbars in programs which provide decent context menus. It's been over half a year now, and i still don't think i've ever touched the bar in that program. Sadly, Office context menus suck. Any chance they improved significantly in 2007?

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            Tom Delany
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            Shog9 wrote:

            Any chance they improved significantly in 2007?

            What do you think? X|

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            • M Mark_Wallace

              I bought a new machine, which had the full, registered, version of Office 2007 pro installed. I got so sick of it, even though I tried to get used to it for over a month, that I uninstalled it. I now have an illegal version of Office 2003 on that machine. Just let 'em try to sue me! I'll rip 'em to shreds!

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              Steve Echols
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              That's :cool:

              Mark Wallace wrote:

              I'll rip 'em to shreds!

              With a ribbon, I hope!


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              • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                I actually like Office 2007. I hated the menus in the previous versions, because the menu hierarchy was so friggin deep, it would take an entire morning just to find what I wanted.

                -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                Steve Echols
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                But at least with the previous versions you could find what you wanted right? In previous versions, you just had to dig deeper. In the current versions you have to dig multiple holes. I have a hard time knowing where the hell I am (mainly in the programs, but sometimes in the real world :))


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                • M Mark_Wallace

                  I bought a new machine, which had the full, registered, version of Office 2007 pro installed. I got so sick of it, even though I tried to get used to it for over a month, that I uninstalled it. I now have an illegal version of Office 2003 on that machine. Just let 'em try to sue me! I'll rip 'em to shreds!

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                  Mark Wallace wrote:

                  I bought a new machine, which had the full, registered, version of Office 2007 pro installed. [...] I now have an illegal version of Office 2003 on that machine.

                  AFAIK, there was a MS utility which allowed you to use the classic interface (menus) in Office 2007. Not free, but cheap I think.

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    I hate the ribbon bar. I hate the schmaltzy semi-background ([EDIT] that mysteriously disappears in the silver theme). I hate the gay light blue theme. I hate it. [EDIT] I found out how to change the gay blue theme to the less gay (but gay nonetheless) black theme. [EDIT] They just revirginized my system here at work, and they gave me Orifice 2007. I hate it.

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                    -----
                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

                    modified on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:18 PM

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                    blackjack2150
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                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    I hate the ribbon bar.

                    But you have to admit that at least the 'live preview' of changes is useful and maybe even cool.

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      I hate the ribbon bar. I hate the schmaltzy semi-background ([EDIT] that mysteriously disappears in the silver theme). I hate the gay light blue theme. I hate it. [EDIT] I found out how to change the gay blue theme to the less gay (but gay nonetheless) black theme. [EDIT] They just revirginized my system here at work, and they gave me Orifice 2007. I hate it.

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                      -----
                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

                      modified on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:18 PM

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                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                      [EDIT] They just revirginized my system here at work, and they gave me Orifice 2007. I hate it.

                      Maybe here's[^] a solution for you?

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                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                        I hate the ribbon bar. I hate the schmaltzy semi-background ([EDIT] that mysteriously disappears in the silver theme). I hate the gay light blue theme. I hate it. [EDIT] I found out how to change the gay blue theme to the less gay (but gay nonetheless) black theme. [EDIT] They just revirginized my system here at work, and they gave me Orifice 2007. I hate it.

                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                        -----
                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

                        modified on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:18 PM

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                        We just had Office 2007 foisted on us at the office. There's just so much to hate, I don't know where to begin. At least we're not being overworked anymore. No one can get anything useful done with the new Office...

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                        • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

                          But at least with the previous versions you could find what you wanted right? In previous versions, you just had to dig deeper. In the current versions you have to dig multiple holes. I have a hard time knowing where the hell I am (mainly in the programs, but sometimes in the real world :))


                          - S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!

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                          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                          Steve Echols wrote:

                          but sometimes in the real world

                          For that you need Google Maps! ;)

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                          • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                            I'm the opposite. I actually love it. I hated personalized menus and always used to find the menus unfriendly. Now I see everything.

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                            Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                            I'm the opposite. I actually love it. I hated personalized menus and always used to find the menus unfriendly. Now I see everything.

                            I don't like Office 2007 and I also did not like the personalized menu's ... this was the first thing I turned off after installing office! :)

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                            • J Joe Woodbury

                              I really irks me to have to pay for a feature that Microsoft should have implemented. (I'll wager they didn't because they knew most users would have switched to "classic" mode immediately.)

                              Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                              Ed Poore
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                              I don't care since I find Office 2007 more productive and more intuitive. Perhaps if I used Office more I wouldn't have made the change quite so easily but things are logically laid out and since I only do "basic" stuff then everything is where it should be. Plus there are some new features (new formulae in Excel for example) which are really really useful.


                              I doubt it. If it isn't intuitive then we need to fix it. - Chris Maunder

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                              • D DaveyM69

                                I hate the ribbon bar too - mainly because of the screen space it takes up. Ctrl+F1 hides/unhides it which makes it semi-bearable.

                                Dave
                                BTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)
                                Expect everything to be hard and then enjoy the things that come easy. (code-frog)

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                                Ed Poore
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                                Get a bigger monitor ;P


                                I doubt it. If it isn't intuitive then we need to fix it. - Chris Maunder

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                                • D Douglas Troy

                                  :doh: I'd tell you, but then I'd start to sound gay. :rolleyes:


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                                  Gary Wheeler
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                                  The fact that you know who he is, well...

                                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                                  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                    I actually like Office 2007. I hated the menus in the previous versions, because the menu hierarchy was so friggin deep, it would take an entire morning just to find what I wanted.

                                    -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                                    At least in earlier versions of Office, the functionality was still there. In Office 2007, the following functionality has been removed or rendered so difficult to find it's unavailable: - Paragraph formatting. I've spent dozens of clicks trying to find something that just incidentally leads to the paragraph formatting dialog. As it is, what pops up is missing half the tabs of the original. - Table join. Office 2007 'splits' single tables into two adjacent ones on its own for some reason. The command to join adjacent tables is missing. - Document properties. I have yet to find an installation of Office 2007 that displays the document properties panel correctly. - Update field codes. I use a number of templates, all of which use field codes for document properties in the headers and footers. Office 2003 would automatically update these values whenever you created a new document using the template. Office 2007 doesn't have the functionality at all.

                                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                                      Get a bigger monitor ;P


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                                      Gary Wheeler
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                                      They just resize the bloody ribbon so that it takes up even more space.

                                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                                      • R Rob Graham

                                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                        I hate the ribbon bar

                                        I minimize it to get back most of the space they stole, and so I don't have to look at it. Now if they only had a "lose the jewel" setting...

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                                        Gary Wheeler
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                                        Rob Graham wrote:

                                        if they only had a "lose the jewel" setting...

                                        They need to be kicked in them, actually.

                                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                                        • G Gary Wheeler

                                          At least in earlier versions of Office, the functionality was still there. In Office 2007, the following functionality has been removed or rendered so difficult to find it's unavailable: - Paragraph formatting. I've spent dozens of clicks trying to find something that just incidentally leads to the paragraph formatting dialog. As it is, what pops up is missing half the tabs of the original. - Table join. Office 2007 'splits' single tables into two adjacent ones on its own for some reason. The command to join adjacent tables is missing. - Document properties. I have yet to find an installation of Office 2007 that displays the document properties panel correctly. - Update field codes. I use a number of templates, all of which use field codes for document properties in the headers and footers. Office 2003 would automatically update these values whenever you created a new document using the template. Office 2007 doesn't have the functionality at all.

                                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                                          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                          I admit that I'm not an advanced user of Word. I use it to write simple documents, or edit existing documents. I mostly use Excel to manipulate tabular data, and build time report sheets (I don't trust Microsoft Project which this place uses. It has lost my hours before, so I keep them in my own database, and then sync with the project server when needed). Sure, I've found it hard to find some functions in Office 2007, but I've always had problems with that. It seems that the usability team in Office have ONLY catered to the Clip Art/Birthday Poster crowd, no matter what version.

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