Black and White and Man and Woman - US elections
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oilFactotum wrote:
Clearly you I don't know much about McCain.
Fixed your typo :laugh:
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
I said exactly what I meant.
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I said exactly what I meant.
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oilFactotum wrote:
I said exactly what I meant.
And I changed it to match the real world. :-D
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Clearly not. Just because you wish it were so does not make it so.
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Neither. He brings it up constantly. You are simply being dishonest with yourself.
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oilFactotum wrote:
He brings it up constantly
Since that's not the case, I must ask - do you think that being a war hero disqualifies him from the Presidency?
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
It is the case, but I'll answer your question anyway(as ridiculous as it is) - no.
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I am not sure it was about appeasing the base. I wouldn't have chosen her, but neither does it make me mad enough to stay home. I think he was trying to "play safe" by picking someone who will piss off the least.
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
neither does it make me mad enough to stay home.
I don't plan to stay home, but my vote will go elsewhere than to McCain. Bob Barr might do just fine, provided he has something rational to say on energy and health care.
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Rob Graham wrote:
I frankly don't give a damn what the next president's position on abortion is.
Hear hear! Some needs to tell the Republican party that the twentieth century wants its issues back. Anyone who votes for or against a candidate based on their position on abortion probably wears polyester leisure suits.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Evidently McCain is hiding some Polyester suits somewhere, since his VP choice brings nothing else to the table except decent looks and youth - neither of which are high on my list of presidential qualities).
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Wow!!...This going to be exciting race. Black and White - Obama and Biden Man and Woman - McCain and Palin Could be smart move by McCain by choosing lady as Vice President candidate. (move to sway Hillary supporters)
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I watched an episode of Dr. House some time ago when they were curing a black president candidate and House told him that he wouldn't win because the White House does not have its name for no reason. :laugh:
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Evidently McCain is hiding some Polyester suits somewhere, since his VP choice brings nothing else to the table except decent looks and youth - neither of which are high on my list of presidential qualities).
Rob Graham wrote:
Evidently McCain is hiding some Polyester suits somewhere
That's the problem with officers who don't retire until they've got 30 in. They have no idea how to wear civilian clothes. ;)
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Kant wrote:
Could be smart move by McCain by choosing lady as Vice President candidate. (move to sway Hillary supporters)
Nope. Stupidest thing he could have done, IMO. Palin is a committed right-to-life candidate (her main qualification to get picked). She represents a move to the right for McCain, at a time when he should have moved to the center. That choice will cost him the election, because the right wing base still won't show up at the polls for him, but Palin will put off independents , Hillary Democrats, and centrists. It will certainty cost McCain my vote, since it says the only issue he and the Republicans care about is abortion, and that at the expense of everything else. Obama is right, McCain only offers 4 more years of the Bush mindset. At this point I'm done with the GOP. Guess all that remains is the Libertarians...
Rob Graham wrote:
It will certainty cost McCain my vote
He may well have gained my vote though. I don't know Palin well but if she is a true conservative, I'll vote for her. BTW, libertarians suck.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Rob Graham wrote:
It will certainty cost McCain my vote
He may well have gained my vote though. I don't know Palin well but if she is a true conservative, I'll vote for her. BTW, libertarians suck.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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I watched an episode of Dr. House some time ago when they were curing a black president candidate and House told him that he wouldn't win because the White House does not have its name for no reason. :laugh:
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Clearly not. Just because you wish it were so does not make it so.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
BTW, libertarians suck.
Especially Thomas Jefferson ;)
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
ol' Tom never even heard of libertarians. ANd he certainly did not design a libertarian form of government. And, btw, libertairans are NOT constitutionalists.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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I am not sure it was about appeasing the base. I wouldn't have chosen her, but neither does it make me mad enough to stay home. I think he was trying to "play safe" by picking someone who will piss off the least.
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
I am not sure it was about appeasing the base.
Limbaugh and Beck have both been touting her. It was all about pleasing the base. Hope they're pleased as punch, because it will practically guarantee Obama the election.
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
neither does it make me mad enough to stay home.
I don't plan to stay home, but my vote will go elsewhere than to McCain. Bob Barr might do just fine, provided he has something rational to say on energy and health care.
Rob Graham wrote:
Bob Barr might do just fine
I'm certainly not that mad. :laugh: I don't have anything against Barr; for what it's worth I am not all that fond of McCain. I don't think that Obama will make a good President, so much so, that I plan to set aside the things I don't like about McCain or his VP choice. I am more of a pragmatist when it comes to politics.
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
Let's see 2 years as governor vs 3 years in the US Senate.
McCain's VP The Sandpoint-born Palin was a surprise pick for many because she has served as Alaska's governor for just two years. Before that, she was a Wasilla, Alaska, city councilor from 1992 to 1996 (Population 6,715). Graduated from the UI in 1987 with a degree in journalism. VS Obama Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA Undergraduate, 1981-1983 Columbia University B.A. Political Science with specialization in international relations Thesis topic: Soviet nuclear disarmament Illinois Senate 1996-2004 chairman, Health and Human Services Committee United States Senate 2004-present Member, Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman, Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on European Affairs Member, Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Member, Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Member, Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs Should I compare Obama's VP to McCain's VP?
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You guys can argue about it all day long. But to me the platform is far more important that experience. And up until Palin, Obama and Biden both have piss poor platforms, and McCain is a democrat that decided to be a Republican just in time to run on that ticket and essentially has no platform. Palin as the VP pick actually brings a conservative to the ticket. This may diswade a few swing votes, but I'm betting most of the right can now feel more enthusiastic about voting for the old goat.
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
I don't think McCain made the right choice either, but it has nothing to do with experience.
So, what does it have to do with (actually I largely agree, - there might be other inexperienced choices that would have been brilliant)? To me the significant issue is that it displays poor judgment or poor advice not rejected (same as poor judgment). It also suggests some discouraging things about the lengths McCain is willing to go to t appease his supposed "base".
Rob Graham wrote:
It also suggests some discouraging things about the lengths McCain is willing to go to t appease his supposed "base".
You mean like promising universal well fair and tax cuts all in the same speach?
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
I think he was trying to "play safe" by picking someone who will piss off the least.
it is just too bad republicans have such a god awful pool of candidates to choose from. maybe that is saying something...
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We had some great candidates to choose from. Somehow they got dumped in the primary fiasco. I still want an explaination for that too. There's not a Republican alive that actually wants McCain.
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
I am not sure it was about appeasing the base.
Limbaugh and Beck have both been touting her. It was all about pleasing the base. Hope they're pleased as punch, because it will practically guarantee Obama the election.
Rob Graham wrote:
Hope they're pleased as punch, because it will practically guarantee Obama the election.
I disagree. I think he just won the election. Before Palin came into the picture, I would have called either a 50/50 shot. I think Palin will pull in some swings, and will certainly give the right more incentive to get off the couch on election day than we had before.
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