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    What I already knew...if you're riding a bicycle wearing dark (as in black) clothing at night (or in this case before sunrise) and crossing the street in traffic, people in cars can't see you! What he learnteded today? The PAIN of lying face down in the street as traffic was routed around him and his mangled bike. Oh, he wasn't moving when when I drove by, hope he's ok. Oh, in Florida it may be HIS fault... <a href="http://www.brandonaccidentlawyer.com/FAQ-bicycle-pedestrian-accident-attorney.html">Florida Bicycle Law</a> Dark out: Yes Lights: No (none I could see at least) Reflective vest: No Obeying Traffic laws: ????

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      What I already knew...if you're riding a bicycle wearing dark (as in black) clothing at night (or in this case before sunrise) and crossing the street in traffic, people in cars can't see you! What he learnteded today? The PAIN of lying face down in the street as traffic was routed around him and his mangled bike. Oh, he wasn't moving when when I drove by, hope he's ok. Oh, in Florida it may be HIS fault... <a href="http://www.brandonaccidentlawyer.com/FAQ-bicycle-pedestrian-accident-attorney.html">Florida Bicycle Law</a> Dark out: Yes Lights: No (none I could see at least) Reflective vest: No Obeying Traffic laws: ????

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      Simon Capewell
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      Was he also wearing an iPod (or similar) and not sporting any lights? That seems a common occurrence in the UK.

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        Was he also wearing an iPod (or similar) and not sporting any lights? That seems a common occurrence in the UK.

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        Nagy Vilmos
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        Simon Capewell wrote:

        wearing an iPod (or similar) and not sporting any lights

        But it's still the driver's 'fault'


        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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          Simon Capewell wrote:

          wearing an iPod (or similar) and not sporting any lights

          But it's still the driver's 'fault'


          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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          Simon Capewell
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          I usually hurl abuse at those kind of cyclists as I glide past with 2 rear lights and covered in reflective gear. In their defence, you can usually hear them coming a mile off because they never oil their chains.

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            Simon Capewell wrote:

            wearing an iPod (or similar) and not sporting any lights

            But it's still the driver's 'fault'


            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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            Tom Deketelaere
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            It's always the drivers 'fault' even if he had ran a red light it's still the car's fault. (well at least here it is) I hate that because as a car driver you can end up paying the rest of your life for something you couldn't avoid, driving used to be fun now it's just stress

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              Was he also wearing an iPod (or similar) and not sporting any lights? That seems a common occurrence in the UK.

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              Simon P Stevens
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              Simon Capewell wrote:

              not sporting any lights? That seems a common occurrence in the UK.

              What I find just as bad though are cyclists who have those LED lights and stick them on 'insane rave' flashing mode. I find them very distracting. I used to think it was illegal to have flashing lights like this in the UK, but I see so many people with them I'm not sure any more. Perhaps somebody knows the answer.

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                Simon Capewell wrote:

                not sporting any lights? That seems a common occurrence in the UK.

                What I find just as bad though are cyclists who have those LED lights and stick them on 'insane rave' flashing mode. I find them very distracting. I used to think it was illegal to have flashing lights like this in the UK, but I see so many people with them I'm not sure any more. Perhaps somebody knows the answer.

                Simon

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                Simon Capewell
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                Haha, that's me, sort of. It's illegal to have a flashing light attached to your bicycle. It's also illegal to use only LED lights, the law states that lights must be filament based, i.e. not acetylene. I use one rear flashing mounted on the seat pillar and a constant down near the mudguard. The front is a constant LED cluster. Occasionally I use it half flashing when I think motorists are in an inconsiderate mood. As a motorist I actually like flashing lights on bicycles because bike lights are a much lower intensity than car lights and tend not to stand out. It's especially useful at dusk. What really bugs me is motorists sitting on the foot brake and blinding me with their brake lights whilst waiting at traffic lights.

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                  Haha, that's me, sort of. It's illegal to have a flashing light attached to your bicycle. It's also illegal to use only LED lights, the law states that lights must be filament based, i.e. not acetylene. I use one rear flashing mounted on the seat pillar and a constant down near the mudguard. The front is a constant LED cluster. Occasionally I use it half flashing when I think motorists are in an inconsiderate mood. As a motorist I actually like flashing lights on bicycles because bike lights are a much lower intensity than car lights and tend not to stand out. It's especially useful at dusk. What really bugs me is motorists sitting on the foot brake and blinding me with their brake lights whilst waiting at traffic lights.

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                  Simon Capewell wrote:

                  What really bugs me is motorists sitting on the foot brake and blinding me with their brake lights whilst waiting at traffic lights.

                  Haha, that's me. (sometimes). Well, we've established that we clearly annoy each other. If we ever meet, I'll do my best not to point my brake lights at your eyes if you promise not to flash at me :laugh:

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                    Simon Capewell wrote:

                    What really bugs me is motorists sitting on the foot brake and blinding me with their brake lights whilst waiting at traffic lights.

                    Haha, that's me. (sometimes). Well, we've established that we clearly annoy each other. If we ever meet, I'll do my best not to point my brake lights at your eyes if you promise not to flash at me :laugh:

                    Simon

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                    :laugh: One thing I don't get about the whole, foot on brake pedal for 3 minutes whilst waiting at lights is that it requires effort. Why do people do it so consistently? Why don't they pull on the handbrake and have a rest :confused:

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                      :laugh: One thing I don't get about the whole, foot on brake pedal for 3 minutes whilst waiting at lights is that it requires effort. Why do people do it so consistently? Why don't they pull on the handbrake and have a rest :confused:

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                      If I think about it, I don't get it either. I suppose my foot is just comfortable sometimes.

                      Simon

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                        If I think about it, I don't get it either. I suppose my foot is just comfortable sometimes.

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                        Simon Capewell
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                        I must have a bad car. Or a weird foot.

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                          Was he also wearing an iPod (or similar) and not sporting any lights? That seems a common occurrence in the UK.

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                          Zhat
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                          No iPod that I saw, bike had no lights. The part of town he was in has lots of people who ride bikes, mostly 'kids' who want to take life chances...can't say for sure as it was already over with as to how he got hit, but I see them daily...

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                            Haha, that's me, sort of. It's illegal to have a flashing light attached to your bicycle. It's also illegal to use only LED lights, the law states that lights must be filament based, i.e. not acetylene. I use one rear flashing mounted on the seat pillar and a constant down near the mudguard. The front is a constant LED cluster. Occasionally I use it half flashing when I think motorists are in an inconsiderate mood. As a motorist I actually like flashing lights on bicycles because bike lights are a much lower intensity than car lights and tend not to stand out. It's especially useful at dusk. What really bugs me is motorists sitting on the foot brake and blinding me with their brake lights whilst waiting at traffic lights.

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                            Simon Capewell wrote:

                            It's illegal to have a flashing light attached to your bicycle. It's also illegal to use only LED lights, the law states that lights must be filament based, i.e. not acetylene.

                            Does it say that in the Highway Code? I use only an LED light on the handlebars which is set to flashing if there's daylight and steady at night. And a red flashing light slightly above the rear dérailleur. [Edit] Just check the Highway Code and this is what it says: 60) At night your cycle MUST have white front and red rear lights lit. It MUST also be fitted with a red rear reflector (and amber pedal reflectors, if manufactured after 1/10/85). White front reflectors and spoke reflectors will also help you to be seen. Flashing lights are permitted but it is recommended that cyclists who are riding in areas without street lighting use a steady front lamp. [/Edit]


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                              Simon Capewell wrote:

                              wearing an iPod (or similar) and not sporting any lights

                              But it's still the driver's 'fault'


                              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                              Zhat
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                              Not necessarily... Florida Bicycle Law

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                                It's always the drivers 'fault' even if he had ran a red light it's still the car's fault. (well at least here it is) I hate that because as a car driver you can end up paying the rest of your life for something you couldn't avoid, driving used to be fun now it's just stress

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                                Not necessarily in Florida... <a href="http://www.brandonaccidentlawyer.com/FAQ-bicycle-pedestrian-accident-attorney.html">Florida Bicycle Law</a>

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                                  Simon Capewell wrote:

                                  not sporting any lights? That seems a common occurrence in the UK.

                                  What I find just as bad though are cyclists who have those LED lights and stick them on 'insane rave' flashing mode. I find them very distracting. I used to think it was illegal to have flashing lights like this in the UK, but I see so many people with them I'm not sure any more. Perhaps somebody knows the answer.

                                  Simon

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                                  I prefer them, I see a light like that in the corner of my eye and know it is a slow moving road user.

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                                    What I already knew...if you're riding a bicycle wearing dark (as in black) clothing at night (or in this case before sunrise) and crossing the street in traffic, people in cars can't see you! What he learnteded today? The PAIN of lying face down in the street as traffic was routed around him and his mangled bike. Oh, he wasn't moving when when I drove by, hope he's ok. Oh, in Florida it may be HIS fault... <a href="http://www.brandonaccidentlawyer.com/FAQ-bicycle-pedestrian-accident-attorney.html">Florida Bicycle Law</a> Dark out: Yes Lights: No (none I could see at least) Reflective vest: No Obeying Traffic laws: ????

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                                    Throw your bike out and get your self a big-honk'n SUV then you can wear anything you want.

                                    MrPlankton

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                                      Throw your bike out and get your self a big-honk'n SUV then you can wear anything you want.

                                      MrPlankton

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                                      Dan Neely
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                                      ... like cyclist parts. :laugh:

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                                        Throw your bike out and get your self a big-honk'n SUV then you can wear anything you want.

                                        MrPlankton

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                                        Zhat
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                                        Hehehe...well, I'd agree except these 'kids' are of the "out-of'work" "welfare" type (read low income) and have nothing better to do or have nothing better to travel around on...

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                                          Throw your bike out and get your self a big-honk'n SUV then you can wear anything you want.

                                          MrPlankton

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                                          El Corazon
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                                          MrPlankton wrote:

                                          you can wear anything you want.

                                          well... not anything.... there was a recent incident (several months back) about a nudist driving.... deciding whether or not an automobile is an extension of your house (legal to be nude) or an extension of the public roads on which it drives.... :) I never did find out what happened.

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